C&R questions

Philip · 01-26-2008, 06:49 PM

what is gained by owning a C&R?

what does it take to get one and what does it take/cost/etc?

WHAT?

sorry on the double thread guys, my browser goofed, and i didnt think it

texnmidwest · 01-26-2008, 07:09 PM

Well, I just sent off for mine and the waiting game has started. From what i gathered from this forum here is what you gain:

Shipping of C&R qualified firearms directly to your home with out transfer fees.

Discounts on ammo.

Ability to gain dealer prices.

Excuse to buy firearms.

Empty check book and wallet.

Increased skill at hiding, downplaying amount on receipts, invoices and new acquisitions.

Need to convert the basement into a very large gun safe.

And if the wife does not share your love for firearms or does not at least understand your love of firearms....things could get ugly quickly.

To get one just go on the BATF website and request the paperwork for a 7CR license. The cost is 30 bucks for three years. If you buy one or two firearms in those three years then you save transfer fees you will pay for your license.

Full MeTal Jack · 01-26-2008, 07:19 PM

Tex is right,"Excuse to buy firearms. Empty check book and wallet. Increased skill at hiding, downplaying amount on receipts, invoices and new acquisitions.

My belief. "A man can not have too many guns"

Cost: $30 for 3 years

Also the C&R has a cool factor of 8. The C& R is actually a Federal License.

Get your and order your Persian Mauser,unissued without the middle man.

Some nice handguns on the market too.

Philip · 01-26-2008, 07:27 PM

hmm. so if one has a c&r your gun dont hafta be shipped to FFL holder, eh

phoenix79 · 01-26-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philip

hmm. so if one has a c&r your gun dont hafta be shipped to FFL holder, eh

As long as it's on the C&R list OR manufactured at least 50 Years ago.

Philip · 01-26-2008, 07:56 PM

Full MeTal Jack · 01-26-2008, 08:07 PM

Once you get your C&R, you send a copy (signed) to suppliers, like Century, Aim, IO, Classic military weapons, Samco, CDNN and SOG. Recieve all the quarterly flyers.
The C&R eligable firearm is delivered right to your front door. Signature required. Or you can pick it up at local UPS or Federal Express.
Call Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and they will send you an application.
You will also need your local chief of police endorsement too.
He/she has a line to sign on the application.

.22guy · 01-26-2008, 08:41 PM

You also have to keep a record of the C&R guns you acquire and dispose of.

Also, I've seen many people that insist they don't have to list the guns they buy in legal, face-to-face transactions because they aren't "USING" their C&R license. I'm just about positive this is incorrect. Remember, YOU are licensed.

Overall, it's a great deal to have one. I have one and have enjoyed it. And no calls from the BATFE yet.

phoenix79 · 01-26-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Full MeTal Jack

You will also need your local chief of police endorsement too.
He/she has a line to sign on the application.

This is incorrect for the majority of localities. You are only required to send your CLEO a filled out copy of the application. He does not need to sign it. There may be a few municipalities that require this by local law but it is not federal or widespread.

Paper · 01-27-2008, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip

hmm. so if one has a c&r your gun dont hafta be shipped to FFL holder, eh

Depends on the State you reside.. I'll need others to correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't one still need to go through a FFL01 license holder in the State of California?

I know Cali has different rules about the FFL03 (C and R) license, and since I don't live there I don't know them..

And yeah, you only need to make one or two purchases in order to save the money you spend on the license.. I'd like to meet someone who can stop at 1 or 2..

texnmidwest · 01-27-2008, 07:08 AM

I stopped at 2! Well, last week anyways.

billy · 01-27-2008, 07:29 AM

i have never bought a firearm with mine.
i use it to get dealer prices on ammo/parts/equipment
it paid for itself the 1st time i bought ammo.

mosineer · 01-27-2008, 07:51 AM

I have enjoyed my C&R (FFL03). Been fun so far. The hardest part (like all have mentioned) is balancing budget to leave room to buy another gun safe. Here are a couple of sites that may help, the first has some basic guidelines and the second is where you can order your forms. Curio and Relic Firearms

Distribution Center Order Form

*****************************************************
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

Big Tool · 01-27-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

i have never bought a firearm with mine.
i use it to get dealer prices on ammo/parts/equipment
it paid for itself the 1st time i bought ammo.

How does it save money on ammo and all the other stuff, and how do you get dealer pricing???

I'm calling ATF tomorrow to get the paperwork, about how long does the process take. I'm wanting another k31 and skipping transfer fees would be great.

.22guy · 01-27-2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper

Depends on the State you reside.. I'll need others to correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't one still need to go through a FFL01 license holder in the State of California?
I know Cali has different rules about the FFL03 (C and R) license, and since I don't live there I don't know them..
And yeah, you only need to make one or two purchases in order to save the money you spend on the license.. I'd like to meet someone who can stop at 1 or 2..

You only have to use an 01 for pistols.

To summarize California C&R: (for anyone who wants to know)
1. A rifle MUST be 50 years old, regardless of C&R status. Anything newer than 50 years, must go through an 01.
2. A rifle cannot be defined as an assault weapon, by features. So if it has a pistol grip or any of that "scary" stuff, you're pretty much SOL.
3. No mags over 10 rounds.

squirrelbaster · 01-28-2008, 10:15 AM

ive heard it said that if you have a ffl then the ATF can show up at your door at anytime demanding to see your guns........ is this true? and does it aplie to c&r?

billy · 01-28-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Tool

How does it save money on ammo and all the other stuff, and how do you get dealer pricing???

I'm calling ATF tomorrow to get the paperwork, about how long does the process take. I'm wanting another k31 and skipping transfer fees would be great.

send out copies of your c&r to companies and you get dealer prices from most of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

ive heard it said that if you have a ffl then the ATF can show up at your door at anytime demanding to see your guns........ is this true? and does it aplie to c&r?

with a c&r they have to make an appointment.
at least in colo. they do
i have never heard of anybody having that happen but it has i bet.

Righteous · 01-30-2008, 06:08 PM

let them show up at the door...I've nothing to hide

billy · 01-30-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Righteous

let them show up at the door...I've nothing to hide

+1

letsroll · 02-11-2008, 07:20 PM

Got web links for these? Classic military weapons and CDNN
Also what does SOG need to get registered with your C&R? Mailed or faxed? I sent them a note but wondered if someone could tell me now. They have a rifle I REALLY BADLY NEED and I couldn't wait!!

01-26-2008, 06:49 PM	#1
Philip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0)	C&R questions what is gained by owning a C&R? what does it take to get one and what does it take/cost/etc? WHAT? sorry on the double thread guys, my browser goofed, and i didnt think it __________________ i am not trying to jam a round up a fly's butt @100 yds. --- billy Last edited by Philip; 01-26-2008 at 06:51 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-26-2008, 07:09 PM	#2
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,016 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, I just sent off for mine and the waiting game has started. From what i gathered from this forum here is what you gain: Shipping of C&R qualified firearms directly to your home with out transfer fees. Discounts on ammo. Ability to gain dealer prices. Excuse to buy firearms. Empty check book and wallet. Increased skill at hiding, downplaying amount on receipts, invoices and new acquisitions. Need to convert the basement into a very large gun safe. And if the wife does not share your love for firearms or does not at least understand your love of firearms....things could get ugly quickly. To get one just go on the BATF website and request the paperwork for a 7CR license. The cost is 30 bucks for three years. If you buy one or two firearms in those three years then you save transfer fees you will pay for your license. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead) Last edited by texnmidwest; 01-26-2008 at 07:11 PM.

01-26-2008, 07:19 PM	#3
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,416 Trader Rating: (0)	Tex is right,"Excuse to buy firearms. Empty check book and wallet. Increased skill at hiding, downplaying amount on receipts, invoices and new acquisitions. My belief. "A man can not have too many guns" Cost: $30 for 3 years Also the C&R has a cool factor of 8. The C& R is actually a Federal License. Get your and order your Persian Mauser,unissued without the middle man. Some nice handguns on the market too. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

01-26-2008, 07:27 PM	#4
Philip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0)	hmm. so if one has a c&r your gun dont hafta be shipped to FFL holder, eh __________________ i am not trying to jam a round up a fly's butt @100 yds. --- billy

01-26-2008, 07:56 PM	#6
Philip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (0)	yep __________________ i am not trying to jam a round up a fly's butt @100 yds. --- billy

01-26-2008, 08:07 PM	#7
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,416 Trader Rating: (0)	Once you get your C&R, you send a copy (signed) to suppliers, like Century, Aim, IO, Classic military weapons, Samco, CDNN and SOG. Recieve all the quarterly flyers. The C&R eligable firearm is delivered right to your front door. Signature required. Or you can pick it up at local UPS or Federal Express. Call Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and they will send you an application. You will also need your local chief of police endorsement too. He/she has a line to sign on the application. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg Last edited by Full MeTal Jack; 01-26-2008 at 08:12 PM.

01-26-2008, 08:41 PM	#8
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,065 Trader Rating: (0)	You also have to keep a record of the C&R guns you acquire and dispose of. Also, I've seen many people that insist they don't have to list the guns they buy in legal, face-to-face transactions because they aren't "USING" their C&R license. I'm just about positive this is incorrect. Remember, YOU are licensed. Overall, it's a great deal to have one. I have one and have enjoyed it. And no calls from the BATFE yet. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

01-27-2008, 07:08 AM	#11
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,016 Trader Rating: (0)	I stopped at 2! Well, last week anyways. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

01-27-2008, 07:29 AM	#12
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	i have never bought a firearm with mine. i use it to get dealer prices on ammo/parts/equipment it paid for itself the 1st time i bought ammo. __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

01-27-2008, 07:51 AM	#13
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,265 Trader Rating: (0)	I have enjoyed my C&R (FFL03). Been fun so far. The hardest part (like all have mentioned) is balancing budget to leave room to buy another gun safe. Here are a couple of sites that may help, the first has some basic guidelines and the second is where you can order your forms. Curio and Relic Firearms Distribution Center Order Form *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

01-28-2008, 10:15 AM	#16
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,063 Trader Rating: (0)	ive heard it said that if you have a ffl then the ATF can show up at your door at anytime demanding to see your guns........ is this true? and does it aplie to c&r?

01-30-2008, 06:08 PM	#18
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214 Trader Rating: (0)	let them show up at the door...I've nothing to hide

02-11-2008, 07:20 PM	#20
letsroll Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: central IL Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0)	Got web links for these? Classic military weapons and CDNN Also what does SOG need to get registered with your C&R? Mailed or faxed? I sent them a note but wondered if someone could tell me now. They have a rifle I REALLY BADLY NEED and I couldn't wait!! Last edited by letsroll; 02-11-2008 at 07:27 PM.