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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington
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| Whats in your survival/battle pack? In the event of a enemy attack on the us or what ever country you call home what would you put in your pack? for my my kit would have my mosin-nagant m44 rifle with bayonet 10 5 round stiper clips ruger 10/22 carbine 1, 10 round mag for 10/22 1 25 round mag for 10/22 1 30 round mag for 10/22 about 1200 .22 long rifle rounds 300 7.62X54R fmj rounds 1 50 pound draw pistol crossbow 36 metal 6.5 inch cross bow bolts 3 throwing knifes in a wrist sheath 1 combat knife with 5 inch blade 1 3.5 inch boot knife 1 first aid kit 1 small hatchet. 2 bottles of water a couple high cal survival bars 1 survival blanket 2 complete gun cleaning kits and a back pack to hold it all in I am also going to be adding a bow to my kit soon. I enjoy bow hunting and a bow fires quietly like a cross bow and much faster lol. I have actually tested this kit it works well for me. This is more or less what I take with me when I go camping. I make a shelter out of trees and branches that makes a nice home away from home thats protects and can be made in any wilderness. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
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| It would probably be wise to have a go bag and back pack packed and ready, having to only fill canteens/water jugs and fresh food you can be ready in a couple of minutes!If you have like minded friends/family a staging area would be nice were you can all meet and take it from there.If every thing your taking is on your back? I would try to bring at least enough food water to last at least 3 days, If you have a p/u with a canopy some of your gear can be stored in there minmizing your time loading your truck?also more food water and gas can be stored. Last edited by mym1a; 01-26-2008 at 07:26 PM. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami, Fl.
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| I have to ask. How do you start a fire? How do you collect and purify water? How do you cook food? You have 20 items listed, including the backpack, 13 of them are weapons or ammo and that's not including the hatchet and gun cleaning kits. It takes more than just a bunch of weapons to survive. I see no change of clothes, especially socks, I see no inclement weather gear. Talk to some guys that have been in the military and ask them what they used in the field. You can die from dysentery just like you can from a bullet. Hope I didn't come off as to much of an a-hole but I don't want to see anyone go out unprepared. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina
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| Some things do need to be added and some things can probably be sacrificed. ie. the throwing knives are not very practical and the pistol crossbow: I can speak from firsthand experience, that is good for no more than punching holes in styrophome. Everything else seems useful, yet I'm unsure how you manage to securely carry two long guns.
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| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas
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| A pack of cigeretts and water proff matches !!! lmao...A.H |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina
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| Isn't it past your bed time, AH?
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| spiritual counselor ![]() ![]() | i think he waited till the woman of the house thought he was asleep ,then snuck down to the computer room. SSHHHHH! it's a secret!
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa"
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| Credit card? My wife could never survive anywhere without it. Seriously, how much does all that weigh? Purely hypothetically, why do you need it? I'd just go for basics; rifle, say 6 mags, pistol & couple of spare mags, one or two pairs of socks, good boots, bivy bag, firestarting kit, mess tin, water bottle & sterilising tabs, DEET(depends where you are but never goes wrong) small flashlight, basic rifle cleaning kit, first aid kit. KISS principle. Maybe 8-12 lbs in belt packs, max 30lbs in back pack. |
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| Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I'm a troll in MI
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| Yes i have to agree as others have said. It is my opinion you are going a lil heavy on the guns and knives in your pack. In all survival situations you need to get back to basics. Food, water, fire, shelter, and protection. Food is more thn just hunting and a hi calorie bar. invest in a survival book with pictures of plants and animals that show what you can eat. water is either purification tabs, still making supploes or one of those fancy filtering devices. shelter needs to be more then just a couple of trees on the ground. it is a good start and will protect you, but you won't be comfortable for long. Throw in a few more emergency blankets, they are nice to have extras. Fire is obtainable by many methods. I would prefer to use the matches or lighter last that way i could use them and remain profecient in fire starting. you can get those magnesium starters real cheap just about anywhere. Carry some dry tinder or something that will cath fire easily. ( I like hand sanitizer as it fills 2 roles at once) Protection isn't just about who has the better gun and who can shoot straight. Can you use the terrain to keep you away from any trouble? If you get into trouble will you be able to here it coming? The best survival kit is the one that rests on your shoulders. Try to keep it. |
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| Member Join Date: Jan 2008
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| I can honestly say that most of the gear on this list is more bulk than usefulness. Here are some thoughts on the gear based on what I would do with the same kit were it given to me to change: 1: Mosin Nagant M44- good choice in portability, being the carbine model, just not so much for ammo availability. It's a good old rifle, can take a beating like nobody's business, but you won't be able to find rounds for it in places like walmart and the like. (and you would definitely want some jsp bullets for it, since fmj will let your deer, (insert any other animal here) run quite a ways before it goes down because of the lack of expansion, and you don't want that at all. 2: 10/22 is also an all right choice, but the extended magazines (especially over 20-rounds) can and will snag and pop out on trees, straps on your pack, what have you. It is best to just have a few Factory ten round mags to rely on, since they fit flush with the bottom of the rifle. 3: Lose the crossbow. If you're going to get a real bow, go ahead and pop for one of the good take-down recurves or longbows with about #55-#60 on the draw and two extra bowstrings. You won't have access to screws, cams, and other parts like that on the run, so it's best to just eliminate the need for them. You'll also want two dozen arrows, cut, nocked, balanced, and fitted with the proper heads. And by the proper heads, I mean the Wensel Woodsman broadhead. It's niiiiice. 4: Knives. Underestimated and overlooked, easily the most important part of your equipment. You can get by almost without everything else but your knife, since you can make most anything using it and fire. Therefore, you should be as careful selecting it as you are for a rifle. (Lose the throwing knives.) And I'll bet that the 5-inch one you have is one of the 'pilot survival knives', and the boot knife has one of those 'real leather sheaths'. Lose them. If you want a really well-made knife, go to a good brand company like Cold Steel or Tops. Out of cold steel I would say the Recon Scout or Recon Tanto and the Ultimate hunter. Or, Tops has the Tom Brown Tracker Knife, which has a flat saw on the back of the blade for cutting perfect notches, a swept-up skinning edge, a bone-breaker/drawknife edge, and the small-of-the-back side draw sheath. I would supplement that one with the Scout, which is also Tom Brown, Jr's design, but it's smaller, better built for camp chores and skinning smaller animals. There is too much emphasis on meat here. You can't live on protein alone, you need fiber, so you'll have to learn more about plants, not just buy a book. I can't tell you how many perfectly edible plants have qualities that look just like deadly plants that grow in the same places. It is imperative to learn the differences. I also couldn't tell you how many pilots and plain old john and jane does died of starvation in crashes and getting lost surrounded by wild edibles. And don't forget about water. It's even more important than food. Did you know you can take a big sponge with you, get up before dawn, and collect the dew from the ground and leaves? Can you make a solar still? Do you know how to make a filter for muddy water? There are an infinite number of questions to ask yourself in a survival situation. There should never be a point where you stop thinking. Wow. Kind of a rant, almost, huh? At least I caught myself running! And maybe somebody learned something, anyways..... |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia, Canada
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| "Blazing Saddles" GOV ![]() Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI
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| Essentials should be food (MRE's), an extreme first aid kit, medicines, tarp, communications, wire for trapping, fishing line and hooks, an Alice pack, 2qt canteen for water only, small (military) shovel, hand wipes and a wool blanket (you know, the army wool blanket). As for clothing, poly pros, a few full changes and two pairs of shoes with waterproof socks. For hunting and signaling, a combination gun 12GA and .22LR with an appropriate amount of ammo for survival, not a firefight. Realistically, it depends on where you are geographically to determine exactly what you will need for clothing and additional supplies. mitch_mckee is correct, you will have to carry this so I advise to travel light. Most other things can be pilfered along the way as needed. We're talking survival, bare essentials, not gearing up for the airbone Reds. |
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| Member Join Date: Jan 2008
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| Well since most of enemy's out there use the AK-47 or the 7.62 X 39 I would grab a AK, and maybe a sniper, nothing to fancy. I could easily live off enemy ammo. A KA-BAR, dig a well + water purification kit, just in case well goes dry. Also a few years ago I found out how to make some pretty effective home made grenades, really simple to make too I live in a small city (10,000), but I am close to cleveland so really, looters from the inner city coming to mine would be the main threat if they lost food supply or what ever. Then I would try to call up all the Class III license guys around me :P |
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| Senior Member | newhunterette LarryO1979: Sir; your pack and my pack would be about the same only to add the Space Age wrap/blanket. Maybe through in a hammock. Then ; Sir, The "newhunterette" yum-eee, ![]() Don't have a man to pack: can't do it right ![]()
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fraser Valley, British Columbia, Canada
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