Bow Crossbow or Rifle

teenagegunwacho · 02-10-2008, 06:22 PM

I cant decide between a Takedown compound, an Enfield, or a cheap crossbow. What do yall think.

Cyrille · 02-10-2008, 06:39 PM

Me? Y'u talkin ta me? Y'u talkin ta me? Ok; I know very little about Compounds and less about cross bows, me I prefer a good ole yew long bow or a composite recurve or a composite Turkish horsebow such as the one used in "King Arthur" by I believe it was Tristan. Anyway wheelies ain't traditional so go for a proven weapon! Hope this helps

texnmidwest · 02-10-2008, 06:40 PM

Hmmm, welp what can you carry more of? Arrows for the bow, Bolts for the crossbow, or 303 shells. But then again. You can make arrows and bolts I guess. Hmm, I think I will stay here by the fire, drink whiskey and ponder that some.

firebird45331 · 02-11-2008, 04:52 AM

what kind of whiskey?

SwedeSteve · 02-11-2008, 05:27 AM

If you can master it, a take down recurve would be a quiet way to take game.

win39 · 02-11-2008, 06:11 AM

I like the noise.

SwedeSteve · 02-11-2008, 08:14 AM

I do as well win39, but in a survival situation, the less noise you make, the better!

damage855 · 02-11-2008, 09:30 AM

I have an older compond that i am pretty good with been wanting a cross bow but cant hunt with them in my state so havent dropped the cash yet. i have shot crossbows before they are an easier trasition for a rifleman in my opion.

samuel · 02-11-2008, 09:58 AM

While I can have a ball with bow or crossbow,I can hit much better with my rifle and the "bullets" dont cost nearly as much.Still,I must have all three,along with speers and slingshots. sam.

teenagegunwacho · 02-11-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

If you can master it, a take down recurve would be a quiet way to take game.

where can i get a good one for under 200$

SwedeSteve · 02-11-2008, 05:17 PM

For under $200, I can't say. They are usually pretty spendy. But, there used to be a pretty wicked kit by someone called a black widow...

teenagegunwacho · 02-11-2008, 05:27 PM

yeah i use to watch a movie i think it was called "Bucks from Above" 1 or 2. They used it on there

I found one(not a black widow but similiar) on this link Discount Hunting Gear, Discount Hunting Boots, Discount Shoes, Discount Ammunition, Discount Ammo, Discount Boots, Military Surplus, Outdoor Gear At the Sportsman's Guide
go to arcery..recurves..it is the next to last one.
what do yall think
what is brace height

Rye-man · 02-11-2008, 06:45 PM

Brace height is the distance from the string (while the bow is strung) to the riser.

You might check your local pawn shops for a good deal. Lots of times those guys don't know the value of bows and you can get a good one. (some of them do but most are into guns).

Big Dog · 02-11-2008, 07:10 PM

My local Gun&Pawn has several compound bows, even a couple left-handers.
I have two good recurves, one an older Bear TD45 take-down model. The other is a traditional laminated wood bow made in Korea - got it when I was into Renaissance Faire stuff.
Get the rifle, THEN try a bow. The rifle will serve as a good hunting/survival weapon, with less training needed. Bows have a much longer 'learning curve'.
Crossbows are illegal for hunting in a lot of places. They are also very specialised, and slow to reload. Not a good 'survival weapon', IMHO. A cheap crossbow will be worthless.

sunwheel29 · 10-02-2008, 10:19 AM

You can get a decent recurve for under $200. PSE makes some, including their budget priced "Kingfisher" bowfishing model. I think mine was under $100, as I bought it off Ebay.....

Three Rivers, Cabellas and other archery places have bargain longbows and recurves. Right now, Sportsmans Guide has a PSE longbowfor $199.

I would avoid a cheap crossbow for one simple reason. You get less than you pay for with stuff made in Vietnam....
Hovey Smith has a great book out called "Crossbow Hunting" that has informaton about one budget X-bow that turned out to be less than a bargain. You would be better off buying a used Horton or Barnett crossbow.

If the Enfield was not tampered with by home gunsmiths, it might be tempted, but for $200 I would go with the PSE longbow...

Rex in OTZ · 10-02-2008, 03:27 PM

History is very interesting Bow's are great for the amout of aimed shot that can be deliverd but require's allot of training to be really proficient, Cross bows were to equip troops with a more powerfull and accurate weapon without all the training required of long bowmen, earliest firearms were the hand Gone and the Matchlock for defeating body armor of the day, since most of the proposed targets would be un-armord a reversion to older tatictics would work Like a Bola, Boomerang, Dart gun

sunwheel29 · 10-02-2008, 06:43 PM

In days of old the reason it took so long to train the fine English longbowmen was because their bows had a 75-135 pound draw weight.

It was more a matter of building the strength and technique than anything else.

Up till two years ago I had not touched a bow in decades, since I was in college. I figured it would take me a long time to be able to hit the target again and maybe a year to get decent.
It took all of about three weeks.
Most of that was in developing shoulder strength to boot. Thing is, my recurve only had a 50 pound pull. I am sure if I was shooting a lonbow with twice that much draw weight it would have taken a long time to learn to shoot again.

02-10-2008, 06:22 PM	#1
teenagegunwacho Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The South Posts: 123	Bow Crossbow or Rifle I cant decide between a Takedown compound, an Enfield, or a cheap crossbow. What do yall think.

02-10-2008, 06:40 PM	#3
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,439	Hmmm, welp what can you carry more of? Arrows for the bow, Bolts for the crossbow, or 303 shells. But then again. You can make arrows and bolts I guess. Hmm, I think I will stay here by the fire, drink whiskey and ponder that some. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

02-11-2008, 05:27 AM	#5
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,346 Images: 1	If you can master it, a take down recurve would be a quiet way to take game. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-11-2008, 06:11 AM	#6
win39 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 201	I like the noise. __________________ Benny

02-11-2008, 08:14 AM	#7
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,346 Images: 1	I do as well win39, but in a survival situation, the less noise you make, the better! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-10-2008, 06:39 PM	#2
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,850	Me? Y'u talkin ta me? Y'u talkin ta me? Ok; I know very little about Compounds and less about cross bows, me I prefer a good ole yew long bow or a composite recurve or a composite Turkish horsebow such as the one used in "King Arthur" by I believe it was Tristan. Anyway wheelies ain't traditional so go for a proven weapon! Hope this helps

02-11-2008, 04:52 AM	#4
firebird45331 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 84	what kind of whiskey?

02-11-2008, 09:30 AM	#8
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 928 Blog Entries: 1	I have an older compond that i am pretty good with been wanting a cross bow but cant hunt with them in my state so havent dropped the cash yet. i have shot crossbows before they are an easier trasition for a rifleman in my opion. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

02-11-2008, 09:58 AM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	While I can have a ball with bow or crossbow,I can hit much better with my rifle and the "bullets" dont cost nearly as much.Still,I must have all three,along with speers and slingshots. sam.

02-11-2008, 05:17 PM	#11
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,346 Images: 1	For under $200, I can't say. They are usually pretty spendy. But, there used to be a pretty wicked kit by someone called a black widow... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-11-2008, 05:27 PM	#12
teenagegunwacho Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The South Posts: 123	yeah i use to watch a movie i think it was called "Bucks from Above" 1 or 2. They used it on there I found one(not a black widow but similiar) on this link Discount Hunting Gear, Discount Hunting Boots, Discount Shoes, Discount Ammunition, Discount Ammo, Discount Boots, Military Surplus, Outdoor Gear At the Sportsman's Guide go to arcery..recurves..it is the next to last one. what do yall think what is brace height Last edited by teenagegunwacho; 02-11-2008 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-11-2008, 06:45 PM	#13
Rye-man Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 93	Brace height is the distance from the string (while the bow is strung) to the riser. You might check your local pawn shops for a good deal. Lots of times those guys don't know the value of bows and you can get a good one. (some of them do but most are into guns). __________________ "A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

02-11-2008, 07:10 PM	#14
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,213	My local Gun&Pawn has several compound bows, even a couple left-handers. I have two good recurves, one an older Bear TD45 take-down model. The other is a traditional laminated wood bow made in Korea - got it when I was into Renaissance Faire stuff. Get the rifle, THEN try a bow. The rifle will serve as a good hunting/survival weapon, with less training needed. Bows have a much longer 'learning curve'. Crossbows are illegal for hunting in a lot of places. They are also very specialised, and slow to reload. Not a good 'survival weapon', IMHO. A cheap crossbow will be worthless. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-02-2008, 10:19 AM	#15
sunwheel29 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 76	You can get a decent recurve for under $200. PSE makes some, including their budget priced "Kingfisher" bowfishing model. I think mine was under $100, as I bought it off Ebay..... Three Rivers, Cabellas and other archery places have bargain longbows and recurves. Right now, Sportsmans Guide has a PSE longbowfor $199. I would avoid a cheap crossbow for one simple reason. You get less than you pay for with stuff made in Vietnam.... Hovey Smith has a great book out called "Crossbow Hunting" that has informaton about one budget X-bow that turned out to be less than a bargain. You would be better off buying a used Horton or Barnett crossbow. If the Enfield was not tampered with by home gunsmiths, it might be tempted, but for $200 I would go with the PSE longbow...

10-02-2008, 03:27 PM	#16
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 441	History is very interesting Bow's are great for the amout of aimed shot that can be deliverd but require's allot of training to be really proficient, Cross bows were to equip troops with a more powerfull and accurate weapon without all the training required of long bowmen, earliest firearms were the hand Gone and the Matchlock for defeating body armor of the day, since most of the proposed targets would be un-armord a reversion to older tatictics would work Like a Bola, Boomerang, Dart gun

10-02-2008, 06:43 PM	#17
sunwheel29 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 76	In days of old the reason it took so long to train the fine English longbowmen was because their bows had a 75-135 pound draw weight. It was more a matter of building the strength and technique than anything else. Up till two years ago I had not touched a bow in decades, since I was in college. I figured it would take me a long time to be able to hit the target again and maybe a year to get decent. It took all of about three weeks. Most of that was in developing shoulder strength to boot. Thing is, my recurve only had a 50 pound pull. I am sure if I was shooting a lonbow with twice that much draw weight it would have taken a long time to learn to shoot again.