.270 WSM for Brown Bear

vikingpreacher · 03-20-2008, 12:33 PM

Not long ago some guys took a .270 WSM to Australia and killed Water Buffalo with 1 shot from the .270 WSM. I think thats crazy but, if Water Buffalo can possibly be taken why not Brown Bear? What do you guys think? And this was my friend's idea not mine.

rdale501 · 03-20-2008, 01:43 PM

It has been my experience that the gun doesn't kill, it is the bullet. There is a lot of information left out here. I wouldn't go buy a 270 wsm just on this one kill. The next buffalo hunt might just prove to be quite the opposite.

mtm1 · 03-20-2008, 02:00 PM

Ya, should be perfect. I'd stick with the 130s and look for a reduced velocity load though.

Midas · 03-20-2008, 02:32 PM

There are no cartridges under 30 cal that would be preferable for brown bear hunting. In the right conditions a .22 LR could certainly kill a brown or polar bear, but that doesn't make it a reasonable choice.

vikingpreacher · 03-20-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Midas

There are no cartridges under 30 cal that would be preferable for brown bear hunting. In the right conditions a .22 LR could certainly kill a brown or polar bear, but that doesn't make it a reasonable choice.

I agree but my friend thought it would be suitable so I was asking.

lefty o · 03-20-2008, 04:50 PM

i love my 270WSM's, but i wouldnt take one a a brown bear hunt. can it kill a brownie, yes- best choice, no.

mtm1 · 03-20-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Midas

There are no cartridges under 30 cal that would be preferable for brown bear hunting. In the right conditions a .22 LR could certainly kill a brown or polar bear, but that doesn't make it a reasonable choice.

Thank you. Well put.

7mmremmag1995 · 03-20-2008, 06:27 PM

not unlessed you want one really paranoid bear licking his chops

Brother Bob · 03-20-2008, 07:04 PM

Is attempted suicide legal in Alaska? Just wondering......

Rattle'em up · 03-20-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingpreacher

Not long ago some guys took a .270 WSM to Australia and killed Water Buffalo with 1 shot from the .270 WSM. I think thats crazy but, if Water Buffalo can possibly be taken why not Brown Bear? What do you guys think?

Absolutely, why not? Elphants have been killed with a .22LR. What you should do is pass up the brown bear hunt and hunt African lion with it and I will buy you the 270 of your choice. But in return I want the whole thing on video so when the Lion eats you for lunch I can sit ,watch and enjoy while I drink my beer and eat my pretzels.

vikingpreacher · 03-20-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattle'em up

Absolutely, why not? Elphants have been killed with a .22LR. What you should do is pass up the brown bear hunt and hunt African lion with it and I will buy you the 270 of your choice. But in return I want the whole thing on video so when the Lion eats you for lunch I can sit ,watch and enjoy while I drink my beer and eat my pretzels.

Good, I'll give you my address.

And also as I mentioned this was not my idea but my friend's.

FISHPOND · 03-20-2008, 11:15 PM

Food For thought. 270 wsm 130 grain bullet produces 3114 Ft/Lbs at 100 yards and 2573 at 200 yards. 300 Win. Mag 180 grain bullet produces 3501 Ft/Lbs at a 100 yards and 2945 at 200 yards. Just a comparision. Also here is the site I got this info from... Remington.com - Products - Ammunition - Ballistics

Midas · 03-20-2008, 11:25 PM

I guess I'll add to my earlier post by saying this, YES you could kill a brown bear with a .270 WSM, but common sense, and rational thinking tells me to not attempt it without having the proper funeral arrangements in place.

vikingpreacher · 03-21-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Midas

I guess I'll add to my earlier post by saying this, YES you could kill a brown bear with a .270 WSM, but common sense, and rational thinking tells me to not attempt it without having the proper funeral arrangements in place.

Its ok man, I'm insured.

And as I said earlier this was my friend's idea not mine.

If I were to go Brown Bear hunting I would want a 7mm Rem Mag minimum.

AKHunter · 03-21-2008, 12:24 PM

It'll work if everything goes right. I would'nt opt for a .270wsm for that task though. .30-06 or bigger for me !

CroMagnum · 03-21-2008, 01:07 PM

There's no way I'd go on a guided brown bear hunt with a 270wsm, it might do the trick, it might not. If your friend is going to spend all that money on a guided hunt, he'd be better served shooting something a little more potent, otherwise the guide might have to finish it off for him. I'm not saying it won't do the job because proper bullet placement is the key, I just think he's better off using something with a little more oomph to it.

SwedeSteve · 03-21-2008, 01:45 PM

No AK Guide would take you out for Brownies sporting a 270 ANYTHING! Tell your friend to take the front sight off of his rifle, so it won't hurt as much when the Brownie stuffs it up his.......LOL

Rattle'em up · 03-21-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

No AK Guide would take you out for Brownies sporting a 270 ANYTHING! Tell your friend to take the front sight off of his rifle, so it won't hurt as much when the Brownie stuffs it up his.......LOL

Oh man, that is to funny.

turner · 03-21-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattle'em up

Absolutely, why not? Elphants have been killed with a .22LR. What you should do is pass up the brown bear hunt and hunt African lion with it and I will buy you the 270 of your choice. But in return I want the whole thing on video so when the Lion eats you for lunch I can sit ,watch and enjoy while I drink my beer and eat my pretzels.

Don't forget...the........... And when he's done....do i get the varmint rifle?????

vikingpreacher · 03-22-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rattle'em up

Absolutely, why not? Elphants have been killed with a .22LR. What you should do is pass up the brown bear hunt and hunt African lion with it and I will buy you the 270 of your choice. But in return I want the whole thing on video so when the Lion eats you for lunch I can sit ,watch and enjoy while I drink my beer and eat my pretzels.

That is actually funny because back in the 50s a guy named Bob Lee killed Lions with a .270.

03-20-2008, 12:33 PM	#1
vikingpreacher Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (0)	.270 WSM for Brown Bear Not long ago some guys took a .270 WSM to Australia and killed Water Buffalo with 1 shot from the .270 WSM. I think thats crazy but, if Water Buffalo can possibly be taken why not Brown Bear? What do you guys think? And this was my friend's idea not mine. __________________ Join the cartridge comparisons group! http://gunandgame.com/forums/group.php?groupid=3 Last edited by vikingpreacher; 03-21-2008 at 08:28 AM.

03-20-2008, 02:00 PM	#3
mtm1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0)	270 WSM and Brown Bears Ya, should be perfect. I'd stick with the 130s and look for a reduced velocity load though.

03-20-2008, 02:32 PM	#4
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,704 Trader Rating: (0)	There are no cartridges under 30 cal that would be preferable for brown bear hunting. In the right conditions a .22 LR could certainly kill a brown or polar bear, but that doesn't make it a reasonable choice. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

03-20-2008, 06:27 PM	#8
7mmremmag1995 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,275 Trader Rating: (0)	not unlessed you want one really paranoid bear licking his chops __________________ Just LeDoux it

03-20-2008, 11:25 PM	#13
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,704 Trader Rating: (0)	I guess I'll add to my earlier post by saying this, YES you could kill a brown bear with a .270 WSM, but common sense, and rational thinking tells me to not attempt it without having the proper funeral arrangements in place. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

03-20-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
rdale501 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 395 Trader Rating: (0)	It has been my experience that the gun doesn't kill, it is the bullet. There is a lot of information left out here. I wouldn't go buy a 270 wsm just on this one kill. The next buffalo hunt might just prove to be quite the opposite.

03-20-2008, 04:50 PM	#6
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,693 Trader Rating: (0)	i love my 270WSM's, but i wouldnt take one a a brown bear hunt. can it kill a brownie, yes- best choice, no.

03-20-2008, 07:04 PM	#9
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,576 Trader Rating: (0)	Is attempted suicide legal in Alaska? Just wondering......

03-20-2008, 11:15 PM	#12
FISHPOND Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0)	Food For thought. 270 wsm 130 grain bullet produces 3114 Ft/Lbs at 100 yards and 2573 at 200 yards. 300 Win. Mag 180 grain bullet produces 3501 Ft/Lbs at a 100 yards and 2945 at 200 yards. Just a comparision. Also here is the site I got this info from... Remington.com - Products - Ammunition - Ballistics

03-21-2008, 12:24 PM	#15
AKHunter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 904 Trader Rating: (0)	It'll work if everything goes right. I would'nt opt for a .270wsm for that task though. .30-06 or bigger for me !

03-21-2008, 01:07 PM	#16
CroMagnum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0)	There's no way I'd go on a guided brown bear hunt with a 270wsm, it might do the trick, it might not. If your friend is going to spend all that money on a guided hunt, he'd be better served shooting something a little more potent, otherwise the guide might have to finish it off for him. I'm not saying it won't do the job because proper bullet placement is the key, I just think he's better off using something with a little more oomph to it.

03-21-2008, 01:45 PM	#17
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,136 Trader Rating: (0)	No AK Guide would take you out for Brownies sporting a 270 ANYTHING! Tell your friend to take the front sight off of his rifle, so it won't hurt as much when the Brownie stuffs it up his.......LOL __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers