optics for an m-1

sexysete · 12-28-2007, 10:29 PM

im looking at getting a scope for my m1 but don't know what to get so any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you

sunray · 12-29-2007, 09:13 PM

Don't bother. It's a carbine. Scoping it will bugger up the balance.

Mooseman684 · 12-29-2007, 10:19 PM

Sunray ????
That is Horse Crap.....

Dookiebutt · 12-29-2007, 10:47 PM

My buddy put a red-dot type sight on his. It works well, but he hates the way it looks.

oldjarhead · 12-30-2007, 10:59 PM

Bushnell 4x32 on a dovetail base.
Looks good and will serve the range of the carbine well.

sexysete · 12-31-2007, 02:13 AM

you guys' input will be undoubtedly helpful in selecting a scope

oldjarhead · 12-31-2007, 09:57 AM

I'm considering scoping one of mine in the near furture.

sunray · 01-01-2008, 12:48 AM

Scoping a 6 pound carbine will move the center of balance up and either back of or forwards of the natural balance point. That screws up the balance.

oldjarhead · 01-01-2008, 10:32 AM

Dang...and I thought it simply made the target easier to see...silly me. Well, back to the old drawing board. Does that mean I need to un-scope my Rem 600, 10/22, et al?
Hey Moose...how do I overcome the offset of balance my scope is causing..Geez, I didn't have a problem until now. Burst my bubble. I was doin' so well.
I guess the scope, bi-pod, flashlight holder, laser sight, bayonet, flash suppressor, sling, etc on my AR-15 has really screwed things up. BUT that's ok 'cause I don't own an AR anything.
Unless the scope is mounted incorrectly, it should have little effect on the weapon balance or its function. You may have to modify your spot-weld a little to accomodate the extra height.
Now, if you put a 12 pound scope on a 6 pound weapon, you may have an issue.

Just funnin'

sexysete · 01-26-2008, 05:22 AM

i got my side mount base and ring set last week but i don't have my scope yet do you guys know if i can get some good glass for under $60

oldjarhead · 01-26-2008, 10:47 AM

Bushnell 4x32 will run around $35.

Wingwiper · 01-26-2008, 12:41 PM

I agree with the balance point being thrown off and if one is ONLY going to shoot in the Prone, it probably will not matter. Anyone else who may be shooting OFF HAND, Sitting or even kneeling the front end heavy carbine may be harder to handle for a solid position. Then again, Position is EVERYTHING when I shoot and I only put on a bayonet when I have allowed them to get to close from shooting inaccurate shots due to front end heavy carbines....

as far as flash suppressors and all of the other Hoo Rah stuff, it is the BULLET that kills. I keep mine as original as possible. But that is me..... Old jar head >

< me

I personnally don' understand why anyone would want to put a scope on such a short range firearm, but then again it is a FREE COUNTRY and different strokes for different folks. That is what makes the world go around. or was that Orbit???

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Originally Posted by sexysete

i got my side mount base and ring set last week but i don't have my scope yet do you guys know if i can get some good glass for under $60

You might get good arcylic for under $60 but I doubt you will get Glass.

oldjarhead · 01-29-2008, 02:38 AM

[quote=Wingwiper;407293] as far as flash suppressors and all of the other Hoo Rah stuff, it is the BULLET that kills. I keep mine as original as possible. But that is me..... Old jar head >

< me

I personnally don' understand why anyone would want to put a scope on such a short range firearm, quote]

Come on, go back and read what I said. Mine are all in the military configuration. However, even the military scoped the little shooter and called it an M3. BTW, The military scope system used for the M3 weighed in at around 32 pounds with it's battery system.

sexysete · 01-29-2008, 09:53 AM

wasn't it also the first night vision scope or one of the first and the military called it something like "star light" or something

oldjarhead · 01-30-2008, 01:10 AM

I believe it was a night sight but it used vacuum tubes instead of transistor and IC's that are used now. The think looked pretty much like a regular scope...a big one...and had a large circular unit hanging from the stock. Looked somewhat like a drum magazine for a Thompson. If I knew how to get pictures onto this site, I'd scan it in. I was joking when I stated earlier about putting a 12 pound scope on a 6 pound rifle...then I came across this old magazine article I have...wonders never cease.

GlockMeister · 01-30-2008, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sexysete

i got my side mount base and ring set last week but i don't have my scope yet do you guys know if i can get some good glass for under $60

Try this one.
Leapers 5th Gen 4X32 Mini Size A.O. Range Estimating Mil-Dot Red/Green Illuminated Scope SCP-432AOMDL2 w/ FREE Shipping SALE Free shipping on it here so if you order on line, the price isn't to bad?
Leapers 5th generation 4X32 AO model #SCP-432AOMDL2. I was able to find it for $54.99.

G-Meister

12-28-2007, 10:29 PM	#1
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	optics for an m-1 im looking at getting a scope for my m1 but don't know what to get so any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you

12-29-2007, 10:19 PM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,601 Images: 2	Sunray ???? That is Horse Crap..... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-31-2007, 02:13 AM	#6
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	thankyou you guys' input will be undoubtedly helpful in selecting a scope

01-01-2008, 10:32 AM	#9
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	Dang...and I thought it simply made the target easier to see...silly me. Well, back to the old drawing board. Does that mean I need to un-scope my Rem 600, 10/22, et al? Hey Moose...how do I overcome the offset of balance my scope is causing..Geez, I didn't have a problem until now. Burst my bubble. I was doin' so well. I guess the scope, bi-pod, flashlight holder, laser sight, bayonet, flash suppressor, sling, etc on my AR-15 has really screwed things up. BUT that's ok 'cause I don't own an AR anything. Unless the scope is mounted incorrectly, it should have little effect on the weapon balance or its function. You may have to modify your spot-weld a little to accomodate the extra height. Now, if you put a 12 pound scope on a 6 pound weapon, you may have an issue. Just funnin' Last edited by oldjarhead; 01-02-2008 at 12:00 PM.

12-29-2007, 09:13 PM	#2
sunray Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 98	Don't bother. It's a carbine. Scoping it will bugger up the balance.

12-29-2007, 10:47 PM	#4
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,307	My buddy put a red-dot type sight on his. It works well, but he hates the way it looks.

12-30-2007, 10:59 PM	#5
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	Bushnell 4x32 on a dovetail base. Looks good and will serve the range of the carbine well.

12-31-2007, 09:57 AM	#7
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	I'm considering scoping one of mine in the near furture.

01-01-2008, 12:48 AM	#8
sunray Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 98	Scoping a 6 pound carbine will move the center of balance up and either back of or forwards of the natural balance point. That screws up the balance.

01-26-2008, 05:22 AM	#10
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	i got my side mount base and ring set last week but i don't have my scope yet do you guys know if i can get some good glass for under $60

01-26-2008, 10:47 AM	#11
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	Bushnell 4x32 will run around $35.

01-29-2008, 02:38 AM	#13
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	[quote=Wingwiper;407293] as far as flash suppressors and all of the other Hoo Rah stuff, it is the BULLET that kills. I keep mine as original as possible. But that is me..... Old jar head > < me I personnally don' understand why anyone would want to put a scope on such a short range firearm, quote] Come on, go back and read what I said. Mine are all in the military configuration. However, even the military scoped the little shooter and called it an M3. BTW, The military scope system used for the M3 weighed in at around 32 pounds with it's battery system.

01-29-2008, 09:53 AM	#14
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	wasn't it also the first night vision scope or one of the first and the military called it something like "star light" or something

01-30-2008, 01:10 AM	#15
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 919	I believe it was a night sight but it used vacuum tubes instead of transistor and IC's that are used now. The think looked pretty much like a regular scope...a big one...and had a large circular unit hanging from the stock. Looked somewhat like a drum magazine for a Thompson. If I knew how to get pictures onto this site, I'd scan it in. I was joking when I stated earlier about putting a 12 pound scope on a 6 pound rifle...then I came across this old magazine article I have...wonders never cease.