Loose Garand Gas Clylinder

leeload · 03-12-2008, 01:33 PM

I recently purchased a battle weary Garand and found the Gas Clyinder assembly to be somewhat loose. While it is easy to screw on the lock, it stops 1/4 short of squaring up with the clylinder. I must then back off 3/4 turn to screw in the lock therby leaving a loose assembly and forearm. Do they make washers for this or what? Thanks for any feedback.

Orlando · 03-12-2008, 04:26 PM

If you have any questions after reading this link just ask. Peening the splines is easy to do
Garand Knowledgebase - More gas cylinder tightening tips

nathangdad · 03-12-2008, 04:57 PM

As you mention it is "battle weary" you might want to do some research toward finding someone or some firm to to a restoration job. Like cars, this one problem may also be a sign others are in the works.

The Garand is a truly wonderful weapon deserving of restoration.

Orlando · 03-12-2008, 05:03 PM

I would do a complete break down, clean and apply grease not oil, replace Op Rod spring. Take her out and enjoy. You dont need to buy any high tech gun grease. Any good quality automotive wheel bearing grease will work just fine.

http://www.nicolausassociates.com/PD...easePoints.pdf

LarryO1970 · 03-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orlando

I would do a complete break down, clean and apply grease not oil, replace Op Rod spring. Take her out and enjoy. You dont need to buy any high tech gun grease. Any good quality automotive wheel bearing grease will work just fine.

http://www.nicolausassociates.com/PD...easePoints.pdf

Orlando ... you may not remember, but thank you for your advice on commercial ammo and the M1 Garand. If you recall, I had fired two Remington rounds and the case rims were torn off by the extractor. Luckily that was it... but thanks again for the "heads-up" on the commercial ammo.

Orlando · 03-12-2008, 05:43 PM

No problem.

leeload · 03-13-2008, 06:32 PM

THANKS ORLANDO. THE FIRST ROUNDS I FIRED THROUGH IT WOULD NOT EJECT (EXCEPT MANUALLY). HOWEVER, THESE WERE OLD MILITARY AMMO THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM. BUT I ALSO THOUGHT THE GAS CYLINDER WAS A LITTLE LOSE AS EARLIER EXPLAINED THAT MAY CAUSE EXCESSIVE GAS LEAK AND WEAK BOLT RETURN. ANYWAY, I HAVE NOW GREASED (INSTEAD OF OILED) AND WILL TRY AGAIN.
LEELOAD
leegooch@att.net

Thanks much. I had heard about "peening" but didn't really understand until viewing this webpage. Very helpful.
Leeload
leegooch@att.net

AJ100 · 03-13-2008, 06:40 PM

Leeload, grease or not, smooth ejection or not, you might still want to tighten up that cylinder. If there is play side to side, the front sight is moving with it. Does not make for great groups.

Just follow the spline tightening procedure found on the web. It's easy and you won't need any special tools. GL
AJ

Orlando · 03-13-2008, 06:45 PM

Be careful that old ammo could be corrosive. Are you saying that after firing the op rod wouldn't bring back the bolt? Even with a loose gas cylinder it should still try to cycle. Could be that the gas cylinder is partially covering the gas port on the barrel. After peening the barrel put on the gas cylinder , take a paperclip and put a bend in it approx 1/4 from the end. Stick it in the gas cylinder and see if it will drop into the hole in the barrel. Also make sure your gas screw is tight after assembling.

03-12-2008, 01:33 PM	#1
leeload Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	Loose Garand Gas Clylinder I recently purchased a battle weary Garand and found the Gas Clyinder assembly to be somewhat loose. While it is easy to screw on the lock, it stops 1/4 short of squaring up with the clylinder. I must then back off 3/4 turn to screw in the lock therby leaving a loose assembly and forearm. Do they make washers for this or what? Thanks for any feedback.

03-12-2008, 04:57 PM	#3
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,236	Please consider As you mention it is "battle weary" you might want to do some research toward finding someone or some firm to to a restoration job. Like cars, this one problem may also be a sign others are in the works. The Garand is a truly wonderful weapon deserving of restoration.

03-13-2008, 06:32 PM	#7
leeload Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	THANKS ORLANDO. THE FIRST ROUNDS I FIRED THROUGH IT WOULD NOT EJECT (EXCEPT MANUALLY). HOWEVER, THESE WERE OLD MILITARY AMMO THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM. BUT I ALSO THOUGHT THE GAS CYLINDER WAS A LITTLE LOSE AS EARLIER EXPLAINED THAT MAY CAUSE EXCESSIVE GAS LEAK AND WEAK BOLT RETURN. ANYWAY, I HAVE NOW GREASED (INSTEAD OF OILED) AND WILL TRY AGAIN. LEELOAD leegooch@att.net Thanks much. I had heard about "peening" but didn't really understand until viewing this webpage. Very helpful. Leeload leegooch@att.net Last edited by leeload; 03-13-2008 at 06:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-12-2008, 04:26 PM	#2
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	If you have any questions after reading this link just ask. Peening the splines is easy to do Garand Knowledgebase - More gas cylinder tightening tips

03-12-2008, 05:03 PM	#4
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	I would do a complete break down, clean and apply grease not oil, replace Op Rod spring. Take her out and enjoy. You dont need to buy any high tech gun grease. Any good quality automotive wheel bearing grease will work just fine. http://www.nicolausassociates.com/PD...easePoints.pdf

03-12-2008, 05:43 PM	#6
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	No problem.

03-13-2008, 06:40 PM	#8
AJ100 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	Leeload, grease or not, smooth ejection or not, you might still want to tighten up that cylinder. If there is play side to side, the front sight is moving with it. Does not make for great groups. Just follow the spline tightening procedure found on the web. It's easy and you won't need any special tools. GL AJ

03-13-2008, 06:45 PM	#9
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	Be careful that old ammo could be corrosive. Are you saying that after firing the op rod wouldn't bring back the bolt? Even with a loose gas cylinder it should still try to cycle. Could be that the gas cylinder is partially covering the gas port on the barrel. After peening the barrel put on the gas cylinder , take a paperclip and put a bend in it approx 1/4 from the end. Stick it in the gas cylinder and see if it will drop into the hole in the barrel. Also make sure your gas screw is tight after assembling.