c&r license?

pajaro · 02-26-2008, 01:33 AM

i just went on the batfe website and tried to find out how to get an application form and couldnt find any helpful info..... anyone know any concrete info on how to do this? im starting to look at a number of very old and fairly expensive riles and if i could save transfer and storage fees it would save me about $65.00 / each purchase, MAKES SENSE TO ME...... does it make any difference that i live in california? will the c&r license be of practical use to me in this state?

Righteous · 02-26-2008, 09:23 PM

Distribution Center Order Form

take about a week to recieve the app

SwedeSteve · 02-29-2008, 01:43 PM

Also go to: Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com and click on the C&R link to the left. Lots of great info there.

Paper · 02-29-2008, 07:58 PM

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does it make any difference that i live in california? will the c&r license be of practical use to me in this state?

I know there's some pretty heavy restrictions as a Cali resident.. Hopefully some other's in CA can answer that question completely..

SwedeSteve · 03-01-2008, 09:56 AM

Call your local ATFE office and ask.

.22guy · 03-01-2008, 01:04 PM

I'm in CA and have a C&R. I'm far from an expert, but I have spent a lot of time researching the subject and know a lot about it.

Basically, a C&R means you can have long guns that are 50 years or older shipped to your door. That's about it. Let me number some information.

1. No pistols, those have to be shipped to an 01 FFL dealer.
2. No assault weapons or anything otherwise illegal.
3. It does not mean you can walk into a gun shop and skip the paperwork, fees or 10 day wait (you can also get a certificate of eligibility COE but that is expensive, have to be fingerprinted and such, and only lasts 1 year.) Even with C&R and a COE you still have to do DROS, but you can skip the 10 day wait.
4. You can buy a long gun that is 50 years or older from a regular citizen in CA with no paperwork. (but from a dealer the paperwork and all that crap must be done.) Lots of people are confused on that point. It's a stupid rule, but it is the law.
5. You must log any and all C&R long guns you get while you have the C&R license, even if you buy it from Bob at the gun show. Some argue that you aren't "using" your C&R because that would legal whether or not you had the license. But don't forget that "YOU" are licensed.

So the main advantage of a C&R license in CA is that you can get 50 year old rifles or shotguns mailed directly to your door.

My wife and I call it the "get-greasy-old-guns-shipped-to-your-door-and-make-your-wife-want-to-kill-you license."

Righteous · 03-02-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

My wife and I call it the "get-greasy-old-guns-shipped-to-your-door-and-make-your-wife-want-to-kill-you license."

LOL Now thats funny

pajaro · 03-03-2008, 01:58 AM

hey .22 guy and swede steve.... thats all good info..... that saves the dealer storage fees if c&r's are bought out of state or shipped from out of state into california...... thanks for all the info......

R5CYA · 03-15-2008, 08:07 PM

my local dealer said the one problem with it is that you sign away your right to keep the doj and atf out of your place without a warrant. doesn't worry me much but i don't have any illegal guns in my house.

Righteous · 03-15-2008, 10:51 PM

thats what I say, dont worry me I aint hiding anything

SwedeSteve · 03-16-2008, 10:36 AM

You are welcome! Glad to help...

02-26-2008, 01:33 AM	#1
pajaro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: newcastle, california Posts: 157	c&r license? i just went on the batfe website and tried to find out how to get an application form and couldnt find any helpful info..... anyone know any concrete info on how to do this? im starting to look at a number of very old and fairly expensive riles and if i could save transfer and storage fees it would save me about $65.00 / each purchase, MAKES SENSE TO ME...... does it make any difference that i live in california? will the c&r license be of practical use to me in this state? Last edited by pajaro; 02-26-2008 at 01:37 AM. Reason: further clarification

02-29-2008, 01:43 PM	#3
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,161 Images: 1	Also go to: Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com and click on the C&R link to the left. Lots of great info there. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-01-2008, 09:56 AM	#5
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,161 Images: 1	Call your local ATFE office and ask. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-01-2008, 01:04 PM	#6
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,432	I'm in CA and have a C&R. I'm far from an expert, but I have spent a lot of time researching the subject and know a lot about it. Basically, a C&R means you can have long guns that are 50 years or older shipped to your door. That's about it. Let me number some information. 1. No pistols, those have to be shipped to an 01 FFL dealer. 2. No assault weapons or anything otherwise illegal. 3. It does not mean you can walk into a gun shop and skip the paperwork, fees or 10 day wait (you can also get a certificate of eligibility COE but that is expensive, have to be fingerprinted and such, and only lasts 1 year.) Even with C&R and a COE you still have to do DROS, but you can skip the 10 day wait. 4. You can buy a long gun that is 50 years or older from a regular citizen in CA with no paperwork. (but from a dealer the paperwork and all that crap must be done.) Lots of people are confused on that point. It's a stupid rule, but it is the law. 5. You must log any and all C&R long guns you get while you have the C&R license, even if you buy it from Bob at the gun show. Some argue that you aren't "using" your C&R because that would legal whether or not you had the license. But don't forget that "YOU" are licensed. So the main advantage of a C&R license in CA is that you can get 50 year old rifles or shotguns mailed directly to your door. My wife and I call it the "get-greasy-old-guns-shipped-to-your-door-and-make-your-wife-want-to-kill-you license." __________________ My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office.

03-16-2008, 10:36 AM	#11
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,161 Images: 1	You are welcome! Glad to help... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-26-2008, 09:23 PM	#2
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214	Distribution Center Order Form take about a week to recieve the app

03-03-2008, 01:58 AM	#8
pajaro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: newcastle, california Posts: 157	hey .22 guy and swede steve.... thats all good info..... that saves the dealer storage fees if c&r's are bought out of state or shipped from out of state into california...... thanks for all the info......

03-15-2008, 08:07 PM	#9
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 767	my local dealer said the one problem with it is that you sign away your right to keep the doj and atf out of your place without a warrant. doesn't worry me much but i don't have any illegal guns in my house.

03-15-2008, 10:51 PM	#10
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214	thats what I say, dont worry me I aint hiding anything