AK or AR

rick343 · 03-11-2008, 10:38 PM

I'm having a tough time deciding weather to get an
AR-15 or an AK-47. I've seen AK's in 5.56 which is the caliber I'm leaning towards. Brass is easy to find and fairly inexpensive to reload and also I'm going to get a .223 varmit rifle. Any thoughts.

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mitch_mckee · 03-11-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rick343

I'm having a tough time deciding weather to get an
AR-15 or an AK-47. I've seen AK's in 5.56 which is the caliber I'm leaning towards. Brass is easy to find and fairly inexpensive to reload and also I'm going to get a .223 varmit rifle. Any thoughts.

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jmp8927 · 03-11-2008, 10:49 PM

AR-15 will be more accurate, lighter, and more comfortable. AK-74 will be cheaper and more reliable. I myself am not sure...the AR-15 does shoot really good. If it's something that could be exposed to somewhat harsh conditions, get the AK-74 as it will hold up better. If you will be able to keep it pretty clean, get the AR-15.

meatloaf · 03-11-2008, 11:37 PM

OMG get both!

cubbieman · 03-11-2008, 11:54 PM

^^^ what he said, that's what i'm going to do

SwedeSteve · 03-12-2008, 01:17 AM

Apples and oranges...

GlockMeister · 03-12-2008, 01:43 AM

Get both in case they again some day say you can't have either.

fullMetalJack · 03-12-2008, 01:56 AM

listen, personally. both rifle has pros and cons . ive seen just about every test you can on a ak. it still shoots. ive seen just about every test with a ar.it fails sometimes. but the quantities of ammo these tests were spitting out were well beyond my expectations. for both rifles. my solution

im getting both as well.

i have my ar family. i just know im gonna get a ak47.

Righteous · 03-12-2008, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by meatloaf

OMG get both!

+1

texnmidwest · 03-12-2008, 08:19 AM

I agree. Apples and oranges. But if I had the money I would get both. If I had the money for either and not both then I would get the AR.

Pred · 03-12-2008, 08:28 AM

All depends on what you want the rifle for. SHTF? Most LEO's and our military use AR's, so mags and ammo should be easy to fine, especially in peoples homes(at least ammo). With that said, I'd buy an upper with a 1x7 twist rate. Will allow you to use most any ammo you find. The more common 1x9 twist barrels may have problems stabilizing ammo over 62gr's. As of right now, 7.62x39 is MUCH cheaper then 5.56/.223. If your reloading though, I don't know. Never looked into the price difference. AR will give you a much larger range of uses, as about any upper will work with any lower. Can switch from a 600 yard set up to a CQC set up in a minutes. AK? I wouldn't want to go past 200 yards or so without it being something like an Arsenal or a higher quality AK, and some decent optics. Of course you can always drop an AK in the mud for a month, pick it up and fire it, so.... Just depends.

LarryO1970 · 03-12-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pred

All depends on what you want the rifle for. SHTF? Most LEO's and our military use AR's, so mags and ammo should be easy to fine, especially in peoples homes(at least ammo). With that said, I'd buy an upper with a 1x7 twist rate. Will allow you to use most any ammo you find. The more common 1x9 twist barrels may have problems stabilizing ammo over 62gr's. As of right now, 7.62x39 is MUCH cheaper then 5.56/.223. If your reloading though, I don't know. Never looked into the price difference. AR will give you a much larger range of uses, as about any upper will work with any lower. Can switch from a 600 yard set up to a CQC set up in a minutes. AK? I wouldn't want to go past 200 yards or so without it being something like an Arsenal or a higher quality AK, and some decent optics. Of course you can always drop an AK in the mud for a month, pick it up and fire it, so.... Just depends.

Apples and Oranges is right... depends on the use and conditions during use. The AK is much more reliable dirty than an AR.

Pred is right here... the AR gives you much more choices than the AK.

How will you use it... that question will give you your answer. Although ... meatloaf his the best answer here.

Rex Kramer · 03-12-2008, 09:06 AM

I have one of each and if push ever comes to shove I'll let the AK go.

Pred · 03-12-2008, 09:08 AM

Yeah, I've got one AK(need another) and working on building my 2nd and 3rd AR. I'm getting pretty slick at putting them together. The second of the two I put together last night(didn't put the stocks on, don't have those yet) only took me like 15 minutes LOL.

LarryO1970 · 03-12-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pred

Yeah, I've got one AK(need another) and working on building my 2nd and 3rd AR. I'm getting pretty slick at putting them together. The second of the two I put together last night(didn't put the stocks on, don't have those yet) only took me like 15 minutes LOL.

Pred ... are you using reference material or just by memory? If you need, I could probably get you an armorers book on the AR... ?

Pred · 03-12-2008, 09:22 AM

The first one I did with a little help from an online guide, however on the second one I didn't need any help. It's been a while since I installed a LPK in an AR(about 2 years).

Ferroflame · 03-13-2008, 11:11 PM

Well, I haven't fired or held either rifle, but I'd say get both.

I've done a lot of research on both, and the AK is WAY more reliable, but from what the other guys on here say, the AR is more accurate.

But a gun is only as accurate as the shooter. (To a point)

So do whatever you'd like.

Like the others said, I'd say get both, and if at all possible, try to get them in the same caliber. (Is that possible? o.O Just wondering!!)

Could save you so money or something. Instead of having to buy two different boxes of ammo, just buy one big one.

^_^ Makes sense to me!!

cubbieman · 03-14-2008, 04:25 AM

the AK-74 is a .223

win308 · 03-15-2008, 12:05 PM

3 problems....1. mags 2. ammo 3. guns.

1. You have to stock pile mags because as soon as the next election is over, 10 round mags will be the limit again.

2. We ban ammo from China NOW....so how soon will it be before we ban Wolf and other Russian ammo??? And it is getting more expensive to buy as we sit here...even if it isn't banned or taxed.

3. Can an assault weapons ban be too far into the future??

So, if money is tight.......go for a non WASR AK and buy mags and ammo every month. You got more funds...get an AR and plenty of mags. Forget the varmit rifle for now....those wont be banned any time soon. Invest now in something you want...but likely WONT be able to get a year fom now.

You have about 12 months to get whichever assault rifle you want...fully out fitted...to last the rest of your life. Get the mags first.

Ferroflame · 03-15-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cubbieman

the AK-74 is a .223

Some are, yeah.

But most are 7.62x39, I think.

^_^

centerfiresystems.com

You could look at a few there, under long guns and AK.

03-11-2008, 10:38 PM	#1
rick343 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 83	AK or AR I'm having a tough time deciding weather to get an AR-15 or an AK-47. I've seen AK's in 5.56 which is the caliber I'm leaning towards. Brass is easy to find and fairly inexpensive to reload and also I'm going to get a .223 varmit rifle. Any thoughts. ________________________ I'm your huckleberry

03-11-2008, 10:49 PM	#3
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,329 Images: 17	AR-15 will be more accurate, lighter, and more comfortable. AK-74 will be cheaper and more reliable. I myself am not sure...the AR-15 does shoot really good. If it's something that could be exposed to somewhat harsh conditions, get the AK-74 as it will hold up better. If you will be able to keep it pretty clean, get the AR-15. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

03-12-2008, 01:17 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,150 Images: 1	Apples and oranges... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-12-2008, 01:43 AM	#7
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,792	Get both in case they again some day say you can't have either. __________________ Maybe I oughta tie the long hair on yer head to the short hair on yer ass & kick ya down the street!

03-12-2008, 01:56 AM	#8
fullMetalJack Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 125	listen, personally. both rifle has pros and cons . ive seen just about every test you can on a ak. it still shoots. ive seen just about every test with a ar.it fails sometimes. but the quantities of ammo these tests were spitting out were well beyond my expectations. for both rifles. my solution im getting both as well. i have my ar family. i just know im gonna get a ak47. __________________ -What we do in life echoes in eternity...

03-11-2008, 11:37 PM	#4
meatloaf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lakewood CO Posts: 956 Images: 3	OMG get both!

03-11-2008, 11:54 PM	#5
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,555	^^^ what he said, that's what i'm going to do

03-12-2008, 08:19 AM	#10
texnmidwest New Sheriff in Town! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,777	I agree. Apples and oranges. But if I had the money I would get both. If I had the money for either and not both then I would get the AR. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-12-2008, 08:28 AM	#11
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	All depends on what you want the rifle for. SHTF? Most LEO's and our military use AR's, so mags and ammo should be easy to fine, especially in peoples homes(at least ammo). With that said, I'd buy an upper with a 1x7 twist rate. Will allow you to use most any ammo you find. The more common 1x9 twist barrels may have problems stabilizing ammo over 62gr's. As of right now, 7.62x39 is MUCH cheaper then 5.56/.223. If your reloading though, I don't know. Never looked into the price difference. AR will give you a much larger range of uses, as about any upper will work with any lower. Can switch from a 600 yard set up to a CQC set up in a minutes. AK? I wouldn't want to go past 200 yards or so without it being something like an Arsenal or a higher quality AK, and some decent optics. Of course you can always drop an AK in the mud for a month, pick it up and fire it, so.... Just depends.

03-12-2008, 09:06 AM	#13
Rex Kramer Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 470	I have one of each and if push ever comes to shove I'll let the AK go.

03-12-2008, 09:08 AM	#14
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah, I've got one AK(need another) and working on building my 2nd and 3rd AR. I'm getting pretty slick at putting them together. The second of the two I put together last night(didn't put the stocks on, don't have those yet) only took me like 15 minutes LOL.

03-12-2008, 09:22 AM	#16
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The first one I did with a little help from an online guide, however on the second one I didn't need any help. It's been a while since I installed a LPK in an AR(about 2 years).

03-13-2008, 11:11 PM	#17
Ferroflame Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 446	Well, I haven't fired or held either rifle, but I'd say get both. I've done a lot of research on both, and the AK is WAY more reliable, but from what the other guys on here say, the AR is more accurate. But a gun is only as accurate as the shooter. (To a point) So do whatever you'd like. Like the others said, I'd say get both, and if at all possible, try to get them in the same caliber. (Is that possible? o.O Just wondering!!) Could save you so money or something. Instead of having to buy two different boxes of ammo, just buy one big one. ^_^ Makes sense to me!!

03-14-2008, 04:25 AM	#18
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,555	the AK-74 is a .223

03-15-2008, 12:05 PM	#19
win308 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13	3 problems....1. mags 2. ammo 3. guns. 1. You have to stock pile mags because as soon as the next election is over, 10 round mags will be the limit again. 2. We ban ammo from China NOW....so how soon will it be before we ban Wolf and other Russian ammo??? And it is getting more expensive to buy as we sit here...even if it isn't banned or taxed. 3. Can an assault weapons ban be too far into the future?? So, if money is tight.......go for a non WASR AK and buy mags and ammo every month. You got more funds...get an AR and plenty of mags. Forget the varmit rifle for now....those wont be banned any time soon. Invest now in something you want...but likely WONT be able to get a year fom now. You have about 12 months to get whichever assault rifle you want...fully out fitted...to last the rest of your life. Get the mags first.