Jammed my FEG R61

MrsS · 02-03-2008, 03:50 PM

Just FYI....I decided to shoot my R61 I bought a few weeks ago....thank goodness it was in an armory....my gun stated it was a "9mmM" so I loaded it with 9mm Makarov; it fit perfectly in my magazine. Of course, the Makarov ammo jammed my gun. The techs who inspected and "unjammed" my gun stated that even though it is stamped "9mmM", my R61 is actually calibrated for 380 ammo, which also fits well in my magazine. Gun fires perfectly since. Just something I had to learn on my own...hopefully, this may help other R61 owners out there; just make doubly sure the ammo that particuliar takes.

Mooseman684 · 02-03-2008, 03:59 PM

Sounds like somebody changed the Barrel to .380 acp.
The exposed part of the barrel (When the slide is closed) should have been stamped to reflect this change in Caliber...
Rich

MrsS · 02-03-2008, 07:38 PM

Thank you....the only marking I see in that area is "9mm short"...I continue to search for information on that gun...it almost looks like the PA63 but being so new to handguns, I would rather have info on my model. I did not think a handgun can be so confusing.

MOCKBA · 02-29-2008, 09:25 AM

Mine says 9mm kurz and .380 acp on the side. I also tried to use makarov in it but it jammed. Now I use .380 auto. The rounds that work best in my pistol are the winchester .380 auto kleen bore with the flatnose.

wunhunglo · 02-29-2008, 11:28 AM

9mm Kurtz = 9mm Short = .380acp

MrsS · 02-29-2008, 04:13 PM

I use remington .380 and winchester .380 flat nose.....both have worked marvelously in my gun.......not a jam or other problem since then.

Cyrano · 03-01-2008, 09:12 PM

We ran across this once before, I seem to recall. It appears that FEG uses the same slides for the PA-63s chambered for 9x18 Makarov, which is abbreviated "9mmM" on the slide; and for the PA-63s in .380 ACP, aka 9mm Kurz or "9mmK." You have to go by the stamp visible in the ejection port, not by what it says on the left hand side of the slide. I guess it's not that strange - my Ortgies is stamped "7.65mm" on the port, but my Llama Model IX-A is not - but it is a little disconcerting.

02-03-2008, 03:50 PM	#1
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Originally from the 26th state of the union; now living in the 16th. Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (0)	Jammed my FEG R61 Just FYI....I decided to shoot my R61 I bought a few weeks ago....thank goodness it was in an armory....my gun stated it was a "9mmM" so I loaded it with 9mm Makarov; it fit perfectly in my magazine. Of course, the Makarov ammo jammed my gun. The techs who inspected and "unjammed" my gun stated that even though it is stamped "9mmM", my R61 is actually calibrated for 380 ammo, which also fits well in my magazine. Gun fires perfectly since. Just something I had to learn on my own...hopefully, this may help other R61 owners out there; just make doubly sure the ammo that particuliar takes.

02-03-2008, 03:59 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,055 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds like somebody changed the Barrel to .380 acp. The exposed part of the barrel (When the slide is closed) should have been stamped to reflect this change in Caliber... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

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02-03-2008, 07:38 PM	#3
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Originally from the 26th state of the union; now living in the 16th. Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (0)	Thank you....the only marking I see in that area is "9mm short"...I continue to search for information on that gun...it almost looks like the PA63 but being so new to handguns, I would rather have info on my model. I did not think a handgun can be so confusing.

02-29-2008, 09:25 AM	#4
MOCKBA Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0)	Mine says 9mm kurz and .380 acp on the side. I also tried to use makarov in it but it jammed. Now I use .380 auto. The rounds that work best in my pistol are the winchester .380 auto kleen bore with the flatnose.

02-29-2008, 11:28 AM	#5
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,305 Trader Rating: (0)	9mm Kurtz = 9mm Short = .380acp

02-29-2008, 04:13 PM	#6
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Originally from the 26th state of the union; now living in the 16th. Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (0)	I use remington .380 and winchester .380 flat nose.....both have worked marvelously in my gun.......not a jam or other problem since then.

03-01-2008, 09:12 PM	#7
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,812 Trader Rating: (0)	We ran across this once before, I seem to recall. It appears that FEG uses the same slides for the PA-63s chambered for 9x18 Makarov, which is abbreviated "9mmM" on the slide; and for the PA-63s in .380 ACP, aka 9mm Kurz or "9mmK." You have to go by the stamp visible in the ejection port, not by what it says on the left hand side of the slide. I guess it's not that strange - my Ortgies is stamped "7.65mm" on the port, but my Llama Model IX-A is not - but it is a little disconcerting.