PT940 acted up during carry class

MrsS · 03-01-2008, 10:07 PM

My husband and I had our carry class and once again my husband experienced failure of his casings to eject! This time for him, it was occuring every 3rd shot or so. It delayed our ranging shooting a bit and to make up for the time he lost unjamming the gun, he had to hurry and basically shoot consecutively and rapidly. He did well, though, and passed his range test. The instructor shot off about 5 rounds without difficulty. We had a gunsmith there look at it and determined that nothing was wrong with any of the components. Advice there was the same as on the posts here....try different ammo! That is going to be his next step, but given that the instructor shot 5 rounds and I shot 10 without difficulty, he can't help but to wonder if it has something to do with how he is holding it or aiming it. Overall, he still likes the taurus, but I think that will change if this problem continues.

just_a_car · 03-01-2008, 11:49 PM

I've heard other cases where other people have had that kind of problem and people on the forum have suggested that the shooter was "limp-wristing."

Gordo1 · 03-05-2008, 06:14 PM

I had axsimilar problem with my PT 940.
It ended up to be a magazine failure.
It took 2 replacements from Taurus to fix the propblem.
Now everything works fine.
Want to buy my PT 940.
I will sell it in a minute.
My Springfield XD 9 SC is twice the gun.
Gordo

Mr.S · 03-05-2008, 08:19 PM

Thanks for the info. I was just wondering how a magazine failure would cause an empty casing to not eject.. the new bullet would jam the casing from behind as if the empty casing never moved..again thanks for the info. something else to take a look into.

squirrelbaster · 03-05-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_a_car

I've heard other cases where other people have had that kind of problem and people on the forum have suggested that the shooter was "limp-wristing."

this was my first thought to, +1

Mr.S · 03-05-2008, 08:30 PM

How firm do I need to hold the grip to prevent this limp wristing? I have my wrist & elbows locked when I fire. Could that be the problem?

just_a_car · 03-05-2008, 08:56 PM

Having them locked should prevent limp-wristing, so I doubt it's that. Though, since the other person shot it without issue, you should try to analyze what each of you is doing differently and see if there's something you're doing that's causing the jams.

neophyte · 03-05-2008, 09:24 PM

MrsS: Ma'am; the phenomenon: limp wristing; is one of the issues with lighter weight handguns.
Can it be fixed? Yes.
Imagine; both hands out front with a firm strong grip.

Not squeezing the life out of the handle just firm and strong grip. Creating the isosceles triangle; with firm but not strong 'elbows';

Shoulders, and Body forward attacking the target. This takes away the cushion that cause failure to eject.

Leaning back, mushy stance, mushy hands will all cause failure to eject.

It doesn't matter the shooters age, strength, dexterity, tall or short.

If this doesn't fix the problem, you have a problem firearm. I wouldn't tolerate a firearm that was picky about what it eat.

Only exception is the .22's.

I might be trusting my life to something that I haven't total confidence.

Another resort: Have an experienced Semi Auto shooter shoot yours. fill it several times and see if this continues. Should they have problems:

Send it back to the Manufacturer and get it fixed.

Ma'am I hope this helps. Report back with any question or questions
Also do a range report. Thanks, Craig

03-01-2008, 10:07 PM	#1
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 16th state. Posts: 1,930	PT940 acted up during carry class My husband and I had our carry class and once again my husband experienced failure of his casings to eject! This time for him, it was occuring every 3rd shot or so. It delayed our ranging shooting a bit and to make up for the time he lost unjamming the gun, he had to hurry and basically shoot consecutively and rapidly. He did well, though, and passed his range test. The instructor shot off about 5 rounds without difficulty. We had a gunsmith there look at it and determined that nothing was wrong with any of the components. Advice there was the same as on the posts here....try different ammo! That is going to be his next step, but given that the instructor shot 5 rounds and I shot 10 without difficulty, he can't help but to wonder if it has something to do with how he is holding it or aiming it. Overall, he still likes the taurus, but I think that will change if this problem continues.

03-01-2008, 11:49 PM	#2
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,742	I've heard other cases where other people have had that kind of problem and people on the forum have suggested that the shooter was "limp-wristing." __________________ CETME Owners Group - Founder AK-47 owners Group - Member The Mosin Men Group - Member

03-05-2008, 08:56 PM	#7
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,742	Having them locked should prevent limp-wristing, so I doubt it's that. Though, since the other person shot it without issue, you should try to analyze what each of you is doing differently and see if there's something you're doing that's causing the jams. __________________ CETME Owners Group - Founder AK-47 owners Group - Member The Mosin Men Group - Member

03-05-2008, 09:24 PM	#8
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,811 Blog Entries: 2	Ma'am for Considerations MrsS: Ma'am; the phenomenon: limp wristing; is one of the issues with lighter weight handguns. Can it be fixed? Yes. Imagine; both hands out front with a firm strong grip. Not squeezing the life out of the handle just firm and strong grip. Creating the isosceles triangle; with firm but not strong 'elbows'; Shoulders, and Body forward attacking the target. This takes away the cushion that cause failure to eject. Leaning back, mushy stance, mushy hands will all cause failure to eject. It doesn't matter the shooters age, strength, dexterity, tall or short. If this doesn't fix the problem, you have a problem firearm. I wouldn't tolerate a firearm that was picky about what it eat. Only exception is the .22's. I might be trusting my life to something that I haven't total confidence. Another resort: Have an experienced Semi Auto shooter shoot yours. fill it several times and see if this continues. Should they have problems: Send it back to the Manufacturer and get it fixed. Ma'am I hope this helps. Report back with any question or questions Also do a range report. Thanks, Craig __________________ Craig May the Lord's face radiate with joy because of you. Numbers 6:24

03-05-2008, 06:14 PM	#3
Gordo1 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 28	I had axsimilar problem with my PT 940. It ended up to be a magazine failure. It took 2 replacements from Taurus to fix the propblem. Now everything works fine. Want to buy my PT 940. I will sell it in a minute. My Springfield XD 9 SC is twice the gun. Gordo

03-05-2008, 08:19 PM	#4
Mr.S Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 45	Thanks for the info. I was just wondering how a magazine failure would cause an empty casing to not eject.. the new bullet would jam the casing from behind as if the empty casing never moved..again thanks for the info. something else to take a look into.

03-05-2008, 08:30 PM	#6
Mr.S Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 45	How firm do I need to hold the grip to prevent this limp wristing? I have my wrist & elbows locked when I fire. Could that be the problem?