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HAWKEYE6MM · 02-07-2008, 10:32 PM

Muzzeloading Long Range, any thoughts???

ArkansasHunter · 02-07-2008, 10:34 PM

Go for it !!! And WELCOME to GUN and GAME feller !! Glad you Joined !...A.H

two-70 · 02-07-2008, 10:42 PM

welcome aboard, enjoy yourself

nathangdad · 02-08-2008, 08:25 AM

Muzzle loaders can throw a bullet a long way.
However, your idea of a long way may be different
than mine. I suggest you scope a good muzzle loader
and go to a range where you can experiment.
Note the heavy weights such as .50 and beyond
can really stabilize a bullet against wind drift effect
compared to the smaller calibers.

Anyway, good luck and good shooting in what can
be a very enjoyable type of shooting.

samuel · 02-08-2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAWKEYE6MM

Muzzeloading Long Range, any thoughts???

ML,s can be a lot of fun with any combo you come up with.Just dont wear your sunday go to meeting clothes.You mention long range.In Friendship,Indiana,they are having 1000yd matches so I guess the sky is the limit,but in my experience 100yds is long range. sam.

andrew cochran · 02-08-2008, 12:03 PM

If you want long range out of a muzzleloader with accurcy (i'm sure you want) You will want to use sabots or maybe some conicals. Make sure they are light bullets though. Use no less than 100 grains of powder! Good luck!
Welcome to Gun and Game!

Lng Rng · 02-08-2008, 01:32 PM

With a modern inline muzzle loader, shooting the right charge and bullet, with a scope, you can do some fairly long shots. 200 yards is about as far as you would want to go, and that is after you got comfortable with tour equiptment.

HAWKEYE6MM · 02-08-2008, 05:34 PM

Good Evening. As for equiptment, I am shooting a T/C ENCORE 50 cal using the VERIFLAME primer adapters that utilize a #4BR PRIMER. Currently I have a LEUPOLD 2X7X32 fixed paralax(75yds) scope. I use TRIPLE SEVEN loose powder at 80 grains. Within the next 30 days I will be changing the scope for a LEUPOLD 4.5X14X40 SF LONG RANGE VXIII w/VARMINTER RETICAL. You guys gotta try those primer adapters. They reduced my flash hole buildup considerably. For sabots, I am using T/Cs SHOCKWAVE 200gr poly tips.

petemi · 02-21-2008, 07:27 PM

The original Sharps killed buffalo up to a quaarter mile away. The Hawkens weren't far behind them. No telling how many they wounded first, but I imagine they could have found and finished them if they wanted to take the time. I firmly believe it isn't what the rifle will do, but the shooters understanding of what he can do with the load and rifle he's using. I get tired of people saying, for example, "A Hawken is a 100 yard rifle at best." I shoot to 300 yards with everything I own, because I own the range, even my Blackhawk revolver for fun. I can hit a small paper pie plate with our Hawkens at 300 yards, and with a bullet like the 470 gr. Maxi Hunter, it will fly true and dump a deer there too. I guess the bottom line is learn your rifle and the load it likes, and above all ....learn yourself.

jaeger · 02-21-2008, 11:33 PM

I am awaiting my CVA wolf........cheap POS i have been told. However shot my cousins Optima at 275 yds and kept a 5" pattern with a 250gr hornady sst. P.S. CVA wolf + $119 cabelas
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Sooner Shooter · 03-02-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeger

I am awaiting my CVA wolf........cheap POS i have been told. However shot my cousins Optima at 275 yds and kept a 5" pattern with a 250gr hornady sst. P.S. CVA wolf + $119 cabelas
.

Jaeger,
Being a little hard on that gun before you even get it aren't you! I don't know anything about the Wolf but I know with experimentation a so called bad shooting gun sometimes can turn in to a PGSG (pretty good shooting gun). Now if falls apart or you can't get it to shoot well it wasn't a big loss. When you get it and it does perform you'll probably owe it an apology! Have fun! SS

02-07-2008, 10:32 PM	#1
HAWKEYE6MM Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0)	I am new here. Muzzeloading Long Range, any thoughts???

02-07-2008, 10:42 PM	#3
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0)	welcome aboard, enjoy yourself __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

02-08-2008, 12:03 PM	#6
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	If you want long range out of a muzzleloader with accurcy (i'm sure you want) You will want to use sabots or maybe some conicals. Make sure they are light bullets though. Use no less than 100 grains of powder! Good luck! Welcome to Gun and Game! __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

02-07-2008, 10:34 PM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	Go for it !!! And WELCOME to GUN and GAME feller !! Glad you Joined !...A.H

02-08-2008, 08:25 AM	#4
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,251 Trader Rating: (0)	Define range . . . . Muzzle loaders can throw a bullet a long way. However, your idea of a long way may be different than mine. I suggest you scope a good muzzle loader and go to a range where you can experiment. Note the heavy weights such as .50 and beyond can really stabilize a bullet against wind drift effect compared to the smaller calibers. Anyway, good luck and good shooting in what can be a very enjoyable type of shooting.

02-08-2008, 01:32 PM	#7
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0)	With a modern inline muzzle loader, shooting the right charge and bullet, with a scope, you can do some fairly long shots. 200 yards is about as far as you would want to go, and that is after you got comfortable with tour equiptment.

02-08-2008, 05:34 PM	#8
HAWKEYE6MM Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0)	Good Evening. As for equiptment, I am shooting a T/C ENCORE 50 cal using the VERIFLAME primer adapters that utilize a #4BR PRIMER. Currently I have a LEUPOLD 2X7X32 fixed paralax(75yds) scope. I use TRIPLE SEVEN loose powder at 80 grains. Within the next 30 days I will be changing the scope for a LEUPOLD 4.5X14X40 SF LONG RANGE VXIII w/VARMINTER RETICAL. You guys gotta try those primer adapters. They reduced my flash hole buildup considerably. For sabots, I am using T/Cs SHOCKWAVE 200gr poly tips.

02-21-2008, 07:27 PM	#9
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 90 Trader Rating: (0)	The original Sharps killed buffalo up to a quaarter mile away. The Hawkens weren't far behind them. No telling how many they wounded first, but I imagine they could have found and finished them if they wanted to take the time. I firmly believe it isn't what the rifle will do, but the shooters understanding of what he can do with the load and rifle he's using. I get tired of people saying, for example, "A Hawken is a 100 yard rifle at best." I shoot to 300 yards with everything I own, because I own the range, even my Blackhawk revolver for fun. I can hit a small paper pie plate with our Hawkens at 300 yards, and with a bullet like the 470 gr. Maxi Hunter, it will fly true and dump a deer there too. I guess the bottom line is learn your rifle and the load it likes, and above all ....learn yourself.

02-21-2008, 11:33 PM	#10
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 263 Trader Rating: (0)	I am awaiting my CVA wolf........cheap POS i have been told. However shot my cousins Optima at 275 yds and kept a 5" pattern with a 250gr hornady sst. P.S. CVA wolf + $119 cabelas .