M-17 bit needed

Farmer · 03-12-2008, 04:17 AM

Hi,
Hoping somone can help.

Im needing a set (or 2) of trigger guard screws for an M-17. These are the screws that mount the action but are apparently called trigger guard screws.

There are 2 sizes, one of each needed, 1/4" by 30 threads per inch.

Can anyone help? Or can you piont me in the right diection.

These were popular in Australia converted for big bore shooting, but all supplies dried up.

Marrjob · 03-12-2008, 05:50 AM

Might try Welcome to Numrich Gun Parts Corp. also known as Numrich Arms. They supply used part for just about anything made. I did a search under Enfield and SMLE for "M17" with no sucess. You might do better,

M1D-Garand · 03-12-2008, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrjob

I did a search under Enfield and SMLE for "M17" with no sucess. You might do better,

Should this not be P17??

Rob

Farmer · 03-13-2008, 06:04 PM

M1D,

The M17 or M1917 was a 30 cal made in the us. Many were shipped to england and aus via there but were re-barrelled into .303, these were then called P-14.

After ww1, the m17 was stored as the us went back to the sprinfield. During ww2, the stored arms were sent to england and issued as 30cal to home guards.

minkowski1552 · 03-20-2008, 01:16 AM

In fact, more Americans used the M17 during WWI than the M1903 due to a production problem. Since the P14 was already being made by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone in British 303 it was easier to convert those assembly lines to Sringfield 30-06 than to completely tool up the Springfield Amory to make 1903's. It was done but later in the war. I owned an M17 for many years, a Winchester. That was my favorite military rife.

M1D-Garand · 03-20-2008, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmer

M1D,

The M17 or M1917 was a 30 cal made in the us. Many were shipped to england and aus via there but were re-barrelled into .303, these were then called P-14.

After ww1, the m17 was stored as the us went back to the sprinfield. During ww2, the stored arms were sent to england and issued as 30cal to home guards.

As far as I know, the P14 was intensionally made in 303 brit for the British and the US "converted" this rifle to P17 (or M1917) to 30-06 for their own use in WW1.
Here in Europe they always talk about P14 and P17. Not m1917!

Rob

wunhunglo · 03-20-2008, 07:06 AM

Farmer,
Wrong way round, P14 was built in .303 and evolved from the .276 P13 and were later converted to .30 cal which became what most people know as the pattern 17 or model1917.

"United States Rifle, cal .30, Model of 1917" was an American modification and production of the British .303 caliber P14 rifle developed and manufactured during the period 1917-1918.

irish murphy · 03-20-2008, 07:20 AM

Give the boys at lawrance ordnance a hoy mate,

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/lawr...nu.html#rifles

Or these fellas,they are a bit pricey but probably have it or can get it.

JANSA ARMS

Yep its true,the m17 is the US version and it was chambered in 30/06,the pattern 14 or No3 was the british version and it was chambered in 303.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 03-22-2008, 09:48 PM

The US was manufacturing the P14 in .303 for the Canadians and British before the US entered WWII. After Pearl Harbor the US said "Hey WE need these". So since they were already in production the Govt changed them to 30-06 and called them P17's. They used them in WWII basicly until the Garand production caught up with demand. I shoot mine all the time. Its an Eddystone P17. A very heavy duty bolt action battle rifle that just feels good shooting.

jrh55 · 04-05-2008, 12:15 AM

got my last set from Boyds gun stocks , Forster brand if I remember right , I think a phone call to midway or Brownells will get a set good luck jrh55

03-12-2008, 04:17 AM	#1
Farmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Limbri NSW Au Posts: 296	M-17 bit needed Hi, Hoping somone can help. Im needing a set (or 2) of trigger guard screws for an M-17. These are the screws that mount the action but are apparently called trigger guard screws. There are 2 sizes, one of each needed, 1/4" by 30 threads per inch. Can anyone help? Or can you piont me in the right diection. These were popular in Australia converted for big bore shooting, but all supplies dried up. __________________ Cheers, Rob

03-12-2008, 05:50 AM	#2
Marrjob Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit, MI 48224 Posts: 23	M17 parts Might try Welcome to Numrich Gun Parts Corp. also known as Numrich Arms. They supply used part for just about anything made. I did a search under Enfield and SMLE for "M17" with no sucess. You might do better,

03-13-2008, 06:04 PM	#4
Farmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Limbri NSW Au Posts: 296	M1D, The M17 or M1917 was a 30 cal made in the us. Many were shipped to england and aus via there but were re-barrelled into .303, these were then called P-14. After ww1, the m17 was stored as the us went back to the sprinfield. During ww2, the stored arms were sent to england and issued as 30cal to home guards. __________________ Cheers, Rob

03-20-2008, 07:20 AM	#8
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Blog Entries: 5	Give the boys at lawrance ordnance a hoy mate, http://www.lawranceordnance.com/lawr...nu.html#rifles Or these fellas,they are a bit pricey but probably have it or can get it. JANSA ARMS Yep its true,the m17 is the US version and it was chambered in 30/06,the pattern 14 or No3 was the british version and it was chambered in 303. Last edited by irish murphy; 03-20-2008 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-22-2008, 09:48 PM	#9
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,293 Images: 12	The US was manufacturing the P14 in .303 for the Canadians and British before the US entered WWII. After Pearl Harbor the US said "Hey WE need these". So since they were already in production the Govt changed them to 30-06 and called them P17's. They used them in WWII basicly until the Garand production caught up with demand. I shoot mine all the time. Its an Eddystone P17. A very heavy duty bolt action battle rifle that just feels good shooting. Last edited by Capt'n Mil Coll; 03-22-2008 at 09:50 PM.

03-20-2008, 01:16 AM	#5
minkowski1552 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 41	In fact, more Americans used the M17 during WWI than the M1903 due to a production problem. Since the P14 was already being made by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone in British 303 it was easier to convert those assembly lines to Sringfield 30-06 than to completely tool up the Springfield Amory to make 1903's. It was done but later in the war. I owned an M17 for many years, a Winchester. That was my favorite military rife.

03-20-2008, 07:06 AM	#7
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,657	Farmer, Wrong way round, P14 was built in .303 and evolved from the .276 P13 and were later converted to .30 cal which became what most people know as the pattern 17 or model1917. "United States Rifle, cal .30, Model of 1917" was an American modification and production of the British .303 caliber P14 rifle developed and manufactured during the period 1917-1918.

04-05-2008, 12:15 AM	#10
jrh55 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 18	got my last set from Boyds gun stocks , Forster brand if I remember right , I think a phone call to midway or Brownells will get a set good luck jrh55