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Geo M44 · 03-14-2008, 03:46 PM

The Advantage of the LER scout scope is that you can get a decent zoom (2x to 7x) although at 7x the focus is not great, but backed off to about 6.5... perfect, and you can use the standard bolt and stripper clips. In addition the latest iteration has an illuminated reticle. Having the scope 8" -10" in front of your eye also gives you some peripheral vision (to see that 12 point moving up to the same graze as the 2 prong you were about to shoot).

As for ammo:

I have always used IMR4895 as it gives the best bang for the buck. A pound of powder is about $22 no matter which one you use. With a max load of 45gr (for a 175-180 gr bullet) for IMR4895 vs. 48-49gr. for IMR4064 you will get more quality reloads from 4895.

I have tried every load from 40gr. to 45.5gr. (in .5gr increments) and generally use 44gr. loads for 170-190gr bullets as at 100-200 yards the extra powder doesn't seem to enhance accuracy (for me), but does add to the recoil. YMMV.

The best way I have found to aquire reloadable brass is buy a few boxes of Sellier & Bellot, or Winchester 180gr SP, or better yet Wolf Gold 150gr FMJ (usually much cheaper but seems to be very good brass). These are running anywhere from $12.99 to $21.95 for a box of 20, and going up almost daily, so buy as much as you can afford. I found 60 to 100 rounds is a good starter quantity. If you see decent Boxer primed brass ammo cheap, then buy it up (mainly at gun shows).

Use those store-bought rounds for practice and then reload them using the bullet of your liking. Althoiugh I suppose that the Winchester soft points are fairly decent hunting rounds.

I prefer .311 bullets as they stay in place without crimping, and seem to be more consistant accuracy than .308 especially in a moderately worn bore like you would find in the average 91/30.

Speaking of prices going up... along with finished ammo, bullets and powder are on the rise, and every time I walk into Sportsmans or Cabellas it costs an extra buck or two. Sierra 174gr. .311 match HP that I bought for $24.95 4 months ago are now at $32.95. Luckily I bought 400 rounds of Speer 180gr. SP for $9.99 when Sportsmans closed them out.

It also seems to be getting harder to find Large Rifle Primers, first Winchesters were hard to find and now CCI's have disappeared as well. I may resort to buying 1000 at a time on line just so I have some.

Anyway hope this helps.

03-14-2008, 03:46 PM	#17
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 1,090	The Advantage of the LER scout scope is that you can get a decent zoom (2x to 7x) although at 7x the focus is not great, but backed off to about 6.5... perfect, and you can use the standard bolt and stripper clips. In addition the latest iteration has an illuminated reticle. Having the scope 8" -10" in front of your eye also gives you some peripheral vision (to see that 12 point moving up to the same graze as the 2 prong you were about to shoot). As for ammo: I have always used IMR4895 as it gives the best bang for the buck. A pound of powder is about $22 no matter which one you use. With a max load of 45gr (for a 175-180 gr bullet) for IMR4895 vs. 48-49gr. for IMR4064 you will get more quality reloads from 4895. I have tried every load from 40gr. to 45.5gr. (in .5gr increments) and generally use 44gr. loads for 170-190gr bullets as at 100-200 yards the extra powder doesn't seem to enhance accuracy (for me), but does add to the recoil. YMMV. The best way I have found to aquire reloadable brass is buy a few boxes of Sellier & Bellot, or Winchester 180gr SP, or better yet Wolf Gold 150gr FMJ (usually much cheaper but seems to be very good brass). These are running anywhere from $12.99 to $21.95 for a box of 20, and going up almost daily, so buy as much as you can afford. I found 60 to 100 rounds is a good starter quantity. If you see decent Boxer primed brass ammo cheap, then buy it up (mainly at gun shows). Use those store-bought rounds for practice and then reload them using the bullet of your liking. Althoiugh I suppose that the Winchester soft points are fairly decent hunting rounds. I prefer .311 bullets as they stay in place without crimping, and seem to be more consistant accuracy than .308 especially in a moderately worn bore like you would find in the average 91/30. Speaking of prices going up... along with finished ammo, bullets and powder are on the rise, and every time I walk into Sportsmans or Cabellas it costs an extra buck or two. Sierra 174gr. .311 match HP that I bought for $24.95 4 months ago are now at $32.95. Luckily I bought 400 rounds of Speer 180gr. SP for $9.99 when Sportsmans closed them out. It also seems to be getting harder to find Large Rifle Primers, first Winchesters were hard to find and now CCI's have disappeared as well. I may resort to buying 1000 at a time on line just so I have some. Anyway hope this helps. Last edited by Geo M44; 03-14-2008 at 03:52 PM.