AMMO

Skat · 03-06-2008, 03:56 PM

Hey, in search for some ammo. Running dry around the area, so going to have to order it. Saw this on CMP...
Civilian Marksmanship Program eStore=

It warns that the bullets attract a magnet. Must have some kind of different alloy for core, but what does this effect????

Any other suggestions or spots to get bulk surplus, non-corrosive 30-06 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all

-Skat

rfc357 · 03-06-2008, 05:06 PM

Means iron in the jacket somewhere. Some ranges prohibit bullets that attract a magnet because of damage to range equipment (if the bullet is indeed "armor piercing"), or danger of fire. Both these dangers are BS as far as I am concerned, but rules are rules.

If you are under no arbitrary restrictions such as these, the CMP ammo is the best deal you will find.

Corrosive ammo is not a problem. Just clean the rifle with water when you are finished shooting.

Orlando · 03-06-2008, 05:56 PM

CMP ammo is the best deal around, good noncorrosive accurate ammo It is lead core steel jacket with copper wash or coating. Some ranges out west dont allow it because of a very small percentage that it could spark hitting a rock and cause a fire. Why buy corrosive ammo when you can get this at a great price? If you do shoot corrosive ammo in a Garand you will have to do a complete break down and clean everytime you shoot which only accelerates wear on the gas clyinder and splines and it takes 40 -50rds to get the action settled back down into the stock before accuracy will return

Skat · 03-06-2008, 06:11 PM

thanks all

big boomer · 03-06-2008, 06:23 PM

Also some states will not allow ammo that attracts a magnet for hunting ammo, except shotgun,which has to in my state.

rfc357 · 03-06-2008, 07:20 PM

You do not have to dismount the gas cylinder to clean after shooting corrosive ammunition. Just follow the cleaning instructions on the CMP site.

Read "Shots Fired in Anger" about keeping the rifles running on Guadalcanal.

Orlando · 03-07-2008, 02:49 PM

If shooting corrosive ammo I would definatly dissasemble the gas sytem for cleaning. Ever notice all the carbon that blows out around the gas cylinder? Even though "most " of the pads are chromed on the barrel some aren't also corrosive salts could get up under the gas lock ans corrode the barrel. Bottom line is if shooting corrosive ammo do a complete break down and clean.

.22guy · 03-07-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rfc357

Both these dangers are BS as far as I am concerned, but rules are rules.

I've seen a fire started with steel core 30-06 bullets.

As you said, rules are rules. And nobody forces someone to shoot at a range with these restrictions.

Righteous · 03-07-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

I've seen a fire started with steel core 30-06 bullets.

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thats what tracers are for lol

Big Tool · 03-07-2008, 07:59 PM

That ammo is very cheap. Will a regular 30-06 like a remington 700 be able to shoot that ammo. The nato vs 308 winchester.

Orlando · 03-07-2008, 08:04 PM

Not sure what your question is. If you are asking if a modern bolt action rifle could shoot CMP's HXP 30.06 Ammo I dont see why not

Righteous · 03-07-2008, 08:13 PM

a bolt action will shoot it but its very tight fit and you will have trouble closing the bolt

oldjarhead · 03-15-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Righteous

a bolt action will shoot it but its very tight fit and you will have trouble closing the bolt

You may have more trouble opening it after expansion.

Orlando · 03-15-2008, 08:24 AM

I have shot plenty of it in 1903's and 1903a's and no problems whatsoever. Some report havind occasional problems ejecting from bolt action but its occasionally

Righteous · 03-15-2008, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orlando

CMP ammo is the best deal around, good noncorrosive accurate ammo It is lead core steel jacket with copper wash or coating.

just for FYI the greek ammo is brass cased and very accurate

Ben Hartley · 03-15-2008, 12:46 PM

Apparently, the Greek ammo varies a good bit from lot to lot and year to year. A cursory check at the CSP/Jouster board indicates that the HXP71 does fine in both M1's and bolt rifles, while the HXP77 seems to be a bit on the hot side. No problems in the Garand, but it tends to be "sticky" in bolt-action rifles, specifically, the 03A3.

I've not verified this myself, so this is a "for what it's worth" posting.

Ben Hartley

03-06-2008, 03:56 PM	#1
Skat Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 70	AMMO Hey, in search for some ammo. Running dry around the area, so going to have to order it. Saw this on CMP... Civilian Marksmanship Program eStore= It warns that the bullets attract a magnet. Must have some kind of different alloy for core, but what does this effect???? Any other suggestions or spots to get bulk surplus, non-corrosive 30-06 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all -Skat

03-06-2008, 05:56 PM	#3
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 656	CMP ammo is the best deal around, good noncorrosive accurate ammo It is lead core steel jacket with copper wash or coating. Some ranges out west dont allow it because of a very small percentage that it could spark hitting a rock and cause a fire. Why buy corrosive ammo when you can get this at a great price? If you do shoot corrosive ammo in a Garand you will have to do a complete break down and clean everytime you shoot which only accelerates wear on the gas clyinder and splines and it takes 40 -50rds to get the action settled back down into the stock before accuracy will return Last edited by Orlando; 03-06-2008 at 06:00 PM.

03-07-2008, 02:49 PM	#7
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 656	If shooting corrosive ammo I would definatly dissasemble the gas sytem for cleaning. Ever notice all the carbon that blows out around the gas cylinder? Even though "most " of the pads are chromed on the barrel some aren't also corrosive salts could get up under the gas lock ans corrode the barrel. Bottom line is if shooting corrosive ammo do a complete break down and clean. Last edited by Orlando; 03-07-2008 at 03:00 PM.

03-15-2008, 12:46 PM	#16
Ben Hartley Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jaffrey, New Hampshire Posts: 150	Greek HXP Ammo Apparently, the Greek ammo varies a good bit from lot to lot and year to year. A cursory check at the CSP/Jouster board indicates that the HXP71 does fine in both M1's and bolt rifles, while the HXP77 seems to be a bit on the hot side. No problems in the Garand, but it tends to be "sticky" in bolt-action rifles, specifically, the 03A3. I've not verified this myself, so this is a "for what it's worth" posting. Ben Hartley

03-06-2008, 05:06 PM	#2
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	Means iron in the jacket somewhere. Some ranges prohibit bullets that attract a magnet because of damage to range equipment (if the bullet is indeed "armor piercing"), or danger of fire. Both these dangers are BS as far as I am concerned, but rules are rules. If you are under no arbitrary restrictions such as these, the CMP ammo is the best deal you will find. Corrosive ammo is not a problem. Just clean the rifle with water when you are finished shooting.

03-06-2008, 06:11 PM	#4
Skat Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 70	thanks all

03-06-2008, 06:23 PM	#5
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 1,249	Also some states will not allow ammo that attracts a magnet for hunting ammo, except shotgun,which has to in my state.

03-06-2008, 07:20 PM	#6
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	You do not have to dismount the gas cylinder to clean after shooting corrosive ammunition. Just follow the cleaning instructions on the CMP site. Read "Shots Fired in Anger" about keeping the rifles running on Guadalcanal.

03-07-2008, 07:59 PM	#10
Big Tool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MS Posts: 639	That ammo is very cheap. Will a regular 30-06 like a remington 700 be able to shoot that ammo. The nato vs 308 winchester.

03-07-2008, 08:04 PM	#11
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 656	Not sure what your question is. If you are asking if a modern bolt action rifle could shoot CMP's HXP 30.06 Ammo I dont see why not

03-07-2008, 08:13 PM	#12
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214	a bolt action will shoot it but its very tight fit and you will have trouble closing the bolt

03-15-2008, 08:24 AM	#14
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 656	I have shot plenty of it in 1903's and 1903a's and no problems whatsoever. Some report havind occasional problems ejecting from bolt action but its occasionally