Enfield question

roadie · 03-19-2008, 08:08 PM

Sorry to any who read the gunsmith threads...I posted this question there as well to maximize info gathering...

Do any of you know if it would be worth it, if it's even possible and how much (ballpark) it might cost to change the caliber of an enfield from british .303 to 7.62x54r or any other closely matching caliber. I know the bore would have to be redone, as well as the chamber and maybe even the mag. I ask because I really want one of the enfield rifles, but am concerned with not only the cost, but the availability of the ammo. British .303 is expensive, and the mosin nagant 7.62x54r is really cheap by comparison. It's something I willl base my enfield purchase decision on, if it's to costly to shoot it, then i'd almost rather not have one. Thanks for any advise and info.

texnmidwest · 03-19-2008, 08:32 PM

Can it be done? Yes. Will it cost more than the price you pay for the enfield? Yes, probably. If you figure in the cost of the rifle plus the chambering I think you would be able to buy a lot of that "expensive" ammo for the cost of rechambering.

I like the Enfield. One can find them chambered in 308 as well.

My advice would be to keep the 303 brit chambering and have fun.

Mooseman684 · 03-19-2008, 09:09 PM

Buy a Mosin...Sell the Enfield or put it away untill you find some Milsurp ammo !!!
Rich

roadie · 03-19-2008, 10:21 PM

Hmm, well I don't actually have the enfield yet, I was just wondering before I bought it. I do however have a mosin, and will have a few more wen the c&r finally arrives. Maybe i will just keep my eyes peeled for a .308 enfield.

LouMG · 03-20-2008, 05:32 PM

Why not buy a 308. Enfield made them in the 60's at the Ishapore arsenal. I got one from SOG (Southern Ohio Gun) for $189 with my 03FFL. Anyone interested in Mil-Surp guns should apply for one. It is easy and cheap $30 for 3 years and wholesalers can deliver old guns to your door.
Lou

cheapblaster · 03-21-2008, 08:18 PM

Roadie,

When your C&R arrives check out SOG. They have Enfields in .308 available as C&R guns, made in Ishapore, India in the 1960s. They claim "very good condition" and have a $170 price tag. Are they any good? I'll never know. The State of California has banned any mags that hold more than 10 rounds. These come with a 12 round mag. Which irks me, I'd love to get one because of the wider availability of .308. But I can't.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 03-22-2008, 09:34 PM

I collect old military rifles. I own and shoot the .303 Enfield Mark I and Mark IV and the Ishapore .308. Although in my opinion the Enfilds are the UGLIEST rifle ever made they shoot like a knife through butter. They are relatively easy to clean. There is not a lot of difference shooting any of them. The actions are very smooth. The safeties easy to use and understand. I shoot just about every WWII Military rifle. Why waste your time and money transforming a rifle when you can just buy a .308 Ishapore.

irish murphy · 03-24-2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

I collect old military rifles. I own and shoot the .303 Enfield Mark I and Mark IV and the Ishapore .308. Although in my opinion the Enfilds are the UGLIEST rifle ever made they shoot like a knife through butter. They are relatively easy to clean. There is not a lot of difference shooting any of them. The actions are very smooth. The safeties easy to use and understand. I shoot just about every WWII Military rifle. Why waste your time and money transforming a rifle when you can just buy a .308 Ishapore.

Wash your mouth out,thats disgusting saying an enfield is ugly.I should come over and poke your eyes out hahahahhahahhaha.

timberlord · 03-24-2008, 05:30 AM

My ugly '68 RFI 2A1 7.62nato

billy · 03-24-2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by irish murphy

Wash your mouth out,thats disgusting saying an enfield is ugly.I should come over and poke your eyes out hahahahhahahhaha.

texnmidwest · 03-24-2008, 06:50 AM

Well Said Timberlord and Billy! Here is another thing....

billy · 03-24-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish murphy

Wash your mouth out,thats disgusting saying an enfield is ugly.I should come over and poke your eyes out hahahahhahahhaha.

dont poke his eyeballs off irish!

LakerDad · 03-24-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapblaster

Roadie,

When your C&R arrives check out SOG. They have Enfields in .308 available as C&R guns, made in Ishapore, India in the 1960s. They claim "very good condition" and have a $170 price tag. Are they any good? I'll never know. The State of California has banned any mags that hold more than 10 rounds. These come with a 12 round mag. Which irks me, I'd love to get one because of the wider availability of .308. But I can't.

cheapblaster, I got mine a couple of years ago @ $169 plus $10 for select. As you stated they come with the 12 round mag. I think the supplier of my rifle was sending them out to Kaliforia with the 10 round mag. You might do a phone call to see if SOG will do something like that for you. Just a thought.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 03-24-2008, 11:41 PM

Better watch it I have a gun. HA HA HA HA

irish murphy · 03-25-2008, 05:17 AM

Hahhahahahaha and i dont????

Capt'n Mil Coll · 03-25-2008, 11:22 PM

Course ya do. As do we all on here. But I wasnt comming over to poke yer eyes out. But I understand what ya mean. Here now say this once for every rifle you own.

"This Is My Rifle"
THIS IS MY RIFLE. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life.

My rifle, without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will....

My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count.
We will hit...

My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.

So be it, until there is no enemy, but Peace!

irish murphy · 03-26-2008, 08:44 AM

Nah you can GAGS for all your talk bloke.I dont need to syke myself up.I know what i own and i know what is asked of me.I dont need god or anybody else to answer my questions and i certainly dont need god or any other people telling me what im going to shoot with my rifle.God willing you can do what ever the hell you like.Just dont expect my blasphesus ass to wish you any good with your god ways bro.

03-19-2008, 08:08 PM	#1
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (0)	Enfield question Sorry to any who read the gunsmith threads...I posted this question there as well to maximize info gathering... Do any of you know if it would be worth it, if it's even possible and how much (ballpark) it might cost to change the caliber of an enfield from british .303 to 7.62x54r or any other closely matching caliber. I know the bore would have to be redone, as well as the chamber and maybe even the mag. I ask because I really want one of the enfield rifles, but am concerned with not only the cost, but the availability of the ammo. British .303 is expensive, and the mosin nagant 7.62x54r is really cheap by comparison. It's something I willl base my enfield purchase decision on, if it's to costly to shoot it, then i'd almost rather not have one. Thanks for any advise and info. __________________ Blaming guns for violent acts is like blaming the keyboard for your poor spelling.

03-19-2008, 08:32 PM	#2
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	Can it be done? Yes. Will it cost more than the price you pay for the enfield? Yes, probably. If you figure in the cost of the rifle plus the chambering I think you would be able to buy a lot of that "expensive" ammo for the cost of rechambering. I like the Enfield. One can find them chambered in 308 as well. My advice would be to keep the 303 brit chambering and have fun. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-19-2008, 09:09 PM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,272 Trader Rating: (0)	Buy a Mosin...Sell the Enfield or put it away untill you find some Milsurp ammo !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-19-2008, 10:21 PM	#4
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmm, well I don't actually have the enfield yet, I was just wondering before I bought it. I do however have a mosin, and will have a few more wen the c&r finally arrives. Maybe i will just keep my eyes peeled for a .308 enfield. __________________ Blaming guns for violent acts is like blaming the keyboard for your poor spelling.

03-20-2008, 05:32 PM	#5
LouMG Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NY Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	308 Why not buy a 308. Enfield made them in the 60's at the Ishapore arsenal. I got one from SOG (Southern Ohio Gun) for $189 with my 03FFL. Anyone interested in Mil-Surp guns should apply for one. It is easy and cheap $30 for 3 years and wholesalers can deliver old guns to your door. Lou

03-21-2008, 08:18 PM	#6
cheapblaster Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay area, California Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0)	Roadie, When your C&R arrives check out SOG. They have Enfields in .308 available as C&R guns, made in Ishapore, India in the 1960s. They claim "very good condition" and have a $170 price tag. Are they any good? I'll never know. The State of California has banned any mags that hold more than 10 rounds. These come with a 12 round mag. Which irks me, I'd love to get one because of the wider availability of .308. But I can't.

03-22-2008, 09:34 PM	#7
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,063 Trader Rating: (0)	I collect old military rifles. I own and shoot the .303 Enfield Mark I and Mark IV and the Ishapore .308. Although in my opinion the Enfilds are the UGLIEST rifle ever made they shoot like a knife through butter. They are relatively easy to clean. There is not a lot of difference shooting any of them. The actions are very smooth. The safeties easy to use and understand. I shoot just about every WWII Military rifle. Why waste your time and money transforming a rifle when you can just buy a .308 Ishapore.

03-24-2008, 05:30 AM	#9
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	My ugly '68 RFI 2A1 7.62nato __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg

03-24-2008, 06:50 AM	#11
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	Well Said Timberlord and Billy! Here is another thing.... __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-24-2008, 11:41 PM	#14
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Better watch it I have a gun. HA HA HA HA

03-25-2008, 05:17 AM	#15
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	Hahhahahahaha and i dont????

03-25-2008, 11:22 PM	#16
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Course ya do. As do we all on here. But I wasnt comming over to poke yer eyes out. But I understand what ya mean. Here now say this once for every rifle you own. "This Is My Rifle" THIS IS MY RIFLE. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life. My rifle, without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will.... My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit... My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will... Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but Peace!

03-26-2008, 08:44 AM	#17
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	Nah you can GAGS for all your talk bloke.I dont need to syke myself up.I know what i own and i know what is asked of me.I dont need god or anybody else to answer my questions and i certainly dont need god or any other people telling me what im going to shoot with my rifle.God willing you can do what ever the hell you like.Just dont expect my blasphesus ass to wish you any good with your god ways bro.