questions about an m1

Jeremyb · 03-07-2008, 09:06 PM

Hello everyone, i have a couple of questions about my m1 and im hoping for some help. I recently came across an m1 from my father who got it from his father who served in wwII. This gun is in excellent shape and seems to be all original. It still has the original oil and cleaning kit in it. It is an h&r arms with serial #4664387 the barrel says hra d6535448 10-52. can anyone tell me anything about this rifle, including an estimate, although it will not be sold since it was my grandfathers but i dont know if he used this one in service or not. what is the best ammo to shoot out of this rifle? i know nothing about m1's only about my m4. Thanks

Righteous · 03-07-2008, 09:55 PM

as for the ammo get some of that greek surplus CMP is selling, shoots great in it, dont shoot modern ammo in it tho, as for the rest I'll let somebody else comment becuase I just got my M1 other day, Post pick of it , would like to see it
Welcome to the site as well

M14man · 03-07-2008, 10:24 PM

Obviously if your grandfather was in WW2 and not in the Korean war, then he could not have used that rifle. The receiver being made 52-53. The value depends on whether or not the rifle has any non HR parts. It shouldn't, but without an inspection, that part remains in question. If it is in 'excellent' shape, and if it is al H&R, value could be near $1000.You should only use military m2 ball, or reloads that use 4895 powder or similar speed, and a bullet weight of 147 to 173 grain. If it is not all H&R value would drop by several hundred dollars.

kygunsmith · 03-07-2008, 10:33 PM

If it is unaltered from its 50's birth it is fairy valuable. IF, too, grandad could document his use of this garand in Korea, and provide other associated photos and doc's it is really valuable!

Orlando · 03-07-2008, 10:45 PM

If its unaltered from its 50's birth and perfect condition its worth $1000.00 tops. I doubt your Grandfather used it in service unless he found a way to smuggle it home. Not unheard of in WWII but not normal and really unusual for Korean War Era. More than likely he purchased it from DCM or CMP or elsewhere here in the states

GlockMeister · 03-07-2008, 10:50 PM

I'd just like to chime in with my 2 cents strictly to say hello and welcome to G&G.

lefty o · 03-08-2008, 12:30 AM

definately not WWII rifle.

Dookiebutt · 03-08-2008, 08:09 AM

It sounds like a great rifle. Let's see some pictures.

Jeremyb · 03-08-2008, 01:47 PM

Thanks guys for all the help, and for welcoming me into g&g. I wish i could ask my grandfather more about the history of this rifle but he passed on 5yrs ago. I talked to my father about this and he said he dont know much since my gramps was not much for words just action. He said my grandfather served from 1941 till the 60's and saw action on the frontlines in wwII and was in korea but saw limited combat there. He knows he had this rifle since the 50's cause my father learned to shoot it when he was 10 in 1959. It has been stored at grampas house and then my fathers until recently when he gave it to me. i cant wait till my ammo arrives so i can take this baby to the range. Thanks for the help guys.

ggordon · 03-08-2008, 08:32 PM

About a year ago, the CMP was selling "collector grade" H+R Garands of Korean war vintage for $1400.00 Of course, these were in very fine condition with all matching components.

oldjarhead · 03-15-2008, 03:33 AM

Jeremyb,
If you are the third generation within your family to own the old war-horse then it is priceless; an absolute heirloom. I would guess Gramps got it from the old DCM. I think we all would like to see photos.

03-07-2008, 09:06 PM	#1
Jeremyb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	questions about an m1 Hello everyone, i have a couple of questions about my m1 and im hoping for some help. I recently came across an m1 from my father who got it from his father who served in wwII. This gun is in excellent shape and seems to be all original. It still has the original oil and cleaning kit in it. It is an h&r arms with serial #4664387 the barrel says hra d6535448 10-52. can anyone tell me anything about this rifle, including an estimate, although it will not be sold since it was my grandfathers but i dont know if he used this one in service or not. what is the best ammo to shoot out of this rifle? i know nothing about m1's only about my m4. Thanks

03-07-2008, 10:45 PM	#5
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 642	If its unaltered from its 50's birth and perfect condition its worth $1000.00 tops. I doubt your Grandfather used it in service unless he found a way to smuggle it home. Not unheard of in WWII but not normal and really unusual for Korean War Era. More than likely he purchased it from DCM or CMP or elsewhere here in the states Last edited by Orlando; 03-07-2008 at 10:54 PM.

03-07-2008, 10:50 PM	#6
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,158	I'd just like to chime in with my 2 cents strictly to say hello and welcome to G&G. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-07-2008, 09:55 PM	#2
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214	as for the ammo get some of that greek surplus CMP is selling, shoots great in it, dont shoot modern ammo in it tho, as for the rest I'll let somebody else comment becuase I just got my M1 other day, Post pick of it , would like to see it Welcome to the site as well

03-07-2008, 10:24 PM	#3
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 539 Images: 10	Obviously if your grandfather was in WW2 and not in the Korean war, then he could not have used that rifle. The receiver being made 52-53. The value depends on whether or not the rifle has any non HR parts. It shouldn't, but without an inspection, that part remains in question. If it is in 'excellent' shape, and if it is al H&R, value could be near $1000.You should only use military m2 ball, or reloads that use 4895 powder or similar speed, and a bullet weight of 147 to 173 grain. If it is not all H&R value would drop by several hundred dollars.

03-07-2008, 10:33 PM	#4
kygunsmith Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 146	If it is unaltered from its 50's birth it is fairy valuable. IF, too, grandad could document his use of this garand in Korea, and provide other associated photos and doc's it is really valuable!

03-08-2008, 12:30 AM	#7
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 5,028	definately not WWII rifle.

03-08-2008, 08:09 AM	#8
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,274	It sounds like a great rifle. Let's see some pictures.

03-08-2008, 01:47 PM	#9
Jeremyb Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	Thanks guys for all the help, and for welcoming me into g&g. I wish i could ask my grandfather more about the history of this rifle but he passed on 5yrs ago. I talked to my father about this and he said he dont know much since my gramps was not much for words just action. He said my grandfather served from 1941 till the 60's and saw action on the frontlines in wwII and was in korea but saw limited combat there. He knows he had this rifle since the 50's cause my father learned to shoot it when he was 10 in 1959. It has been stored at grampas house and then my fathers until recently when he gave it to me. i cant wait till my ammo arrives so i can take this baby to the range. Thanks for the help guys.

03-08-2008, 08:32 PM	#10
ggordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 107	About a year ago, the CMP was selling "collector grade" H+R Garands of Korean war vintage for $1400.00 Of course, these were in very fine condition with all matching components.

03-15-2008, 03:33 AM	#11
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mansfield, MO Posts: 890	Jeremyb, If you are the third generation within your family to own the old war-horse then it is priceless; an absolute heirloom. I would guess Gramps got it from the old DCM. I think we all would like to see photos.