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Old 12-31-2007, 01:47 PM   #21
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Sir, you are so right! And, sad to say, our military has done some of the same lately. How can you prosecute someone for reacting during the heat of battle? They are all trained to defend, and fight when need be. My son was prosecuted in Nevada for defending his pregnant wife after a jerk tried to run them off the highway. The Corp said he did exactly what he was trained to do, and he didn't get in trouble on the military side. But on the civilian side, it cost him alot of money. Scotty
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:33 PM   #22
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So, if there was an armed citizen in the store, with a CCW permit and a legal handgun, could that citizen have legally shot the maggot? Especially after he'd fired a shot, even though it missed? This is my concern as a permit holder, when can we legally act and when can we not? This thug was killed by a COP, and now the cop's in deep doo-doo for it. What would happen to Joe 6-pack the permit holder?
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:05 AM   #23
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The answer to that ??? is Yes ... You may use deadly force to "prevent death or serious bodily injury.. of yourself or another" One of the customers in that video sure could've pulled a roscoe and popped him in the back of the head and would've been with the LAW. But if you decide to get involved in that capacity just know.
#1 You will probally not get an atta boy and a pat on the back.(although you should)
#2 How much crap you go through will largely depend on whatever political wind is blowing. As well as other factors that i won't go into detail about.
#3 And unfortunately you probally will need a lawyer

My suggestion , And what I use as a rule when off duty, is When you are in fear for your ( or someone elses, ie your family) life don't hesitate. Do what has to be done. But short of that I will make a great witness. get a GOOD phy desciption, cloths,tatoos, facial hair, vehicle,direction of travel... that stuff.

It's a big decision and should be thought out long before you walk in on crime in progress. It will change your life , probally not for the good .
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:52 AM   #24
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Here in Okla. I've read and watched the news about a bystander stopping a crime by pulling a weapon. in one case it was an armed robbery in progress, and the perp was terminated. The authorities said thank you very much. The down side is you have to live with that instant for the rest of your life. Even when it happens in the heat of battle, taking the life of another is a life changing experience. This is something to study if you are going to carry. You number one have to ask yourself, am I capable of taking a life, and number two, can I live with afterwards? Having that permit is one thing, but using it is another. A little food for thought on new years day.Scotty
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Old 01-01-2008, 07:59 AM   #25
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I'd often thought about what to do after I had to shoot a bad guy. I think if at all possible I would pick up my brass and dissapear. I don't want no pat on the back and I can't afford lawyers. It might not be the best thing to do but its one of my plans. all plans hinge on the circumstance.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:50 PM   #26
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I worked corrections, 14 years of it and finaly said good bye I can assume that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't!the brass will hang you out to dry for following their policy& proceedure.I have been gone 12 years next month and the last 12 have been the best!!!!!

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Old 01-22-2008, 07:18 PM   #27
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Shakepeare had one of his characters say in one of his "History" plays I get confused as to whether it is Henry IV or Henry VI But one of the ne'er do wells in one of those plays says and I quote "first we kill all the lawyers."----I'm not condoning that particular method of elimanation. But we certainly have to get a whole new set of polititicians and do it pdq or this country is finished as we and the founding fathers envision it should be!
Cyrille, that's from Henry VI, Part II; Act IV, Scene 2. The line reads, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."

(No, I'm not a Shakespearean scholar. But I do know how to use Bartlett's Familiar Quotations!)
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