Carbine Stock

George Balog · 03-08-2008, 06:06 PM

Hello: This is my first post on this forum, and hope someone with expertise in WW2 M1 Carbine stocks can help me. I recently purchased what is supposed to be a "period correct" stock for my National Postal Meter carbine. It is a reddish brown wood in pretty good condition. Low wood with oval oiler slot and 2-rivet hand guard. My problem is that, try as I might, I cannot find any crossed-cannon stamp anywhere on the stock. The only markings are the letters TN stamped in the sling cut-out. I thought all WW2 stocks had the ordnance crossed cannons on the stock. Thanks for any help you can give me.

ggordon · 03-08-2008, 07:35 PM

I also have a TN marked stock for a National Postal Meter M1 carbine. It came on an Inland barrel/receivered gun. It too lacks the Crossed-Cannon stamping.

Bruce Canfield's book on the M1 Garand + M1 Carbine mentions that this stamp was often very lightly stamped and often wore off quickly.

MrJitters · 03-09-2008, 09:42 PM

You have a Trimble stock which is most likely correct for your carbine. Post pics.

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jimb2 · 03-11-2008, 10:32 PM

Many times the crossed cannons have been sanded off. If they were there, they would be on the right side just ahead of the oiler slot. And right beside it would be a box with NPM over FJA inside. It is extremely common to find those markings removed.

GlockMeister · 03-11-2008, 10:47 PM

Can't really help you with your question. I'm just popping in to say welcome to the site.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 03-24-2008, 07:47 PM

The crossed cannons the "escutcheons" tell you what company actually used the stock to build the carbine. The stampings in the sling slot show who manufactured the stock. With only three exceptions the escutcheons were found on the right side of the buttstock. 1) A few of the early WRA and Inland were marked on the left side above the trigger housing. 2) Some of the early NPM do not have the ordnance escutcheons 3) Very late Underwoods have them in the sling slot. Your M1C may be an early NPM. But like others have said these markings can disapear from sanding or the gun getting wet or hot steam or wear or other factors. Try holding a flashlight at an angle in the area and see if anything shows up.

03-08-2008, 06:06 PM	#1
George Balog Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0)	Carbine Stock Hello: This is my first post on this forum, and hope someone with expertise in WW2 M1 Carbine stocks can help me. I recently purchased what is supposed to be a "period correct" stock for my National Postal Meter carbine. It is a reddish brown wood in pretty good condition. Low wood with oval oiler slot and 2-rivet hand guard. My problem is that, try as I might, I cannot find any crossed-cannon stamp anywhere on the stock. The only markings are the letters TN stamped in the sling cut-out. I thought all WW2 stocks had the ordnance crossed cannons on the stock. Thanks for any help you can give me.

03-09-2008, 09:42 PM	#3
MrJitters Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vermont USA Posts: 44 Trader Rating: (0)	You have a Trimble stock which is most likely correct for your carbine. Post pics. MrJ Home My web site __________________ MrJ www.mrjitters.net ...and the beat goes on. Last edited by MrJitters; 03-09-2008 at 09:45 PM.

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jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 491 Trader Rating: (0)	Many times the crossed cannons have been sanded off. If they were there, they would be on the right side just ahead of the oiler slot. And right beside it would be a box with NPM over FJA inside. It is extremely common to find those markings removed. __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

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GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,739 Trader Rating: (0)	Can't really help you with your question. I'm just popping in to say welcome to the site. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

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03-08-2008, 07:35 PM	#2
ggordon Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0)	I also have a TN marked stock for a National Postal Meter M1 carbine. It came on an Inland barrel/receivered gun. It too lacks the Crossed-Cannon stamping. Bruce Canfield's book on the M1 Garand + M1 Carbine mentions that this stamp was often very lightly stamped and often wore off quickly.

03-24-2008, 07:47 PM	#6
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 1,932 Trader Rating: (0)	The crossed cannons the "escutcheons" tell you what company actually used the stock to build the carbine. The stampings in the sling slot show who manufactured the stock. With only three exceptions the escutcheons were found on the right side of the buttstock. 1) A few of the early WRA and Inland were marked on the left side above the trigger housing. 2) Some of the early NPM do not have the ordnance escutcheons 3) Very late Underwoods have them in the sling slot. Your M1C may be an early NPM. But like others have said these markings can disapear from sanding or the gun getting wet or hot steam or wear or other factors. Try holding a flashlight at an angle in the area and see if anything shows up.