long range help

JC506 · 02-24-2008, 09:23 PM

Zossen,Germany was the first tournoment(free style) I had won at the distance of 1760 yards. I used a Barrett AW-50 50 cal BMG and got a 1.66 inch group. The guy who got second place used a small caliber for this distance(Mauser 98 8mmx57); and got a 2.12 inch group. What would be the best starting caliber for a person who is new to this distance? Is a .50 cal overkill?

MgMn48 · 02-26-2008, 10:51 PM

You think 8mm mauser is a small caliber? Compared to a 50 maybe but, it is still a big round. Before you take my advice, know that I have never shot anything over 200 yards. I would probably use a 30-06, simply because I could never afford a 50. 30-06 is slightly larger than the mauser(7.62x63mm) and is the right balance of bullet weight to powder. It flies straight and isn't affected by wind as much as smaller round (.223, .243, etc.). It was meant to hit a target a 1100 yards, bare sight. If you have a 50 use it. Unless you are shooting rabbits its not overkill.

A-10 · 02-27-2008, 06:13 AM

Actually "8mm mauser" is 7.92 mm. Maybe you should look into a few of the newer long range cartriges ie. 338, 300 win mag, or even 408 Cheytac or .416 barret. But as said before, sadly, I have never shot anything beyond 300 yards.

thebigitch62 · 02-27-2008, 06:22 AM

the .416 barret looks awful inpressive. I just watched a show on the military channel where they were getting a nice group at 2500 yards. but it might of been churched up for T.V.

samuel · 02-27-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JC506

Zossen,Germany was the first tournoment(free style) I had won at the distance of 1760 yards. I used a Barrett AW-50 50 cal BMG and got a 1.66 inch group. The guy who got second place used a small caliber for this distance(Mauser 98 8mmx57); and got a 2.12 inch group. What would be the best starting caliber for a person who is new to this distance? Is a .50 cal overkill?

That sounds 'different'.What kind of contest competes an 8mm against a .50BMG?.Who is trying to shoot 1760yds with an8MM Mauser? sam.

genwinters · 02-27-2008, 10:01 AM

look into the cheytac .408. they have great ballistics at long range

JC506 · 02-27-2008, 09:20 PM

to answer Samuels question this is a freestyle competition which means the shooter can use any caliber he or she wants. the person whos name i cannot give out but he is austrian and a veteran of world war II; and he is very good. thanks for the help

JC506 · 02-27-2008, 09:29 PM

thanks for the help guys. To answer some of your questions, this competition the shooter can use any caliber he or she wants. And to calrify its not a 7.92x57 he modified it to be 8mm. dont ask me why but he has been shooting at this distance longer than i have and i trust he has a good reason. Im not at liberity to reveal this persons name but he is a veteran of World War II and he is russian

A-10 · 02-28-2008, 06:14 AM

A WWII Russian veteran that perfers to shoot a Mauser. That's interesting. Oh well, to each his own.

Magnumsrule · 02-28-2008, 08:09 PM

The 338 Lapua is supposed to be better than the 50 bmg with a smaller case.

Silent Shooter · 03-12-2008, 11:36 AM

I have to call BS on this one for several reasons...

1.) You are talking about a drop of about 500 inches over the course of a mile.

2.) You would be the current World Record holder (By about 3 inches).

3.) I can't even figure out what MOA that would be.

rfc357 · 03-18-2008, 01:55 PM

Pile O' BS. That's 0.094 MOA. Modified a 7.92 to an 8mm? Give me a break. They don't use yards in Germany. 1760 yards is exactly a statute mile.

Someone with more imagination than shooting ability.

simpleman601 · 03-25-2008, 05:30 PM

the person whos name i cannot give out but he is austrian and a veteran of world war II.........Im not at liberity to reveal this persons name but he is a veteran of World War II and he is russian ??????????????

A-10 · 03-25-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by simpleman601

the person whos name i cannot give out but he is austrian and a veteran of world war II.........Im not at liberity to reveal this persons name but he is a veteran of World War II and he is russian ??????????????

I'm not the only one that noticed that?

simpleman601 · 03-25-2008, 05:57 PM

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I'm not the only one that noticed that?

Guess not i pick up on things like that. I just thought it seemed rather odd.

A-10 · 03-25-2008, 06:01 PM

Too bad people have to make up stories like these.
I wonder what he thinks he's gained from pulling our chains?

simpleman601 · 03-25-2008, 06:15 PM

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Too bad people have to make up stories like these.
I wonder what he thinks he's gained from pulling our chains?

I dunno i could understand getting austrailan and austrian mixed up but austria and russia?? Just couldn't figure it out.

billy · 03-25-2008, 06:38 PM

i try to make all of my lies plausible.

simpleman601 · 03-25-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

i try to make all of my lies plausible.

HAHA give it time we'll catch ya in one... Nice peashooter BTW billy just saw it on taurus forum

billy · 03-25-2008, 06:42 PM

well ya caught me.
thats my moms gun........

02-24-2008, 09:23 PM	#1
JC506 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 13	long range help Zossen,Germany was the first tournoment(free style) I had won at the distance of 1760 yards. I used a Barrett AW-50 50 cal BMG and got a 1.66 inch group. The guy who got second place used a small caliber for this distance(Mauser 98 8mmx57); and got a 2.12 inch group. What would be the best starting caliber for a person who is new to this distance? Is a .50 cal overkill?

02-27-2008, 06:13 AM	#3
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 732	Actually "8mm mauser" is 7.92 mm. Maybe you should look into a few of the newer long range cartriges ie. 338, 300 win mag, or even 408 Cheytac or .416 barret. But as said before, sadly, I have never shot anything beyond 300 yards. __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

02-28-2008, 06:14 AM	#9
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 732	A WWII Russian veteran that perfers to shoot a Mauser. That's interesting. Oh well, to each his own. __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

02-28-2008, 08:09 PM	#10
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 2	The 338 Lapua is supposed to be better than the 50 bmg with a smaller case. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

03-12-2008, 11:36 AM	#11
Silent Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 292	I have to call BS on this one for several reasons... 1.) You are talking about a drop of about 500 inches over the course of a mile. 2.) You would be the current World Record holder (By about 3 inches). 3.) I can't even figure out what MOA that would be. Last edited by Silent Shooter; 03-12-2008 at 02:12 PM.

02-26-2008, 10:51 PM	#2
MgMn48 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38	You think 8mm mauser is a small caliber? Compared to a 50 maybe but, it is still a big round. Before you take my advice, know that I have never shot anything over 200 yards. I would probably use a 30-06, simply because I could never afford a 50. 30-06 is slightly larger than the mauser(7.62x63mm) and is the right balance of bullet weight to powder. It flies straight and isn't affected by wind as much as smaller round (.223, .243, etc.). It was meant to hit a target a 1100 yards, bare sight. If you have a 50 use it. Unless you are shooting rabbits its not overkill.

02-27-2008, 06:22 AM	#4
thebigitch62 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Port Orchard Wa Posts: 107	the .416 barret looks awful inpressive. I just watched a show on the military channel where they were getting a nice group at 2500 yards. but it might of been churched up for T.V.

02-27-2008, 10:01 AM	#6
genwinters Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Plymouth, MI Posts: 309	look into the cheytac .408. they have great ballistics at long range

02-27-2008, 09:20 PM	#7
JC506 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 13	to answer Samuels question this is a freestyle competition which means the shooter can use any caliber he or she wants. the person whos name i cannot give out but he is austrian and a veteran of world war II; and he is very good. thanks for the help

02-27-2008, 09:29 PM	#8
JC506 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 13	thanks for the help guys. To answer some of your questions, this competition the shooter can use any caliber he or she wants. And to calrify its not a 7.92x57 he modified it to be 8mm. dont ask me why but he has been shooting at this distance longer than i have and i trust he has a good reason. Im not at liberity to reveal this persons name but he is a veteran of World War II and he is russian

03-18-2008, 01:55 PM	#12
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	Pile O' BS. That's 0.094 MOA. Modified a 7.92 to an 8mm? Give me a break. They don't use yards in Germany. 1760 yards is exactly a statute mile. Someone with more imagination than shooting ability.

03-25-2008, 05:30 PM	#13
simpleman601 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 84	the person whos name i cannot give out but he is austrian and a veteran of world war II.........Im not at liberity to reveal this persons name but he is a veteran of World War II and he is russian ??????????????

03-25-2008, 06:01 PM	#16
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 732	Too bad people have to make up stories like these. I wonder what he thinks he's gained from pulling our chains? __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

03-25-2008, 06:38 PM	#18
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,106 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i try to make all of my lies plausible. __________________

03-25-2008, 06:42 PM	#20
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,106 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	well ya caught me. thats my moms gun........ __________________