Still use Windex to clean?

Sins-of-Mosin · 03-17-2008, 05:57 PM

Been quite a while since I last visited this hobby so some of my info is either missing or I'm just not sure of.

I used to clean my barrel after a range visit with Windex, is that still recommend? Or, is there a new method that has proven to work better?

Thanks.

squirrelbaster · 03-17-2008, 06:00 PM

if your talking about carossive ammo then yes i clean first with windex then again with the hoppes #9

Sins-of-Mosin · 03-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Ok, I remember putting a nice amount of Windex down the barrel but exactly how do you use the Hoppes? Do you put some on a rag and run it thru the barrel a few times?

BaserRonin · 03-17-2008, 06:18 PM

The windex is just to nullify the salt in the barrel to keep it from rusting. The Hoppes you would use to actually clean the rifle afterwards.

so yes, patch, crush, bore cleaner, normal stuff. The only magic is getting that salt from the corrosive primers neutralized with Windex or whatever the flavour of the month is

texnmidwest · 03-17-2008, 06:25 PM

Use Windex in generous amounts at the range. Spray the barrel and action. If shooting with bayonet extended make sure to windex that as well. Then follow with Hoppes. Best thing to use is a bore snake! They are the best money anyone will ever spend on cleaning equipment. I keep one in my range box and one at home. Soak the top of the bore snake in hoppes, pull it through a time or two and you are done.

I sometimes follow the Windex with WD40 to chase the water out. I found that it will take finish off the stock of you are not careful.

My message to american shooters: BUY A BORE SNAKE.

Sins-of-Mosin · 03-17-2008, 06:37 PM

I think I do or did have a bore snake. Sadly I can't check as my stuff is in Iowa until my FOID card arrives. I don't even want to think how long it'll be before I'm reunited with my babies.

texnmidwest · 03-17-2008, 06:40 PM

I will say this before Billy does, I live just north of you. Have them shipped to me and I will keep them company until your FOID card arrives. Of course, you can come for a visit anytime.

marion57 · 03-17-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sins-of-Mosin

Been quite a while since I last visited this hobby so some of my info is either missing or I'm just not sure of.

I used to clean my barrel after a range visit with Windex, is that still recommend? Or, is there a new method that has proven to work better?

Thanks.

everyone is different in there opinon on windex.. If you close to home and clean right away like I am and do you dont need the windex in my opinon if you use hoppes9..
That being said if you cant clean them in a hr or so go ahead and use the windex and a couple of patches with hoppes on them then clean when you get home ..
I run a bore snake thro mine then clean them with hoppes an then oil lightly

texnmidwest · 03-17-2008, 07:47 PM

So Marion, I want to understand what you are saying about cleaning. If I understand right you run a bore snake with Hoppes through the bore at the range then clean up with more hoppe's at home? Do you use soap and warm water when you get home? To clean the rifle, Marion. We ALL know the answer to the other.

There is so much info out there about different ways to clean. Gets confusing after a while. Do you use only Hoppe's and gun oil? I read somewhere that only using hoppes will keep the salts next to the barrel but not remove them. I also read somewhere that Hoppes was the only gun solvent specifically designed to clean corrosive ammo salts.

What is your understanding?

SwedeSteve · 03-17-2008, 07:48 PM

I like Windex because it doesn't leave any streaks!

billy · 03-17-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

I will say this before Billy does, I live just north of you. Have them shipped to me and I will keep them company until your FOID card arrives. Of course, you can come for a visit anytime.

TeX,
you are way too irresponsible to take care of this fine citizens precious mosins.
i however will take it upon myself to see to it that they get the best of care.
no need to thank me.
it's my cross to bear.

Sins-of-Mosin · 03-17-2008, 08:28 PM

Thats nice that you both offered but I'd hate to see what UPS would charge to ship a few hundred pounds of ammo too. Oh well, I want to see a Cedar Rapids Kernels game anyway so Iowa or bust.

texnmidwest · 03-17-2008, 08:29 PM

Sir Billy. Alas, I must admit you speak wisedom.

In truth I would just clean them up and shoot them until they smoke!

billy · 03-17-2008, 08:34 PM

i dont shoot any of my guns.
i wipe them down with a lint free cloth and put them in a temperature controlled vault with soft music piped in.

SwedeSteve · 03-17-2008, 10:35 PM

Yeah, and it's getting CROWDED in here!

Paper · 03-17-2008, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texnmidwest

I will say this before Billy does, I live just north of you. Have them shipped to me and I will keep them company until your FOID card arrives. Of course, you can come for a visit anytime.

No no no!!
You should get your weapons used to being with someone who has a FOID card.. Me..

Everyone knows Wisconsin people are evil.. IL people are salt of the earth, even more so if they have a FOID..

Don't forget to bring me your ammo, too.. I'll keep it in a safe place, and give it all back to you (minus the bullet and powder)..

marion57 · 03-18-2008, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texnmidwest

So Marion, I want to understand what you are saying about cleaning. If I understand right you run a bore snake with Hoppes through the bore at the range then clean up with more hoppe's at home? Do you use soap and warm water when you get home? To clean the rifle, Marion. We ALL know the answer to the other.

There is so much info out there about different ways to clean. Gets confusing after a while. Do you use only Hoppe's and gun oil? I read somewhere that only using hoppes will keep the salts next to the barrel but not remove them. I also read somewhere that Hoppes was the only gun solvent specifically designed to clean corrosive ammo salts.

What is your understanding?

Bore snake and no hoppes, then patch with hoppes,then break free clp..
Everyone needs to remember the info on corosive ammo is 60 + yrs old they didnt have the modern cleaning materials we have today ..Almost all except the cheapest cleaning solutions of today remove copper fouling and residue..I think I bore snake does a lot to remove corosive , that being said I love hoppe no 9

Big Dog · 03-18-2008, 05:01 AM

Windex is for windows. I use Birchwood-Casey Bore Scrubber - it has far more ammonia than windex, is made for firearms, and one jar will last a long time. Don't need the Hoppes.
Swab the bore with the Bore Scrubber and let sit a couple minutes. Then dry-swab it. Then use CLP or your favorite gun oil.
Never a problem with corrosion, even in humid Florida!

LefthandShooter · 03-18-2008, 06:00 AM

Not to sound like a know-nothing from Ohio but what is a FOID?

texnmidwest · 03-18-2008, 06:35 AM

Well, just read the above post about Paper and you will see it stands for

Found On Interstate Deranged.

03-17-2008, 05:57 PM	#1
Sins-of-Mosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IL Posts: 194 Blog Entries: 3	Still use Windex to clean? Been quite a while since I last visited this hobby so some of my info is either missing or I'm just not sure of. I used to clean my barrel after a range visit with Windex, is that still recommend? Or, is there a new method that has proven to work better? Thanks.

03-17-2008, 06:18 PM	#4
BaserRonin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a Dark Cubicle Posts: 371	The windex is just to nullify the salt in the barrel to keep it from rusting. The Hoppes you would use to actually clean the rifle afterwards. so yes, patch, crush, bore cleaner, normal stuff. The only magic is getting that salt from the corrosive primers neutralized with Windex or whatever the flavour of the month is __________________ "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge Last edited by BaserRonin; 03-17-2008 at 06:20 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-17-2008, 06:25 PM	#5
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,357	Use Windex in generous amounts at the range. Spray the barrel and action. If shooting with bayonet extended make sure to windex that as well. Then follow with Hoppes. Best thing to use is a bore snake! They are the best money anyone will ever spend on cleaning equipment. I keep one in my range box and one at home. Soak the top of the bore snake in hoppes, pull it through a time or two and you are done. I sometimes follow the Windex with WD40 to chase the water out. I found that it will take finish off the stock of you are not careful. My message to american shooters: BUY A BORE SNAKE. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-17-2008, 06:40 PM	#7
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,357	I will say this before Billy does, I live just north of you. Have them shipped to me and I will keep them company until your FOID card arrives. Of course, you can come for a visit anytime. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-17-2008, 07:48 PM	#10
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,251 Images: 1	I like Windex because it doesn't leave any streaks! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-17-2008, 06:00 PM	#2
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,230	if your talking about carossive ammo then yes i clean first with windex then again with the hoppes #9

03-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#3
Sins-of-Mosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IL Posts: 194 Blog Entries: 3	Ok, I remember putting a nice amount of Windex down the barrel but exactly how do you use the Hoppes? Do you put some on a rag and run it thru the barrel a few times?

03-17-2008, 06:37 PM	#6
Sins-of-Mosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IL Posts: 194 Blog Entries: 3	I think I do or did have a bore snake. Sadly I can't check as my stuff is in Iowa until my FOID card arrives. I don't even want to think how long it'll be before I'm reunited with my babies.

03-17-2008, 07:47 PM	#9
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,357	So Marion, I want to understand what you are saying about cleaning. If I understand right you run a bore snake with Hoppes through the bore at the range then clean up with more hoppe's at home? Do you use soap and warm water when you get home? To clean the rifle, Marion. We ALL know the answer to the other. There is so much info out there about different ways to clean. Gets confusing after a while. Do you use only Hoppe's and gun oil? I read somewhere that only using hoppes will keep the salts next to the barrel but not remove them. I also read somewhere that Hoppes was the only gun solvent specifically designed to clean corrosive ammo salts. What is your understanding? __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-17-2008, 08:28 PM	#12
Sins-of-Mosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IL Posts: 194 Blog Entries: 3	Thats nice that you both offered but I'd hate to see what UPS would charge to ship a few hundred pounds of ammo too. Oh well, I want to see a Cedar Rapids Kernels game anyway so Iowa or bust.

03-17-2008, 08:29 PM	#13
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,357	Sir Billy. Alas, I must admit you speak wisedom. In truth I would just clean them up and shoot them until they smoke! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-17-2008, 08:34 PM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,921 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 145	i dont shoot any of my guns. i wipe them down with a lint free cloth and put them in a temperature controlled vault with soft music piped in. __________________ internet yards and real yards are completely different units of measure.

03-17-2008, 10:35 PM	#15
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,251 Images: 1	Yeah, and it's getting CROWDED in here! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-18-2008, 05:01 AM	#18
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,201	Windex is for windows. I use Birchwood-Casey Bore Scrubber - it has far more ammonia than windex, is made for firearms, and one jar will last a long time. Don't need the Hoppes. Swab the bore with the Bore Scrubber and let sit a couple minutes. Then dry-swab it. Then use CLP or your favorite gun oil. Never a problem with corrosion, even in humid Florida! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

03-18-2008, 06:00 AM	#19
LefthandShooter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In A House in NE Ohio! Posts: 1,430	Not to sound like a know-nothing from Ohio but what is a FOID? __________________ A dead bird is still a dead bird.

03-18-2008, 06:35 AM	#20
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,357	Well, just read the above post about Paper and you will see it stands for Found On Interstate Deranged. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)