CETME 308....good bad?

[sell33]

Ok, so i know I have been starting a lot of threads recently lol but i never seem to get it quite right. I am looking for a semi auto rifle, originally wanting an AR for the accuracy fact and i like the idea of switching uppers. BUT, i am the definition of a poor college student, so I have been looking around. I want to get a semi auto somewhat assault styled weapon soon (never know when they will be banned). I am somewhat interest in an Fal, but they are not cheap. while looking at these i have seen several CETME century arms rifles that look a lot like an FAL for a fraction of the price. obviously these are probably not as high of quality weapons as the fal, but i love the look of this one in the link. I guess what i am wondering is if any of you that own a cetme have many problems with them and also wondering about accuracy. Also is it easy to get a scope mounted on this type of gun? thanks for any info.

GunBroker.com guns: NIB CETME 308 Assault Rifle See Buy Now Ak 47 (item: 92192935 ends: Feb-25-08 10:02:57 PM)

[just_a_car]

Check out my long thread about my CETME from first purchase to current. Many pics, too... even the scope that's mounted: http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/g3-...-hold-out.html

I am not having the feeding problems at all anymore. I was the magazine springs.

Also, look at the other threads in this forum. Lots of info on these... don't forget to look back further than the forum sets it as. Down at the bottom you can set it back many years to see what's archived.

[LakerDad]

Sell33, that is a nice looking Cetme. I think you might find one cheaper. I saw a guy at a gun show with [4] starting at $475 up to $600. You can find mags at reasonible prices. You will want a sling, prices are 5 to ten bucks. Check out Just A Car's posts, he has a very nice setup and has good knowledge. A scope seems like a good thing to do. If you have the money and want to get a Battle Rifle/.308, then the one you have pictured would be nice. I don't think they will be getting cheaper. I got mine when they were at the lowest at $295.00 [plus taxes and dealer fees=$345]. Good luck finding the right weapon!!! That's just part of the fun.
[check to see if you can return the gun if not satisfied in case of a "bad" rifle]

[sell33]

Thanks for the info JAC i read the entire post lol. I am still kind of wondering about accuracy. I saw that you said you were mostly shooting at pretty short ranges. Lakerdad....yeah i know that seems a bit high i am just interested in one that looks like that. are there many different handguards and/or rails available? i would kind of like something with rails so i could maybe out a bipod and possible more on. Well anyway, do you have any idea what the accuracy would be say out to 300 yards or more? i would like to hunt varmint with whatever set up i end up with. I will definitely scope whatever rifle i get so that is not a question lol...

[just_a_car]

Yeah, I have yet to get a chance to let "Jessica" stretch her legs.

Here's where I got my scope mount: Hk Items And Accessories

As for parts, check these out: Cetme-Florida GunWorks
HK91 - G3-Florida GunWorks

Just remember that most G3 parts will fit on the CETME, including the forearm stock. And if it's rails you want, how's this?:

It's $149+shipping but I know when I have the money, it's going on my CETME! If you click the picture, you will go to the page that has some nice deals.
That aluminum will cool off the hot barrel a LOT better than the closed-in plastic handguard I have now.

[LakerDad]

sell33, I like the modern "plastic" stocks, but I still like guns w/wood stocks.
You should be able to find accessories at Tapco, Sportsman Guide, Cheaper Than Dirt or Gun Broker and many other outlets. I would need a scope to do that kind of shooting, the iron sights aren't that fine for my old eyes. JAC may give you a better out look from his.

[just_a_car]

Originally Posted by LakerDad

sell33, I like the modern "plastic" stocks, but I still like guns w/wood stocks.
You should be able to find accessories at Tapco, Sportsman Guide, Cheaper Than Dirt or Gun Broker and many other outlets. I would need a scope to do that kind of shooting, the iron sights aren't that fine for my old eyes. JAC may give you a better out look from his.

^---All excellent places to look for accessories! I know I check 'em all before buying one to make sure I'm getting the best deal.

As for shooting out to 300 meters, technically, the iron sights paddle from 100-200-300-400 meters, but my eyes (and I'm 26) aren't that good. If I'm shooting out past 100 yards (and even then) I'll use optics.

[meatloaf]

Originally Posted by sell33

Ok, so i know I have been starting a lot of threads recently lol but i never seem to get it quite right. I am looking for a semi auto rifle, originally wanting an AR for the accuracy fact and i like the idea of switching uppers. BUT, i am the definition of a poor college student, so I have been looking around. I want to get a semi auto somewhat assault styled weapon soon (never know when they will be banned). I am somewhat interest in an Fal, but they are not cheap. while looking at these i have seen several CETME century arms rifles that look a lot like an FAL for a fraction of the price. obviously these are probably not as high of quality weapons as the fal, but i love the look of this one in the link. I guess what i am wondering is if any of you that own a cetme have many problems with them and also wondering about accuracy. Also is it easy to get a scope mounted on this type of gun? thanks for any info.

GunBroker.com guns: NIB CETME 308 Assault Rifle See Buy Now Ak 47 (item: 92192935 ends: Feb-25-08 10:02:57 PM)

I own that same gun and I havnt had any troubles. The thing is to clean the hell out of it and use oil sparingly. Also I havnt been able to mount a scope on it succesfuly which is disheartening, but it is a kickass shooter. Also dont even think about reloading the ejection force this gun puts a shell through destroys it. Im thinking about trading mine in on an upgrade PSG-1 clone since I cant get a scope to mount. Plus I already have an AK which has the same range as the CETME ( the 308 round will fly farther but the cetme platform itsself isnt made to)

[sell33]

. Plus I already have an AK which has the same range as the CETME ( the 308 round will fly farther but the cetme platform itsself isnt made to)[/quote]

K so the range of the 308 is good i know that, but the CETME isn't meant for this kind of long range? in that case i will probably go for the AR platform, which honestly i would probably prefer, but something abotu the look of the cetme just makes me want one bad lol. same with the FN but they can be real pricey, well not much more than an AR. I really want an accurate gun for some pretty long range shooting though so i will see what deals i can find i guess.

[john46953]

CETME .308! Excellent piece of weaponry! Contact my brother, Sean46953 he happens to own one with a scope. It is beautiful. Very stylish, and looks pissed as hell. He could also answer any questions you may have. Trust me. lol.

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[LakerDad]

That's neat, Thanks JAC, I had heard of Cope before but didn't know about these, sell33 would like that forearm.
Meatloaf is right, the fluting design in the chamber causes the spent round a lot of stress with the flutes in the cases. They go in nice and bright and come out black and "ugly". No reloading! Nice brass turns to junk.
I'm hoping that I can at least hit a 6" plate at 250 yards. At least my AK was doing that off hand, but my eyes are 54 years old now. I guess I need to get my .30-06 bolt gun out to make me feel better.
One note, I really like the recoil on my Cetme, don't kick much at all, is that how the rest of you think??? Cetme was designed to reduce the felt recoil.

[john46953]

are u kidding. the CETME my brother owns will buck your shoulder all to hell. A VERY powerful recoil.

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The objective men, is not to die for your country, but make those stupid bastards die for theirs instead!!!

[sell33]

Yeah i do like the look of htat handguard with the rail. Lakerdad, if you get out and shoot out to 250 yards or more let me know how it goes. Like I said accuracy needs to be top of the line for me, well i would like ti to be lol i like a gun that can shoot better than me lol

[Don357]

If you want "sniper" MOA accuracy from a CETME style rifle you need a PTR-91, but you also need an armored car full of money. However if you want "designated shooter" accuracy the CAI CETME will suffice.(usually) Mounting a scope is not really a problem if you get the right mount. I used a Tapco dual rail SWAT mount, and once I figured out about the set screws and how to use them I have had no problems. I use mine for deer hunting and have no worries about making a 300yd shot. Somewhere in prior postings is a few pics of my Spanish/American Lady. Remember, ammo plays a big part in accuracy too. I use Lake City 168gr BTHP for hunting in my CETME.

[LakerDad]

john46953, there's a buffer assembly in the stock between it and the rear plate housing [check the figure 16 from the www.hk94.com/g3-rifle.php] Your brother's rifle may have the retractable butt stock which will not have the buffer. I guess this buffer could malfunction??? Not sure.
Thanks Don357, I'll have to check out the Tapco mounts, like JAC, I get their mailings, I'll have to start my wish list! Nice set up too, I remember seeing your posts! It's cool to see these guns in movies, on the news, etc.

[john46953]

no, it has the buffer, but the recoil spring has seperated from the buffer but has not effected the recoil. IT STILL BUCKS LIKE A MULE!!

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[sell33]

Originally Posted by Don357

If you want "sniper" MOA accuracy from a CETME style rifle you need a PTR-91, but you also need an armored car full of money. However if you want "designated shooter" accuracy the CAI CETME will suffice.(usually) Mounting a scope is not really a problem if you get the right mount. I used a Tapco dual rail SWAT mount, and once I figured out about the set screws and how to use them I have had no problems. I use mine for deer hunting and have no worries about making a 300yd shot. Somewhere in prior postings is a few pics of my Spanish/American Lady. Remember, ammo plays a big part in accuracy too. I use Lake City 168gr BTHP for hunting in my CETME.

Glad too hear i can get decent accuracy out of them. I know most ARs are accurate thats why i originally planned on one, but now it is a toss up. I suppose as soon as i have the money saved up and get to a gun show i will probably pick up the best deal i can get ahold of. I really do not want to have to invest a ton of money into this thing though so i might just go with AR that is more friendly to the idea of mounting a scope, bipod, etc. Not sure yet ill keep researching thanks for everyones input.

[just_a_car]

LakerDad, I too have found that the recoil on the CETME is extremely light for a .308Win rifle. I had the opportunity to shoot another guy's Bushmaster M4 at the range while shooting my CETME and found the recoil to be very similar... a .308Win that feels like a .223Rem!

Plus, I have the TAPCO T-6 stock, so that's not the issue. It could be that something's wrong with that gun. I shoot mosin nagants and the recoil of the CETME compared to those is minuscule at best.

[Big Dog]

Go easy and very carefully with .308 Win!! I have had and seen cases ripped in half! These rifles have a brutal extraction and ejection which demands the use of stronger military brass. Use 7.62X51 surplus if you do a lot of shooting. It does NOT have to be specifically 'NATO' spec - this rifle's system is very forgiving of pressure/velocity differences - the cases are the weak point in commercial loads.
I find the recoil fairly light too - certainly less than an M1 Garand, comparing my Spanish Lady to my buddy's two Garands. She's a good deal louder than the M1s though! Gotta love the Century Arms 'Muzzle Blast Enhancer'!

[meatloaf]

Please dont let my critiq of my cetme discourage you from buying one. Its a good gun. I like the style and recoil is nill. Iwas just trying to be honest and after reading my own post a few days later it realy seems negative. I want to say that I like the platform so much that I am going to up grade to a PTR-91. Which is almost the same gun just built with top of the line materials. I do like my spanish lady and im going to try to keep her and buy the PTR-91 but if I cant I am going to use her as a trade. By the way i named her issabel. She is very sexy in a evil viscious viper sort of way lol.

besides it would also be great to have another comrad in the cetme forum.