AR based 6.5 Grendel

LarryO1970 · 03-17-2008, 12:55 PM

I am recently very intrigued with the 6.5 Grendel... does anybody else make a complete upper for the 6.5 other than Alexander Arms?

If not a complete upper, a 6.5 Grendel barrel/bolt combination ... how hard will it be to change out from a 5.56mm? Is it as simple as installing the bolt in the carrier group and just simply re barreling the upper receiver?

madcratebuilder · 03-18-2008, 08:32 AM

I looked at both the 6.5g and the 6.8spc. Went with the 6.8 because of cost and availability. Either way you need bolt, barrel and mags. Just build or buy a second upper. If I remember correctly, Alexander Arms holds the patent rights on the 6.5g and that is one reason you don't see others developing the round.

LarryO1970 · 03-18-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

I looked at both the 6.5g and the 6.8spc. Went with the 6.8 because of cost and availability. Either way you need bolt, barrel and mags. Just build or buy a second upper. If I remember correctly, Alexander Arms holds the patent rights on the 6.5g and that is one reason you don't see others developing the round.

It would make sense... good on them since it is quite the emerging long distance round...

I plan to buy a complete upper with some magazines so I can dimply switch out with the 5.56 version. Are the magazines really that different or is the follower just different?

soonerborn · 03-18-2008, 05:59 PM

Sabre Defence :: Commercial

Satern Custom Machining when accuracy counts, count on Satern.

Satern only has barrels and bolts I believe, Sabre has it all.
I looked into this round recently but went with a 204 from White Oak because I wanted it specifically for yote hunting. I believe I will buy either a 6.5 grendal or 300 whisper/fireball upper this year though.

Oh, and check out white oak too. Dunno if he makes the grendal but its worth a call to find out.

White Oak Armament POB 74 Carlock, IL 61725 (309) 376-2288

If you want long range accuracy I would look into these also

DTECH Superstore

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LarryO1970 · 03-18-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerborn

Sabre Defence :: Commercial

Satern Custom Machining when accuracy counts, count on Satern.

Satern only has barrels and bolts I believe, Sabre has it all.
I looked into this round recently but went with a 204 from White Oak because I wanted it specifically for yote hunting. I believe I will buy either a 6.5 grendal or 300 whisper/fireball upper this year though.

Oh, and check out white oak too. Dunno if he makes the grendal but its worth a call to find out.

White Oak Armament POB 74 Carlock, IL 61725 (309) 376-2288

If you want long range accuracy I would look into these also

DTECH Superstore

AR15 Conversions Accuracy Systems Inc Custom Gunsmithing AR15 AR10 Ruger Mini 14

You rock ... excellent resources, thank you !

evilblackrifle · 03-18-2008, 10:10 PM

Bushmaster makes a complete upper as well.

billy · 03-18-2008, 10:15 PM

i always wondered why they named this round after a character in BEOWULF?

LarryO1970 · 03-19-2008, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by evilblackrifle

Bushmaster makes a complete upper as well.

I had a bad experience with a Bushy upper and the customer service dept... so I'll probably steer clear.

They said the shooter was the problem, not the gun. Needless to say, the timing was off... (front sight was slightly kicked to the right)

Thanks anyway... sincerely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerborn

Sabre Defence :: Commercial

Satern Custom Machining when accuracy counts, count on Satern.

Satern only has barrels and bolts I believe, Sabre has it all.
I looked into this round recently but went with a 204 from White Oak because I wanted it specifically for yote hunting. I believe I will buy either a 6.5 grendal or 300 whisper/fireball upper this year though.

Oh, and check out white oak too. Dunno if he makes the grendal but its worth a call to find out.

White Oak Armament POB 74 Carlock, IL 61725 (309) 376-2288

If you want long range accuracy I would look into these also

DTECH Superstore

AR15 Conversions Accuracy Systems Inc Custom Gunsmithing AR15 AR10 Ruger Mini 14

Are you aware of any magazine followers to retro the 5.56 mags to 6.5? This would make things so much easier to convert completely over to 6.5 ...

Darkfront · 03-19-2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

i always wondered why they named this round after a character in BEOWULF?

Most likely because Alexander Arms also makes the .50 Beowulf round...

If you got into a close range match, the Beowulf would definitely win!

madcratebuilder · 03-19-2008, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerborn

Sabre Defence :: Commercial

Satern Custom Machining when accuracy counts, count on Satern.

Satern only has barrels and bolts I believe, Sabre has it all.
I looked into this round recently but went with a 204 from White Oak because I wanted it specifically for yote hunting. I believe I will buy either a 6.5 grendal or 300 whisper/fireball upper this year though.

Oh, and check out white oak too. Dunno if he makes the grendal but its worth a call to find out.

White Oak Armament POB 74 Carlock, IL 61725 (309) 376-2288

If you want long range accuracy I would look into these also

DTECH Superstore

AR15 Conversions Accuracy Systems Inc Custom Gunsmithing AR15 AR10 Ruger Mini 14

Thanks for the links, lot of good info.

Deersniper · 03-19-2008, 09:35 AM

I'd love to have one from Alexander Arms, what a flat shooter. The bullet has a great B/C, and it has been nailing milk jugs at 800 yds. It would make a great deer round. Try www.6.5 grendel .com

LarryO1970 · 03-19-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deersniper

I'd love to have one from Alexander Arms, what a flat shooter. The bullet has a great B/C, and it has been nailing milk jugs at 800 yds. It would make a great deer round. Try www.6.5 grendel .com

I'll either replace the 5.56mm or just get the 6.5 upper... either way, I like what I see.

billy · 03-19-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfront

Most likely because Alexander Arms also makes the .50 Beowulf round...

If you got into a close range match, the Beowulf would definitely win!

he did win .
he kept grendels head for a trophy if i remember right

LarryO1970 · 03-19-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

he did win .
he kept grendels head for a trophy if i remember right

Billy... I believe you are correct. I actually had no idea what a "Grendel" was so I had to look it up in mythology.

Pretty good name for the 6.5 caliber in my opinion.

soonerborn · 03-19-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Are you aware of any magazine followers to retro the 5.56 mags to 6.5? This would make things so much easier to convert completely over to 6.5 ...

Nope, but if you look here you will find all the info you need on it.

The 6.5 Grendel Forum :: For the 6.5 Grendel Aficionado - powered by vBulletin

also i forgot one more place I know of that makes excellent ARs that also makes one for the grendel

Les Baer AR-.223 Rifles

I would stay away from Bushy also, I know firsthand 3 separate people that have bought a complete AR from them and all 3 returned them. All 3 did get good service though, 1 asked outright for his money back the other 2 sent the guns back in to get "repaired". One of the guys only shot his twice when the bolt carrier came apart, luckily it wasnt an explosive type of coming apart.

LarryO1970 · 03-19-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerborn

Nope, but if you look here you will find all the info you need on it.

The 6.5 Grendel Forum :: For the 6.5 Grendel Aficionado - powered by vBulletin

also i forgot one more place I know of that makes excellent ARs that also makes one for the grendel

Les Baer AR-.223 Rifles

I would stay away from Bushy also, I know firsthand 3 separate people that have bought a complete AR from them and all 3 returned them. All 3 did get good service though, 1 asked outright for his money back the other 2 sent the guns back in to get "repaired". One of the guys only shot his twice when the bolt carrier came apart, luckily it wasnt an explosive type of coming apart.

The one I sent back came back with the exact same problem, as if they never touched it. I had to send it back a second time ... and when it returned, I simply just sold it.

Les Baer makes good stuff but a little too "ritzy" for my taste. Kinda like a Ferrari, you only take it out on nice days and you baby the hell out of it.

I like a shooter.

soonerborn · 03-19-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Les Baer makes good stuff but a little too "ritzy" for my taste. Kinda like a Ferrari, you only take it out on nice days and you baby the hell out of it.

I like a shooter.

Lol, my thoughts exactly.

Darkfront · 03-19-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

he did win .
he kept grendels head for a trophy if i remember right

Ripped his arm off and then killed his mom too! That sounds just like what the .50 Beowulf could do! But I'm threadjacking, and I apologize

soonerborn · 03-20-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkfront

Ripped his arm off and then killed his mom too! That sounds just like what the .50 Beowulf could do! But I'm threadjacking, and I apologize

Ah, but in the story after he killed his mom he cut off Grendel's head and carried it back as a trophy.

jmp8927 · 03-20-2008, 08:16 PM

Not if you go by the movie. Then he just ripped Grendal's arm off and had sex with his mom and never killed her. I know. I hate that movie.

Well that was off subject...lol

03-17-2008, 12:55 PM	#1
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,316 Trader Rating: (0)	AR based 6.5 Grendel I am recently very intrigued with the 6.5 Grendel... does anybody else make a complete upper for the 6.5 other than Alexander Arms? If not a complete upper, a 6.5 Grendel barrel/bolt combination ... how hard will it be to change out from a 5.56mm? Is it as simple as installing the bolt in the carrier group and just simply re barreling the upper receiver? __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!"

03-18-2008, 08:32 AM	#2
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 495 Trader Rating: (0)	I looked at both the 6.5g and the 6.8spc. Went with the 6.8 because of cost and availability. Either way you need bolt, barrel and mags. Just build or buy a second upper. If I remember correctly, Alexander Arms holds the patent rights on the 6.5g and that is one reason you don't see others developing the round. __________________ The difference between a hot dog and a weenie is a fine line.....

03-18-2008, 05:59 PM	#4
soonerborn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 282 Trader Rating: (0)	Sabre Defence :: Commercial Satern Custom Machining when accuracy counts, count on Satern. Satern only has barrels and bolts I believe, Sabre has it all. I looked into this round recently but went with a 204 from White Oak because I wanted it specifically for yote hunting. I believe I will buy either a 6.5 grendal or 300 whisper/fireball upper this year though. Oh, and check out white oak too. Dunno if he makes the grendal but its worth a call to find out. White Oak Armament POB 74 Carlock, IL 61725 (309) 376-2288 If you want long range accuracy I would look into these also DTECH Superstore AR15 Conversions Accuracy Systems Inc Custom Gunsmithing AR15 AR10 Ruger Mini 14 Last edited by soonerborn; 03-18-2008 at 06:01 PM.

03-18-2008, 10:10 PM	#6
evilblackrifle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0)	Bushmaster makes a complete upper as well. __________________ The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree.

03-18-2008, 10:15 PM	#7
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	i always wondered why they named this round after a character in BEOWULF? __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

03-19-2008, 09:35 AM	#11
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,333 Trader Rating: (0)	6.5 Grendel I'd love to have one from Alexander Arms, what a flat shooter. The bullet has a great B/C, and it has been nailing milk jugs at 800 yds. It would make a great deer round. Try www.6.5 grendel .com

03-20-2008, 08:16 PM	#20
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,101 Trader Rating: (0)	Not if you go by the movie. Then he just ripped Grendal's arm off and had sex with his mom and never killed her. I know. I hate that movie. Well that was off subject...lol __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.