Muzzel loader?

[mallard1123]

i want a new muzzel loader that will be accurate at long range any suggestions?

[two-70]

the best you could do would be the new TC Encore but are very expensive, i shoot the CVA Kodiak Mag. with black synthetic stock and nickle barrel, the gun with 90 grains of loose triple 7 and a 295 grain power belt hollow point will shoot bullet hole inside bullet hole at 50 yards, have not shot it at any farther distance because all my shots are under 50 yards, i believe it would do 150 yards easily.

[turkn8r1]

I guess long range depends on the shooter. What do you consider long range for a muzzle loader. To me 250 yards is the outside envelope. If that is your standard then just about any with a 28" barrel will do. T/C, Knight, CVA, Remington. The T/C is the better made I think but I would say that Knight and Remington are up there. Then there are the White Mountain's and the other custom guys out there. Good luck.

[HAWKEYE6MM]

TWO-70, I'm feeling good to see you use 90 gr 777. I shoot 80 gr 777 to hit bullseyes at 25yds in my yard. As soon as I get the 14x on my encore, I will slowly increase my distance and granular amounts to DISTANCE PERFECTION.

To turkn8r1, by the way, at your leasure, please explain your handle. Why not play with me to develope a repeatable, average load for maybe 400-500 yds? PICTURE THIS....Your on the battlefield, 500yds from the COMMANDER , would you...

I would love to be able to put 3 holes in a triangle, on a sheet of cardboard at 800yrds. Think it's possible?

[nathangdad]

You did not mention caliber, but I will take a chance on you wanting to hunt so it will be a .50 or .50+ caliber. Check the regulations for the area in which you wish to hunt as restrictions on certain designs may apply.
It is better to be forearmed with knowledge.

You would not go wrong with a Thompson Center although all of the
major manufacturers have high quality firearms.

The big thing with a muzzleloader is practice as you are dealing with
a distinctively different trajectory than, say, a .30-06.

Anyway, good shooting and good hunting.

[petemi]

I sent a New England Firearms Handi Rifle. SB2, back to the factory for a 24 inch stainless .50 cal. Huntsman barrel. Including shipping, handling, an offset hammer spur and scope rail, the whole thing was less than $150.00. I put it all together and shot conical bullets and sabots and found my best load to be a 470gr. Thompson Center Maxi Hunter and two Tripple 7 50gr. pellets. The load shoots 30 to 32 inches low at 300 yards, but is extremely accurate. I know where it is going at that distance and know that the big slug will take out a deer at that distance. As soon as the snow gets out of here, hopefully by July 15th or so, I'll work with three pellets and flatten out that trajectory if I can. It is hell trudging back and forth 300 yards on snow shoes to reset targets.

An opinion, if I may. Everyone talks about "flat shooting" "High velocity" etc. I personally don't care if my bullet curves up to the moon and back as long as it hits the target with the needed accuracy and energy. They shot the venerable .45-70 in tests with black powder at two miles. I also believe if a rifle is a tack driver at 100 yards, it'll do the same at any reasonable distance. It's just up to the guy behind the trigger to figure it out. I can shoot woodchucks with my muzzleloaders and .45-70 at 200 to 300 yards. The absolutely amazing thing is that my .22-250 can do the same thing, imagine that!!! My.308 will shoot accurately farther than I can see in its 3 - 9 scope. Its all just figuring out trajectory based on load/distance, and learning to judge wind, morning after shakes, things like that!

[Sooner Shooter]

Two-70 I'm still shooting an old Thompson Center/Hawkin and think it's a very good gun. I love Thompson Center firearms but remember reading an article in an outdoor magazine comparing low cost, med, and expensive inline muzzle loaders. Kodiak magnum, Thompson Encore, and another make about $900. The Kodiak Magnum was right there with them on accuracy. Can't remember any details on the trigger but for the money I believe a Kodiak Magnum might be the best one out there. Love the looks of the Encore though but looks don't shoot! SS

Originally Posted by two-70

the best you could do would be the new TC Encore but are very expensive, i shoot the CVA Kodiak Mag. with black synthetic stock and nickle barrel, the gun with 90 grains of loose triple 7 and a 295 grain power belt hollow point will shoot bullet hole inside bullet hole at 50 yards, have not shot it at any farther distance because all my shots are under 50 yards, i believe it would do 150 yards easily.

[HAWKEYE50]

I've been shooting my t/c the last two days and loving it. Get one and get started. I chose the ENCORE so I could re-barrel to other cal's, now I doubt I will. I look forward to finding my encore's limits. At paper of course, I would limit shots at 100yds or less. As was stated, there are some fine choices out there. I'm sighting in mine now, new scope. Check out my targets on my G&G blog.

[woodsman324]

I love my Savage smokeless. You can use smokeless or dirty powders, very good accuracy with a reasonable price.

[ShawnF]

For long range with a smoke pole, only one way to go... Muzzleloader - Best Muzzleloader - Custom Muzzleloader: Ultimate Firearms Inc. any questions, pm me.