I.O. Inc

manfoozle@yahoo · 01-08-2008, 11:39 AM

Has any one ever had problems W/ I.O. Inc?

ArkansasHunter · 01-08-2008, 11:56 AM

I have'nt who are they ?

musicmaniac · 01-08-2008, 11:59 AM

I have never dealt with or heard of them. Here is a link to their website I believe. Curio and Relic Firearms - Mausers, M38s, M44s, M9130s, AK Rifles, Nagant RevolversI did a search for that company name and came up with a few things, but am assuming you mean these guys.

toolman · 01-08-2008, 12:18 PM

I've bought two guns from them but always in person. I found them to be great folks and very helpful. The first time I walked in to buy an M-44, the vice-pres. Oli, took me on a tour of the warehouse. At that time, they had about 5-6 pallets of U.S.-marked No.4 Mk.1 Enfields that had just arrived, they were turning PPsh 41 parts kits into complete semi-auto weapons, and there were more guns and accessories that I'd ever seen in one place. The next time, I went in to buy my M-39 and the pres. of the co., Uri had me come back and sit in his office while the guys pulled my gun. When the gun came out, he looked at it and decided it didn't meet the "excellent" description so he told them to go pull another one. Mine was the last SAKO and I specifically wanted one, so he had them throw in a sling for it, and a cleaning kit and bayo for an AK. Shortly after the ATF raided them on bogus charges and they almost had to close the doors. They've had to lay off a lot of their workforce, but they're still hanging in there. here's a link:
Curio and Relic Firearms - Mausers, M38s, M44s, M9130s, AK Rifles, Nagant Revolvers

Oops, I didn't notice that ole MM had already posted the link, but hey, you can never have too many right?

musicmaniac · 01-08-2008, 12:26 PM

Never can have too many is right! Lol. That's what I keep telling my wife about all my toys! Of course she reciprocates and tells me she needs to keep up with me by buying some more clothes. HAHA!! Fine with me, we each have to have something to spend money on to equalize each other right?

Sounds like they are a good company with good leadership. I am looking at their productas and they seem to have pretty fair prices as well!

Paper · 01-08-2008, 07:49 PM

I did, a bit over a year ago.. Took them 2+ weeks to ship two M44's that they said they had in stock.
I kept getting the "It'll ship tomorrow" line, and when I'd call 3 days later for a tracking number, I'd get another "It'll ship tomorrow" line of crap..

I finally got in touch with one of the owners, who finally got my guns out the door. (Or so he said)

He offered me a $20 credit towards my next order, but it's still sitting there as I haven't ordered from them again..

toolman · 01-08-2008, 11:49 PM

Paper, after the ATF screwed them over by stealing several millions of $$$ worth of their inventory, they basically went down to a skeleton crew. I think this is why they've been running into shipping problems.

manfoozle@yahoo · 01-09-2008, 03:05 PM

Wel let me explain my experiance so far.I bought some rifles over the phone on dec 16.I waited and waited about 2 weeks to bug them.I finally called them and they had informed me that the rifles that the sold me were sold out.I told them that that was not possible because I had asked how many rifles and I was told they had 8 so I purchased 4 of those rifles.My cc was charged that day.I was supposed to have 91/30's and they told me they had none to give me at there sale price,so I settled for a 91/30 with a broken stock 2 m44's and 1 m38.I was told they would ship at the beginng of the next week.So I waited until the end of the week to call and they had not shipped,I was told they would ship the next day.So I called two days later and they had not shipped.They told me they would ship the next day.So I called the next day (yesterday) and they had told me that they had been shipped so I gave them my email to send a tracking # I was on he phone as the lady sent the tracking # and she told me it had got to me succesfully and guess what no tracking #.I got a really good deal $49 a piece and I do realize that I chose to do bussiness with them but come on dont have the best deal on the internet and not be able to handle the volume.Sales of this nature should be to promote repeat bussines.

Paper · 01-09-2008, 03:27 PM

So, in a year nothing changed..
I sent an email to Ulrich (one of the owners) last night to see if I was still in the system, and if he was going to honor the $20 credit??

Maybe I'll just pass on the hassle..

SPOCAHP ANAR · 01-09-2008, 05:46 PM

YES

I paid extra for 3 day shipping and they sent the wrong item. They later sent the right item but it did not arrive w/in the specified time I paid for. Have not ordered anything else from them since and this was well before the "bogus charges" excuse could be used.

They also had some problems with the ATF ruling that the condition of parts kits not meeting the demilled requirement. Many people bought these kits and later had the ATF show up and confiscate them leaving the owners out 90$ plus.

It should also be noted that interordnance was one of the first to start seling the Russian 91/30 Nagant Snipers without foreclosing that they were indeed 91/30's that contained post war optics and mounts on them made after the war.

They later included a statement "the rifles may contain optics and mounts made post war on original equiptment." I believe they now have a full disclosure about the authenticity of these rifles.

Any company that is willing to blatantly decieve their customers in this manner I have no use for.

SwedeSteve · 01-13-2008, 12:48 PM

I have not done busness with them and probably won't due to all the negative comments I keep reading such as the above!

Paper · 01-13-2008, 03:10 PM

FYI, my email to them has gone ignored..
Screw em'..

mike63 · 01-14-2008, 04:10 PM

I ordered a Romanian AKM parts kit from them in early February 2002.(they told me they were in stock)at the end of march I called and was told they were having problems getting them in because of 911. They said they would keep me informed. Sent numerous emails inquiring about my order, got no response. Called again close to the end of May, was told the same thing as last time. Played this game through July and then started demanding a refund. Couldn't get an answer to email and got the runaround on the phone finally about the middle of September my package came. I payed $179 95 + $10.00 shipping for a new condition kit with word furniture. And after seven months and a butt load of aggravation, what I got was refinished, and had a cracked top cover, and crappy east German plastic furniture. And to top it off about two months latter those same kits were being sold for $149.95. Personally I wouldn't buy gold from them at .10 cents a pound.

blaster · 01-14-2008, 07:39 PM

I've bought several guns from them over the last 4 years and never had a problem. today I recieved a TT-33c pistol that I ordered a week ago. it looks brand new. maybe I'm lucky but I wouldnt hesitate to buy from them again.

Vegas Ed · 01-19-2008, 03:17 AM

Have purchased a few guns from them and have generally been satisfied. Just received a TT-33 that looks like new. The holster is so new that it's too stiff to open and close. Range report on the TT-33 to come later. The only problem I had was buying a Mosin 91/30 with octagon receiver and laminated stock. After 3 weeks with no delivery I called them and was told that they had called me twice and I couldn't be reached. Not so because they have my work number and I never missed a day. They could supply either a laminated stock or an octagon receiver but not both (not what their ad said). I settled for the octagon receiver at reduced price and got a sweet shooter.

01-08-2008, 11:39 AM	#1
manfoozle@yahoo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central FL Posts: 6	I.O. Inc Has any one ever had problems W/ I.O. Inc?

01-08-2008, 11:59 AM	#3
musicmaniac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 691 Images: 7	I have never dealt with or heard of them. Here is a link to their website I believe. Curio and Relic Firearms - Mausers, M38s, M44s, M9130s, AK Rifles, Nagant RevolversI did a search for that company name and came up with a few things, but am assuming you mean these guys. __________________ A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca

01-08-2008, 12:18 PM	#4
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 6,039 Blog Entries: 24	I've bought two guns from them but always in person. I found them to be great folks and very helpful. The first time I walked in to buy an M-44, the vice-pres. Oli, took me on a tour of the warehouse. At that time, they had about 5-6 pallets of U.S.-marked No.4 Mk.1 Enfields that had just arrived, they were turning PPsh 41 parts kits into complete semi-auto weapons, and there were more guns and accessories that I'd ever seen in one place. The next time, I went in to buy my M-39 and the pres. of the co., Uri had me come back and sit in his office while the guys pulled my gun. When the gun came out, he looked at it and decided it didn't meet the "excellent" description so he told them to go pull another one. Mine was the last SAKO and I specifically wanted one, so he had them throw in a sling for it, and a cleaning kit and bayo for an AK. Shortly after the ATF raided them on bogus charges and they almost had to close the doors. They've had to lay off a lot of their workforce, but they're still hanging in there. here's a link: Curio and Relic Firearms - Mausers, M38s, M44s, M9130s, AK Rifles, Nagant Revolvers Oops, I didn't notice that ole MM had already posted the link, but hey, you can never have too many right? __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

01-08-2008, 12:26 PM	#5
musicmaniac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 691 Images: 7	Never can have too many is right! Lol. That's what I keep telling my wife about all my toys! Of course she reciprocates and tells me she needs to keep up with me by buying some more clothes. HAHA!! Fine with me, we each have to have something to spend money on to equalize each other right? Sounds like they are a good company with good leadership. I am looking at their productas and they seem to have pretty fair prices as well! __________________ A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca

01-08-2008, 07:49 PM	#6
Paper Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL/WI Border Posts: 1,179	I did, a bit over a year ago.. Took them 2+ weeks to ship two M44's that they said they had in stock. I kept getting the "It'll ship tomorrow" line, and when I'd call 3 days later for a tracking number, I'd get another "It'll ship tomorrow" line of crap.. I finally got in touch with one of the owners, who finally got my guns out the door. (Or so he said) He offered me a $20 credit towards my next order, but it's still sitting there as I haven't ordered from them again.. __________________

01-08-2008, 11:56 AM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 11,267	I have'nt who are they ?

01-08-2008, 11:49 PM	#7
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 6,039 Blog Entries: 24	Paper, after the ATF screwed them over by stealing several millions of $$$ worth of their inventory, they basically went down to a skeleton crew. I think this is why they've been running into shipping problems. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

01-09-2008, 03:05 PM	#8
manfoozle@yahoo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central FL Posts: 6	Wel let me explain my experiance so far.I bought some rifles over the phone on dec 16.I waited and waited about 2 weeks to bug them.I finally called them and they had informed me that the rifles that the sold me were sold out.I told them that that was not possible because I had asked how many rifles and I was told they had 8 so I purchased 4 of those rifles.My cc was charged that day.I was supposed to have 91/30's and they told me they had none to give me at there sale price,so I settled for a 91/30 with a broken stock 2 m44's and 1 m38.I was told they would ship at the beginng of the next week.So I waited until the end of the week to call and they had not shipped,I was told they would ship the next day.So I called two days later and they had not shipped.They told me they would ship the next day.So I called the next day (yesterday) and they had told me that they had been shipped so I gave them my email to send a tracking # I was on he phone as the lady sent the tracking # and she told me it had got to me succesfully and guess what no tracking #.I got a really good deal $49 a piece and I do realize that I chose to do bussiness with them but come on dont have the best deal on the internet and not be able to handle the volume.Sales of this nature should be to promote repeat bussines.

01-09-2008, 03:27 PM	#9
Paper Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL/WI Border Posts: 1,179	So, in a year nothing changed.. I sent an email to Ulrich (one of the owners) last night to see if I was still in the system, and if he was going to honor the $20 credit?? Maybe I'll just pass on the hassle.. __________________

01-09-2008, 05:46 PM	#10
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,225 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	YES I paid extra for 3 day shipping and they sent the wrong item. They later sent the right item but it did not arrive w/in the specified time I paid for. Have not ordered anything else from them since and this was well before the "bogus charges" excuse could be used. They also had some problems with the ATF ruling that the condition of parts kits not meeting the demilled requirement. Many people bought these kits and later had the ATF show up and confiscate them leaving the owners out 90$ plus. It should also be noted that interordnance was one of the first to start seling the Russian 91/30 Nagant Snipers without foreclosing that they were indeed 91/30's that contained post war optics and mounts on them made after the war. They later included a statement "the rifles may contain optics and mounts made post war on original equiptment." I believe they now have a full disclosure about the authenticity of these rifles. Any company that is willing to blatantly decieve their customers in this manner I have no use for. __________________ Spocrest Out!.......... Last edited by SPOCAHP ANAR; 01-09-2008 at 05:59 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-13-2008, 12:48 PM	#11
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,121 Images: 1	I have not done busness with them and probably won't due to all the negative comments I keep reading such as the above! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-13-2008, 03:10 PM	#12
Paper Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: IL/WI Border Posts: 1,179	FYI, my email to them has gone ignored.. Screw em'.. __________________

01-14-2008, 04:10 PM	#13
mike63 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philadelphia, MS. Posts: 389	I ordered a Romanian AKM parts kit from them in early February 2002.(they told me they were in stock)at the end of march I called and was told they were having problems getting them in because of 911. They said they would keep me informed. Sent numerous emails inquiring about my order, got no response. Called again close to the end of May, was told the same thing as last time. Played this game through July and then started demanding a refund. Couldn't get an answer to email and got the runaround on the phone finally about the middle of September my package came. I payed $179 95 + $10.00 shipping for a new condition kit with word furniture. And after seven months and a butt load of aggravation, what I got was refinished, and had a cracked top cover, and crappy east German plastic furniture. And to top it off about two months latter those same kits were being sold for $149.95. Personally I wouldn't buy gold from them at .10 cents a pound. __________________ Do it today, tomorrow it may be illegal.

01-14-2008, 07:39 PM	#14
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 645	I've bought several guns from them over the last 4 years and never had a problem. today I recieved a TT-33c pistol that I ordered a week ago. it looks brand new. maybe I'm lucky but I wouldnt hesitate to buy from them again. __________________ peace through superior firepower

01-19-2008, 03:17 AM	#15
Vegas Ed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 7	Buying from IO Have purchased a few guns from them and have generally been satisfied. Just received a TT-33 that looks like new. The holster is so new that it's too stiff to open and close. Range report on the TT-33 to come later. The only problem I had was buying a Mosin 91/30 with octagon receiver and laminated stock. After 3 weeks with no delivery I called them and was told that they had called me twice and I couldn't be reached. Not so because they have my work number and I never missed a day. They could supply either a laminated stock or an octagon receiver but not both (not what their ad said). I settled for the octagon receiver at reduced price and got a sweet shooter.