My M44 bit me!! - Page 2

lefty o · 03-19-2008, 08:50 PM

picture you bolt with a handle welded on the other side, now picture opening the bolt. where is the handle going to go????

toolman · 03-19-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jmp8927

Ok so the idea of it being made left handed kinda carried me away lol I like messing with firearms. So, I think this would work.

Basically it's a bolt that has a piece welded on the top of the handle and taking a 90 degree turn and extending past the left side of the rifle so it can be grabbed with the left hand like a right handed person would grab it. It could be cleaned up to look nice and the regular handle could be cut off and cleaned up to be nice and smooth, or be left where it is.

Hate to rain on your parade, but how are you going to cycle it since the bolt rotates counter-clockwise?

jmp8927 · 03-19-2008, 09:02 PM

Pull to the left and down. Rotates the bolt counter clockwise and the piece going upwards from the original bolt allows enough clearance for the modded part to clear the left side of the rifle. It would look funky, but I believe it would work. May need to work on the general shape a little to allow the bolt to be turned easier. Also might be better to put a semicircular piece on the end rather than the nob because to rotate the bolt, it would require more of a pulling to the left as well as down.

texnmidwest · 03-19-2008, 09:07 PM

I think you are on to something there JMP! But maybe instead of the bolt handle you could install a servo motor. That way when you want to work the bolt you press a button in the side of the stock or receiver and the servo rotates the bolt counterclockwise and back.

That started out as a tongue in cheek post designed to annoy you and as I wrote it I started thinking that would really be a cool thing! Kinda like an electric auto loader!

jmp8927 · 03-19-2008, 09:27 PM

LOL ^ it's fine. It may or may not work the way I'm thinking about. I painted another pic from a different angle to give y'all a better idea of what I mean. Of course the shape could be changed to make it look better.

elmer fudd · 03-19-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepurplem0nkey

Lefthand, I feel your pain as a fellow lefty. I havent had any problems with the bayo, but I took a healthy chunk of skin off my thumb trying to operate the bolt with my right hand. Is there any way, short of redesigning the entire rifle, of altering it to the bolt faces to the left? I'd love to buy one as a project to work on if that was at all possible for an amatuer to do.
-TPM

Im left handed too while i shoot left handed and i shoot a bolt action and my pump shotgun throws it down the so it doesnt wizz passed my eye. and a nother option for a rifle is a lever action.

Deersniper · 03-19-2008, 10:50 PM

Now your blood brothers, That is a good idea, extending the bolt handle. It should be legal, huh?

Paper · 03-19-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Wonder what the Russian word for Bonzai is?

I checked on Babelfish..
The Russian word for Bonzai is...

Bonzai

just_a_car · 03-19-2008, 11:01 PM

That's a neat idea jmp... I'm not a lefty, but I'd be willing to weld something like that together.

I'm not a welder either, but my dad taught me some basic stuff with brazing, soldering, and oxy-acetylene welding (of an exhaust system).

ArkansasHunter · 03-19-2008, 11:48 PM

Hasn't anyone one considered what this poor man has had happen to him ?
When that Mossin bit him he got a huge influx of Mossinitus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soon he will be searching the world over to buy all the Mossins he can find !
His family will go hungry and he'll loose his home, he'll quit his job and go to stealing to buy Mossin Nagant rifles.
Can somebody Hep him ??? LOL !

Mooseman684 · 03-19-2008, 11:48 PM

You wont get enough leverage with the bolt that way....

marion57 · 03-20-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

You wont get enough leverage with the bolt that way....

LHS maybe you just need to start collecting only left handed rifles??LOL
just think you could become famous for a large collection of left handed rifles ..Just wouldnt be any mosins in it !!

I am also a Left handed shooter and have never had any of mine bite me!!
does that mean they dont love me???

minkowski1552 · 03-20-2008, 12:24 AM

I agree with Marion. Take off the bayonet and shoot it like the Barry Pepper, the sniper in Saving Private Ryan.

R5CYA · 03-20-2008, 01:35 AM

i just don't see the problem being left handed and using the bolt with the right hand. now i really gotta get my lefty buddie out to the range to see what the problem is. seems to me it would be easier for a lefty not reaching over the top of the rifle to get to the bolt handle.

LefthandShooter · 03-20-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

What if you put it in a copy machine backwards....Naw that wouldn't work.

Kind of like standing on the other end of the gun.
Or is it the other SIDE of the gun?

texnmidwest · 03-20-2008, 06:27 AM

Whew! For a minute there I was beginning to think this thread was getting way too serious.

I am pleasantly surprised at all the left handed shooters out there. At the range I see almost none! Makes this LHS feel much better!

jmp8927 · 03-20-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

You wont get enough leverage with the bolt that way....

Yeah that's the main issue with that design. lol

lowercase · 03-20-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Hasn't anyone one considered what this poor man has had happen to him ?
When that Mossin bit him he got a huge influx of Mossinitus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought that it meant that he will turn into a WWII Russian soldier at every full moon.

marion57 · 03-20-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Whew! For a minute there I was beginning to think this thread was getting way too serious.

I am pleasantly surprised at all the left handed shooters out there. At the range I see almost none! Makes this LHS feel much better!

Now Tex you just know it isnt going to get tooooo serious here LOL

just_a_car · 03-20-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

You wont get enough leverage with the bolt that way....

I agree with you, but I'm still willing and interested in trying to work something out... even though I'm a righty and like my bolt the way it is...

...okay, I take it back, I want a swept bent bolt from Boltman, but who doesn't, right?

03-19-2008, 09:02 PM	#23
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (0)	Pull to the left and down. Rotates the bolt counter clockwise and the piece going upwards from the original bolt allows enough clearance for the modded part to clear the left side of the rifle. It would look funky, but I believe it would work. May need to work on the general shape a little to allow the bolt to be turned easier. Also might be better to put a semicircular piece on the end rather than the nob because to rotate the bolt, it would require more of a pulling to the left as well as down. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

03-19-2008, 09:07 PM	#24
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	I think you are on to something there JMP! But maybe instead of the bolt handle you could install a servo motor. That way when you want to work the bolt you press a button in the side of the stock or receiver and the servo rotates the bolt counterclockwise and back. That started out as a tongue in cheek post designed to annoy you and as I wrote it I started thinking that would really be a cool thing! Kinda like an electric auto loader! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-19-2008, 09:27 PM	#25
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (0)	LOL ^ it's fine. It may or may not work the way I'm thinking about. I painted another pic from a different angle to give y'all a better idea of what I mean. Of course the shape could be changed to make it look better. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

03-19-2008, 10:50 PM	#27
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,337 Trader Rating: (0)	M-44 Now your blood brothers, That is a good idea, extending the bolt handle. It should be legal, huh?

03-19-2008, 11:01 PM	#29
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,414 Trader Rating: (0)	That's a neat idea jmp... I'm not a lefty, but I'd be willing to weld something like that together. I'm not a welder either, but my dad taught me some basic stuff with brazing, soldering, and oxy-acetylene welding (of an exhaust system). __________________

03-19-2008, 08:50 PM	#21
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,693 Trader Rating: (0)	picture you bolt with a handle welded on the other side, now picture opening the bolt. where is the handle going to go????

03-19-2008, 11:48 PM	#30
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,525 Trader Rating: (0)	Hasn't anyone one considered what this poor man has had happen to him ? When that Mossin bit him he got a huge influx of Mossinitus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Soon he will be searching the world over to buy all the Mossins he can find ! His family will go hungry and he'll loose his home, he'll quit his job and go to stealing to buy Mossin Nagant rifles. Can somebody Hep him ??? LOL !

03-19-2008, 11:48 PM	#31
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,272 Trader Rating: (0)	You wont get enough leverage with the bolt that way.... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-20-2008, 12:24 AM	#33
minkowski1552 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0)	I agree with Marion. Take off the bayonet and shoot it like the Barry Pepper, the sniper in Saving Private Ryan.

03-20-2008, 01:35 AM	#34
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 435 Trader Rating: (0)	i just don't see the problem being left handed and using the bolt with the right hand. now i really gotta get my lefty buddie out to the range to see what the problem is. seems to me it would be easier for a lefty not reaching over the top of the rifle to get to the bolt handle.

03-20-2008, 06:27 AM	#36
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	Whew! For a minute there I was beginning to think this thread was getting way too serious. I am pleasantly surprised at all the left handed shooters out there. At the range I see almost none! Makes this LHS feel much better! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)