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GlockMeister · 01-29-2008, 10:20 PM

When are they going to give them one with some real stopping power though? I love the Beretta M9 and the Glock, but give them at the very least a .40 in the Glock and at the very least a .45. if not in a Beretta, something. Probably wouldn't any longer be in the M9 configuration if a Beretta, but a 9mm tends to sometimes just pissing someone off instead of dropping them, unless you get a head shot or other vital organ hit. But in combat and the heat of the moment, you generally don;t have the time to sit there and aim or ask the person to quit moving or hiding so you can take a decent shot.

Watched a show on this the other night, about the lack of stopping power in the 9mm on the military channel or maybe it was the history channel? Either way the guy had commented on how little stopping power the 9mm had and unless you got a vital organ or head shot, the odds were the person could still live long enough to still be a threat or get away and live to fight another day.

I'd rather, in combat, carry something that I know will take them out with the 1st and if not it then the 2nd shot, as a .45 would, rather then have the 9mm and have maybe 3 hits on the person and still have them shooting,coming at me. The big difference and + with the 9mm though is the round/magazine capacity. Which is why I mentioned the .40cal. You can still get at least a 15 round magazine (Glock) over the 7 or 8 round of the standard .45.

I do believe however I saw a .45 where the configuration allowed a 10 or 12 round capacity? I can't remember which brand or model it was or which show I heard or saw it on. I do remember hearing it though. And no it wasn't the Glock .45GAP round either or maybe it was, hell I can't remember. lol Although there is another thought, the .45GAP round. I'd personally still take that over 9mm if ever in combat and given the choice. Too bad our boys can't carry their personal firearms that they're familiar with and use to, hand guns anyhow. I know some specialized units do get the .45 still.

I'm personally glad they extended Beretta contract or gave them a new one. They are tried and true to work when needed and an overall great gun (M9) and company. Although, in this recent testing ground where our men and women are now, I haven't heard what the sand and dust is doing to them like I have the M4.

G-Meister

01-29-2008, 10:20 PM	#15
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,273	When are they going to give them one with some real stopping power though? I love the Beretta M9 and the Glock, but give them at the very least a .40 in the Glock and at the very least a .45. if not in a Beretta, something. Probably wouldn't any longer be in the M9 configuration if a Beretta, but a 9mm tends to sometimes just pissing someone off instead of dropping them, unless you get a head shot or other vital organ hit. But in combat and the heat of the moment, you generally don;t have the time to sit there and aim or ask the person to quit moving or hiding so you can take a decent shot. Watched a show on this the other night, about the lack of stopping power in the 9mm on the military channel or maybe it was the history channel? Either way the guy had commented on how little stopping power the 9mm had and unless you got a vital organ or head shot, the odds were the person could still live long enough to still be a threat or get away and live to fight another day. I'd rather, in combat, carry something that I know will take them out with the 1st and if not it then the 2nd shot, as a .45 would, rather then have the 9mm and have maybe 3 hits on the person and still have them shooting,coming at me. The big difference and + with the 9mm though is the round/magazine capacity. Which is why I mentioned the .40cal. You can still get at least a 15 round magazine (Glock) over the 7 or 8 round of the standard .45. I do believe however I saw a .45 where the configuration allowed a 10 or 12 round capacity? I can't remember which brand or model it was or which show I heard or saw it on. I do remember hearing it though. And no it wasn't the Glock .45GAP round either or maybe it was, hell I can't remember. lol Although there is another thought, the .45GAP round. I'd personally still take that over 9mm if ever in combat and given the choice. Too bad our boys can't carry their personal firearms that they're familiar with and use to, hand guns anyhow. I know some specialized units do get the .45 still. I'm personally glad they extended Beretta contract or gave them a new one. They are tried and true to work when needed and an overall great gun (M9) and company. Although, in this recent testing ground where our men and women are now, I haven't heard what the sand and dust is doing to them like I have the M4. G-Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!