.300 RUM for Grizzlies

vikingpreacher · 03-09-2008, 06:46 PM

There seems to be alot of opposition to using the .300 RUM for anything bigger/tougher/more dangerous than an Elk but, when I look at the ballistics and bullet weight I would say I would use it for Grizzly/Brown bear. To be frank, even though many of us wouldn't do it plenty of Grizzly/Brown Bears have been taken with a .30-06 and many more will; so even with all the opposition there seems to be to this, would you go Grizzly/Brown bear hunting with a .300 RUM?

AKHunter · 03-09-2008, 06:51 PM

Not me. I have a .338 win mag and it'll do nicely.

Magnumsrule · 03-09-2008, 07:23 PM

300 rum has much more energy than a 300 win or 30-06. It exceeds or equals the 338 win mag for energy and shoots much flatter over long distances.

Ron AKA · 03-09-2008, 07:36 PM

I would not hunt grizzlies with anything, as I think they are endangered. For protection, I feel comfortable with a .264 WM. I've stared two down and walked past them as they scrambled away in the bush.

Ron

thebigitch62 · 03-09-2008, 08:57 PM

some .300 RUM's have extraction issues. mine did. I think the brass is called a rebated rim. and sometimes the factory extractors don't grab the empties right. and when you have a P O-ed grizzly you don't need trouble jacking a second round in.

Mooseman684 · 03-09-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron AKA

I would not hunt grizzlies with anything, as I think they are endangered. For protection, I feel comfortable with a .264 WM. I've stared two down and walked past them as they scrambled away in the bush.

Ron

They Are NOT Endangered...

Midas · 03-09-2008, 09:52 PM

I wouldn't hunt any game with a .300 RUM, when my .300 Win mag would do the job just as well. I would take a .338 Win mag after grizzly, I know a lot of people have killed them with lesser cartridges, but if i were to go on a grizzly hunt, I would take the .338 that is already is in my arsenal.

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Originally Posted by Magnumsrule

300 rum has much more energy than a 300 win or 30-06. It exceeds or equals the 338 win mag for energy and shoots much flatter over long distances.

But can it launch a .338 caliber bullet?

Magnumsrule · 03-09-2008, 11:43 PM

Thats not the point. If you want the same preformance go with the 338 RUM which gives even more omh.... och my sholder.

killer · 03-09-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingpreacher

would you go Grizzly/Brown bear hunting with a .300 RUM?

Yes...with a Nosler 220 gr Partition or Sierra 220 gr SP, and it would be a lung shot.

Lng Rng · 03-10-2008, 02:45 AM

I would rather use something along the lines of a .338. Grizzly bears don't read ballistic charts, and I would rather have the heavier bullet that you can use with a 338.

Not saying it can't be done with a 300, I would just prefer a 338

Rattle'em up · 03-10-2008, 08:53 AM

For me if I was to spend 12,000 on a Grizzly bear hunt I think I could afford something brand new and a little bigger then a 300rum something like a 375 Ultra mag. A "flat shooter" with enough energy to punch a big hole completely thru out to 150 yrds and further. But I would do some research first on the 300RUM if I already owned one. You probably could work up a load that would be sufficient,but I would practice alot at quick follow up shots no matter what I use.

nathangdad · 03-10-2008, 09:24 AM

Could anyone direct me to a website with quite a bit of information on the 300 RUM?

I would appreciate it as I want more info on this cartridge that more and more seems to have really strong supporters and, well, really strong non-supporters.

At present I am a little lost as to the purpose of this cartridge in a marketplace already served by the .300 Win Mag and the .300 Weatherby. However, there is nothing like current info and a lot of it to educate a person.

Thanks in advance.

mtm1 · 03-10-2008, 09:31 AM

Good to see some realistic choices here. More big bears have probably been killed with 300 WBYs than anything else just do to what rich guys bring. Would I take one? No chance, I always have the feeling I'm packing a 30-06 with slightly more reach when I bring a 300. A properly loaded and placed bullet from an UM will definatly drop a big Bear but thats what we have big guns for. I'd be packing my .416. A 350 TSX at just shy of 2700 fps. shoots like a 180/06 and is hard to argue with.

Rattle'em up · 03-10-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nathangdad

Could anyone direct me to a website with quite a bit of information on the 300 RUM?

I would appreciate it as I want more info on this cartridge that more and more seems to have really strong supporters and, well, really strong non-supporters.

At present I am a little lost as to the purpose of this cartridge in a marketplace already served by the .300 Win Mag and the .300 Weatherby. However, there is nothing like current info and a lot of it to educate a person.

Thanks in advance.

If you are truly serious about hunting griz or any North American big game with a 300RUM contact some Alaskan guides I'm sure you will get all the info your looking for.

samuel · 03-10-2008, 09:51 AM

That is why I seldom get into cartridge selection.Someone always has something that has a 350gr bullet at 2700fps that doesnt kick any harder and handles like a 180gr in an -06.I find that good news and absolutely astounding. sam.

mtm1 · 03-10-2008, 10:22 AM

Never said anything about how it kicks. Actually it kicks more than most care to subject them selves to. I was talking stictly trajectory. Probably kicks like several 06s going off at once. I shoot big ones all the time and find it just fine.

killer · 03-10-2008, 10:45 AM

Here's the Sierra 220 grain SP bullet. It's their hardest bullet according to my manual. I would think it's what the doctor ordered out of a 300 RUM...for griz. That or the 220 gr Partition and or possibly the Hornady 220 gr RN Interlock.

Some of the ultra mags have faired better than other ultra mags since their introduction and I am surprised they have not made a heavier bullet. But indeed why not just get the .338 mag and be done with it.

But the original question was would you hunt griz with the 300 RUM and I would using 2 of the bullets I mentioned above.

AKHunter · 03-10-2008, 04:35 PM

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300 rum has much more energy than a 300 win or 30-06. It exceeds or equals the 338 win mag for energy and shoots much flatter over long distances.
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The fact that a .300RUM shoots flatter is irrelevant. It is unwise and irresponsible to take a long range shot at a BIG BEAR that can eat you for lunch before it dies from a poorly placed rifle shot. I wont shoot a bear at more than 200 yards. I prefer it to be 100 yards or less. The shot opportunity should be optimal and accurate. Anything less than doing all necessary to avoid having to track a wounded bear through bush is idiotic( I am not implying you are an idiot Magnumsrule, it is a statement in general) . They are very big, very mean, very tough and VERY FAST !

I have had to enter the brush after a brown bear that a hunting partner shot, it was bad decision when and where the bear was when he shot it. It went into the brush and neither he nor his brother knew if it was dead. ( I was in the tent at the time).If your an andrenalin junkie, by all means give it a go. If your smart, you will avoid this at all cost. It was no fun. Frotunately, the bear was dead when I found it.

A .300 RUM is capable I am sure, but certainly not my choice.A gun is only so accurate regardless of how flat it shoots. The shooter has to do the rest.

killer · 03-10-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AKHunter

I have had to enter the brush after a brown bear that a hunting partner shot, it was bad decision when and where the bear was when he shot it.

Where did he hit it?

Magnumsrule · 03-10-2008, 05:18 PM

As i think i also said the 338 RUM is also a good choice for those sticklers that want bigger guns. I think i have seen several threads that support the ol 06 for grizz. The 300 rum is still in my opinion an excellent choice as it has about the same energy and even though you wouldnt want to take long shots, you still have that option as with a good scope and a steady hands i would not be suprised to see some long shots made. I was watching a hunting show the other day and with premium scopes and a real good gun a guy took a grizz at 700 yards with a 7mm stw or 7mm rum( i cant remember witch) with berger bullets. This was off of a bipod. It can be done and the bear did not go far before collapsing. Did i mention he does this twice?

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03-09-2008, 06:46 PM	#1
vikingpreacher Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269	.300 RUM for Grizzlies There seems to be alot of opposition to using the .300 RUM for anything bigger/tougher/more dangerous than an Elk but, when I look at the ballistics and bullet weight I would say I would use it for Grizzly/Brown bear. To be frank, even though many of us wouldn't do it plenty of Grizzly/Brown Bears have been taken with a .30-06 and many more will; so even with all the opposition there seems to be to this, would you go Grizzly/Brown bear hunting with a .300 RUM? __________________ Join the cartridge comparisons group! http://gunandgame.com/forums/group.php?groupid=3

03-09-2008, 07:23 PM	#3
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 601 Blog Entries: 2	300 rum has much more energy than a 300 win or 30-06. It exceeds or equals the 338 win mag for energy and shoots much flatter over long distances. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

03-09-2008, 11:43 PM	#8
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 601 Blog Entries: 2	Thats not the point. If you want the same preformance go with the 338 RUM which gives even more omh.... och my sholder. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

03-10-2008, 08:53 AM	#11
Rattle'em up Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 103	For me if I was to spend 12,000 on a Grizzly bear hunt I think I could afford something brand new and a little bigger then a 300rum something like a 375 Ultra mag. A "flat shooter" with enough energy to punch a big hole completely thru out to 150 yrds and further. But I would do some research first on the 300RUM if I already owned one. You probably could work up a load that would be sufficient,but I would practice alot at quick follow up shots no matter what I use. Last edited by Rattle'em up; 03-10-2008 at 09:56 AM.

03-09-2008, 06:51 PM	#2
AKHunter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 899	Not me. I have a .338 win mag and it'll do nicely.

03-09-2008, 07:36 PM	#4
Ron AKA Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 704	I would not hunt grizzlies with anything, as I think they are endangered. For protection, I feel comfortable with a .264 WM. I've stared two down and walked past them as they scrambled away in the bush. Ron

03-09-2008, 08:57 PM	#5
thebigitch62 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Port Orchard Wa Posts: 110	some .300 RUM's have extraction issues. mine did. I think the brass is called a rebated rim. and sometimes the factory extractors don't grab the empties right. and when you have a P O-ed grizzly you don't need trouble jacking a second round in.

03-10-2008, 02:45 AM	#10
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 961	I would rather use something along the lines of a .338. Grizzly bears don't read ballistic charts, and I would rather have the heavier bullet that you can use with a 338. Not saying it can't be done with a 300, I would just prefer a 338

03-10-2008, 09:24 AM	#12
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,823	Question about 300 RUM Could anyone direct me to a website with quite a bit of information on the 300 RUM? I would appreciate it as I want more info on this cartridge that more and more seems to have really strong supporters and, well, really strong non-supporters. At present I am a little lost as to the purpose of this cartridge in a marketplace already served by the .300 Win Mag and the .300 Weatherby. However, there is nothing like current info and a lot of it to educate a person. Thanks in advance.

03-10-2008, 09:31 AM	#13
mtm1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 86	Good to see some realistic choices here. More big bears have probably been killed with 300 WBYs than anything else just do to what rich guys bring. Would I take one? No chance, I always have the feeling I'm packing a 30-06 with slightly more reach when I bring a 300. A properly loaded and placed bullet from an UM will definatly drop a big Bear but thats what we have big guns for. I'd be packing my .416. A 350 TSX at just shy of 2700 fps. shoots like a 180/06 and is hard to argue with.

03-10-2008, 09:51 AM	#15
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	That is why I seldom get into cartridge selection.Someone always has something that has a 350gr bullet at 2700fps that doesnt kick any harder and handles like a 180gr in an -06.I find that good news and absolutely astounding. sam.

03-10-2008, 10:22 AM	#16
mtm1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 86	Never said anything about how it kicks. Actually it kicks more than most care to subject them selves to. I was talking stictly trajectory. Probably kicks like several 06s going off at once. I shoot big ones all the time and find it just fine.

03-10-2008, 10:45 AM	#17
killer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the rat race Posts: 906 Images: 6	Here's the Sierra 220 grain SP bullet. It's their hardest bullet according to my manual. I would think it's what the doctor ordered out of a 300 RUM...for griz. That or the 220 gr Partition and or possibly the Hornady 220 gr RN Interlock. Some of the ultra mags have faired better than other ultra mags since their introduction and I am surprised they have not made a heavier bullet. But indeed why not just get the .338 mag and be done with it. But the original question was would you hunt griz with the 300 RUM and I would using 2 of the bullets I mentioned above. __________________ "Yeee Hawww...I'm a cowboy on an iron horse." Killer's cabin: http://buckmountainchateau.com/ Last edited by killer; 03-10-2008 at 10:55 AM.

03-10-2008, 05:18 PM	#20
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 601 Blog Entries: 2	As i think i also said the 338 RUM is also a good choice for those sticklers that want bigger guns. I think i have seen several threads that support the ol 06 for grizz. The 300 rum is still in my opinion an excellent choice as it has about the same energy and even though you wouldnt want to take long shots, you still have that option as with a good scope and a steady hands i would not be suprised to see some long shots made. I was watching a hunting show the other day and with premium scopes and a real good gun a guy took a grizz at 700 yards with a 7mm stw or 7mm rum( i cant remember witch) with berger bullets. This was off of a bipod. It can be done and the bear did not go far before collapsing. Did i mention he does this twice? __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!