New Guy with a Mossberg

Alleydude · 02-06-2008, 08:01 PM

Hello all. New guy here, I just bought my first gun. I got a Mossberg 12 gauge field/deer combo. I figured it would have a pretty good kick, but the target shells didn't bother me too much. Then I tried some sabot rounds through the rifled barrel. Whoa, now THERE's some KICK!

I'm not a hunter (yet, anyway) but wanted something for home protection. Now I'm looking at all kinds of guns, just because... You probably don't understand that (tongue in cheek).

Anyway, thought I would introduce myself. I'm new to this gun thing. I look forward to reading up on all the different aspects of these things.

ArkansasHunter · 02-06-2008, 08:04 PM

Welcome to the World of some of the finest folks you'll ever meet, Gun Owners.

And WELCOME to GUN and GAME a site where we can share our interest feller.

Looking forward to seeing you around !!! Thanks for Joining...A.H

PistolCity · 02-06-2008, 08:07 PM

Welcome, one great thing about the Mossberg 500 is the accesories. You have a entire slew of aftermarket products readily available. Plus the gun itself is very easy to maintain. Hot loads like slugs, turkey loads, 00 buck will always provide more of a kick, even simi-hot loads such as your normal high brass shot shells will have more of a kick. But I'll promise you one thing, while at the shooting bench your going to say WHOA! When that day a deer, turkey or any other game your using a hot load on. You wont feel a thing. Im using the term hot loosly here. But get you some guns and ammo or any other type of gun magazine and you basic knowleddge will grow quickly.

neophyte · 02-06-2008, 08:11 PM

Alleydude: Sir; there is a bunch who know about them Mossbergs here. Welcome and share your experiences.

Alleydude · 02-06-2008, 08:19 PM

Thanks,all. I only wish this Michigan weather would cooperate and let me go out and shoot just a little more. It's FREAKIN' COLD out!

Momoney567 · 02-06-2008, 08:37 PM

Always warm in Louisiana =]
Its never too cold to shoot a new gun.

PistolCity · 02-06-2008, 08:38 PM

I use to shoot sporting clays alots. And I love to rabbit hunt in snow or rain, if the holes are filled with water or snow there aint now where to go.

My dad and I came up with a little slogan to go out and stand in a box to shoot clay. If your going to hunt in it, might as well play in it. Only time I hate shooting is when its extremely windy. Hard to get the targets up, and you should see all the neat tricks wind can put on clay! Especially a till station, a till station you stand behind a large wood plank that goes Id guess 10-12 ft up. The trapper sits behind it and the birds(clay) are thrown straight up about 20-25 ft or better. If you have good wind Ive seen those birds get blown behind you. Actually one time the guy that owned the course went out and closed the station because it was so bad. If you ever get a chance find a place and shoot around, I wont lie it can be expensive. You'll need 100 shells I always take at least a half box extra per round. So figure 20-25 dollars if you can find the 100ct boxes at wal-mart. Plus around here its about 25 dollars to shoot 1 round, plus its a unwritted code to tip the trapper normaly about $5 bucks. If you want to shoot more than 1 round, tell the trapper you want him again, might squeeze 2 rounds out for a $5 buck tip. I know its cheap but hey Im not made of money do good to get the money to go in the first place.

Deersniper · 02-06-2008, 09:22 PM

WELCOME! You will like it. They are very versatile, because of so many loads. I like my Mav 88! Nothing beats a S/G in the hallway. Glad you have some protection.
3 reasons to own a gun: To protect ones self and family, to get delicious food, and to keep King George out of your face.

Alleydude · 02-07-2008, 06:55 AM

Thanks again for the replies. So would you recommend shot or slugs for home protection? I'm thinking shot because of the spread, but that slug will put a hole in a brick wall, I'd think. Not much gonna walk away from getting hit with one of those.

GlennF · 02-07-2008, 01:15 PM

Try Remington "managed recoil" slugs. There is a lot less kick and they are effective on game.

GlockMeister · 02-07-2008, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleydude

Thanks again for the replies. So would you recommend shot or slugs for home protection? I'm thinking shot because of the spread, but that slug will put a hole in a brick wall, I'd think. Not much gonna walk away from getting hit with one of those.

Shot, with slugs you have to be concerned of them going through the walls and possibly hitting an innocent individual and the repercussions from it.

And Welcome to G&G. Lots to read and even more to learn.

G-Meister

Alleydude · 02-07-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Shot, with slugs you have to be concerned of them going through the walls and possibly hitting an innocent individual and the repercussions from it.
And Welcome to G&G. Lots to read and even more to learn.
G-Meister

Good thought. I will keep THAT in mind.

Thanks again for the warm welcome. I'm learning a lot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlennF

Try Remington "managed recoil" slugs. There is a lot less kick and they are effective on game.

Do I shoot them through the rifled barrel or the smooth barrel?

GlockMeister · 02-07-2008, 06:08 PM

You shouldn't shoot slugs out of a barrel with an internal choke, you'll blow it right out. Even if you were to take the choke off/out, I believe it ruins the threads.

The only barrels for slugs is rifled barrel or a smooth barrel with a cylinder choke not a smooth bore with a choke other then cylinder bore, I believe. I may be wrong, pretty sure I'm not but someone will correct me if I am so you get the right info...

G-Meister

M14man · 02-07-2008, 06:19 PM

I have heard that too, but my Ithaca 37 Riot is full choke,

OldTimer · 02-07-2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

The only barrels for slugs is rifled barrel or a smooth barrel with a cylinder choke not a smooth bore with a choke other then cylinder bore...

With all due respect G-Meister, you are wrong.

I've shot Winchester Super-X (Foster-type) slugs from my Moss'y 500 with the 28" front-bead field barrel in Modified choke. Rather accurate at 100 yds and consistently so. However the open (rifle) sights on the shorter slug barrel make sight picture and target acquistion much easier. Especially as regards the former.

In fact, the American Rifleman (NRA) magazine featured an article some years ago wherein it stated that some choke (up to modified?) was actually <i>beneficial</i> to Foster-type slug performance, if I remember correctly. And I assume I, too, will be corrected if <b>I</b> am wrong!

Alleydude,

Welcome to G&G!

I have 2 Moss'y 500 field/deer combos in 12 gauge (I inherited one from a brother when he married...

), and bought my son a 20 ga. combo last year when he turned 12. You got a good gun for the money, with lots of aftermarket accessories for your toy chest, if you so care.

With a modicum of care, it will serve you well for many years. Welcome to the forum.

Alleydude · 02-08-2008, 08:18 AM

Thanks again, everyone. I'm soaking this stuff up!

So here's one of my first newbie questions. I see Mossberg sells barrels, I was wondering if I can get a shorter barrel for home security for my 500. Looking though their list I'm not sure what to look for, or even if they make what I'm looking for for my gun. Can anyone offer some assistance?

PistolCity · 02-08-2008, 08:26 AM

They make a 18 or 18.5" smooth bore barrel, think it normaly sells for less than $100.

Alleydude · 02-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Like this one? (assuming the link works...)

Security Plain, Bead Sight, 12 Ga., 18 1/2", Cylinder Bore, Blue, SKU 90015

Just don't want to get the wrong thingie...

ArkansasHunter · 02-08-2008, 08:54 AM

I may mis-spell the name Alleydude but please check out this site.......
Havlin Sales & Service - Mossberg Gun Parts You'll be glad you did !...A.H

HOMEPAGE.22 RIFLE PARTSBOLT ACTION SHOTGUN PARTSCENTER-FIRE RIFLE PARTSMODERN SHOTGUN PARTSCLOSE-OUT BARRELSFINISH COLOR CHARTACCESSORIES / CHOKESTACTICAL ACCESSORIESREMINGTON® 870 ACCESSORIESCOLLECTIBLESWEB SPECIALSLINK TO MOSSBERG CORPORATEHOW TO ORDERCONTACT US

GlennF · 02-08-2008, 01:40 PM

Back to the subject of rifled slugs: The Foster type which is the same diameter as the bore shoots best with some choke. I have used a full choke gun with OK results. The Remington "managed recoil" slugs I was referring to are copper solid sabot type that are smaller than bore diameter encased in a plastic sleeve or "sabot". These are more accurate but only when fired in a rifled barrel.

02-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#1
Alleydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingsley, Michigan Posts: 118	New Guy with a Mossberg Hello all. New guy here, I just bought my first gun. I got a Mossberg 12 gauge field/deer combo. I figured it would have a pretty good kick, but the target shells didn't bother me too much. Then I tried some sabot rounds through the rifled barrel. Whoa, now THERE's some KICK! I'm not a hunter (yet, anyway) but wanted something for home protection. Now I'm looking at all kinds of guns, just because... You probably don't understand that (tongue in cheek). Anyway, thought I would introduce myself. I'm new to this gun thing. I look forward to reading up on all the different aspects of these things.

02-06-2008, 08:07 PM	#3
PistolCity Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 170	Welcome, one great thing about the Mossberg 500 is the accesories. You have a entire slew of aftermarket products readily available. Plus the gun itself is very easy to maintain. Hot loads like slugs, turkey loads, 00 buck will always provide more of a kick, even simi-hot loads such as your normal high brass shot shells will have more of a kick. But I'll promise you one thing, while at the shooting bench your going to say WHOA! When that day a deer, turkey or any other game your using a hot load on. You wont feel a thing. Im using the term hot loosly here. But get you some guns and ammo or any other type of gun magazine and you basic knowleddge will grow quickly. __________________ "You know its a hard hit when you see dirt fly off the back of the t.v.." - Reggie White

02-06-2008, 08:11 PM	#4
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,178 Blog Entries: 2	bunch Alleydude: Sir; there is a bunch who know about them Mossbergs here. Welcome and share your experiences. __________________ Craig May the Lord's face radiate with joy because of you. Numbers 6:24

02-06-2008, 08:37 PM	#6
Momoney567 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern tube Louisiana Posts: 208	Always warm in Louisiana =] Its never too cold to shoot a new gun. __________________ Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword never found automatic weapons.

02-06-2008, 08:38 PM	#7
PistolCity Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 170	I use to shoot sporting clays alots. And I love to rabbit hunt in snow or rain, if the holes are filled with water or snow there aint now where to go. My dad and I came up with a little slogan to go out and stand in a box to shoot clay. If your going to hunt in it, might as well play in it. Only time I hate shooting is when its extremely windy. Hard to get the targets up, and you should see all the neat tricks wind can put on clay! Especially a till station, a till station you stand behind a large wood plank that goes Id guess 10-12 ft up. The trapper sits behind it and the birds(clay) are thrown straight up about 20-25 ft or better. If you have good wind Ive seen those birds get blown behind you. Actually one time the guy that owned the course went out and closed the station because it was so bad. If you ever get a chance find a place and shoot around, I wont lie it can be expensive. You'll need 100 shells I always take at least a half box extra per round. So figure 20-25 dollars if you can find the 100ct boxes at wal-mart. Plus around here its about 25 dollars to shoot 1 round, plus its a unwritted code to tip the trapper normaly about $5 bucks. If you want to shoot more than 1 round, tell the trapper you want him again, might squeeze 2 rounds out for a $5 buck tip. I know its cheap but hey Im not made of money do good to get the money to go in the first place. __________________ "You know its a hard hit when you see dirt fly off the back of the t.v.." - Reggie White

02-06-2008, 08:04 PM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,912	Welcome to the World of some of the finest folks you'll ever meet, Gun Owners. And WELCOME to GUN and GAME a site where we can share our interest feller. Looking forward to seeing you around !!! Thanks for Joining...A.H

02-06-2008, 08:19 PM	#5
Alleydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingsley, Michigan Posts: 118	Thanks,all. I only wish this Michigan weather would cooperate and let me go out and shoot just a little more. It's FREAKIN' COLD out!

02-06-2008, 09:22 PM	#8
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,869	WELCOME! You will like it. They are very versatile, because of so many loads. I like my Mav 88! Nothing beats a S/G in the hallway. Glad you have some protection. 3 reasons to own a gun: To protect ones self and family, to get delicious food, and to keep King George out of your face.

02-07-2008, 06:55 AM	#9
Alleydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingsley, Michigan Posts: 118	Thanks again for the replies. So would you recommend shot or slugs for home protection? I'm thinking shot because of the spread, but that slug will put a hole in a brick wall, I'd think. Not much gonna walk away from getting hit with one of those.

02-07-2008, 01:15 PM	#10
GlennF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 31	Try Remington "managed recoil" slugs. There is a lot less kick and they are effective on game.

02-07-2008, 06:08 PM	#13
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,156	You shouldn't shoot slugs out of a barrel with an internal choke, you'll blow it right out. Even if you were to take the choke off/out, I believe it ruins the threads. The only barrels for slugs is rifled barrel or a smooth barrel with a cylinder choke not a smooth bore with a choke other then cylinder bore, I believe. I may be wrong, pretty sure I'm not but someone will correct me if I am so you get the right info... G-Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

02-07-2008, 06:19 PM	#14
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 538 Images: 10	I have heard that too, but my Ithaca 37 Riot is full choke,

02-08-2008, 08:18 AM	#16
Alleydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingsley, Michigan Posts: 118	Thanks again, everyone. I'm soaking this stuff up! So here's one of my first newbie questions. I see Mossberg sells barrels, I was wondering if I can get a shorter barrel for home security for my 500. Looking though their list I'm not sure what to look for, or even if they make what I'm looking for for my gun. Can anyone offer some assistance?

02-08-2008, 08:26 AM	#17
PistolCity Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 170	They make a 18 or 18.5" smooth bore barrel, think it normaly sells for less than $100. __________________ "You know its a hard hit when you see dirt fly off the back of the t.v.." - Reggie White

02-08-2008, 08:31 AM	#18
Alleydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingsley, Michigan Posts: 118	Like this one? (assuming the link works...) Security Plain, Bead Sight, 12 Ga., 18 1/2", Cylinder Bore, Blue, SKU 90015 Just don't want to get the wrong thingie...

02-08-2008, 08:54 AM	#19
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,912	I may mis-spell the name Alleydude but please check out this site....... Havlin Sales & Service - Mossberg Gun Parts You'll be glad you did !...A.H HOMEPAGE.22 RIFLE PARTSBOLT ACTION SHOTGUN PARTSCENTER-FIRE RIFLE PARTSMODERN SHOTGUN PARTSCLOSE-OUT BARRELSFINISH COLOR CHARTACCESSORIES / CHOKESTACTICAL ACCESSORIESREMINGTON® 870 ACCESSORIESCOLLECTIBLESWEB SPECIALSLINK TO MOSSBERG CORPORATEHOW TO ORDERCONTACT US

02-08-2008, 01:40 PM	#20
GlennF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 31	Back to the subject of rifled slugs: The Foster type which is the same diameter as the bore shoots best with some choke. I have used a full choke gun with OK results. The Remington "managed recoil" slugs I was referring to are copper solid sabot type that are smaller than bore diameter encased in a plastic sleeve or "sabot". These are more accurate but only when fired in a rifled barrel.