NEED SOME ADVICE AND HELP

L.A SOLDIER · 03-20-2008, 11:56 PM

ok i recently posted a thread up earlier about me buying an ar15 for 1800.00. si i talked to my sell er and he told me he would refund me 491.75 if he took all the accessories away and left it like this in this picture.what this money in hand what can i do to make it better? any suggestions.thanks

ArkansasHunter · 03-21-2008, 12:03 AM

You can buy a Bushmaster AR-15 M4 version for less than $ 900.00 if you shop around.
I paid $ 875.00 for a new one...A.H

LarryO1970 · 03-21-2008, 12:03 AM

You are still paying too much... by about 300.00 or so, depending on the make. I'd demand a complete refund and buy one after speaking to the rest of us first... so you do not get hosed.

IF you are committed and he will not refund more money, I'd decidedly not buy anything from him again, friend, acquaintance or whatever...

As far as accessories go... that is all in personal taste. I have something similar with an ACOG... so you will need to save a little more to afford it, but they are worth it.

Sadly brother... you got duped.

JOEGUN94 · 03-21-2008, 12:05 AM

way too much money, you can buy that same weapon for less, shop around, compare,
16'' barrel, hell, build it you self, otr at least the lower,
just bought a lower 129.00 part 59.00 depends on where you buy, complete lower, buy upper, still sabe moneynext time, know your product before you buy, noy trying to be a pain in the a** but, buyer beware,

ArkansasHunter · 03-21-2008, 12:06 AM

I missed read your post, you paid to much, but all of us have one time or another.
Please give us the Brand and model and we can tell you how bad you got ripped off ?

Mooseman684 · 03-21-2008, 12:08 AM

He is in Kalifornia so it has to be compliant with the Laws....
Rich

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 12:09 AM

yea you guys are right i did get ripped off.the maker is double star and has a UTG upper i didnt do my homework before buying it.the way he convinced me was he said that in kali all magz are either welded or cant be removed to prevent it from being removed.

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 12:14 AM

How long you had it?

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 12:15 AM

maybe about a week. or less

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 12:24 AM

So basically you're stuck with it? He won't take it back at all now? If not, chalk it up to a lesson learned and you'll know the next time.

As far as what you can do to it with that $491 and change, you need to find out what California will let you do, then go from there. No matter what, you're stuck with 10rd mags. No matter what, no laser sights. Kind of limited living in California.

One thing that $491.75 will get you is a drop in trigger. Say a Timney or Chip McCormick trigger maybe? Not even sure if that is California legal though. Check your local laws first, then worry about what you can add or do.

ArkansasHunter · 03-21-2008, 12:26 AM

How do you load it with the magazine welded to the gun ? LOL

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 12:32 AM

well its not welded or anything the only thing is the button to release the maghas a small L wrench size to release the mag by pushing the release button.but normaly if i had to reload i would have to take off a screw on the lower part and flip it open to reload

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 12:33 AM

THAT BLOWS BIG TIME! LOL

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 12:36 AM

yea our laws suck.thanks to the north hollywood shoot out.they ruined it for al of us.so thats my story im gonna try and talk him to giving me back my money casue so should let him take all the parts back and have him return my money or should i hjust keep it the way it is?

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 12:45 AM

Well if you keep it how it is, without the other stuff, what will that have cost you?

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 01:02 AM

well the original price is 1789.77 he said he will refund me 491 75
so its 1298.02 thats still too much

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 01:11 AM

Yep, still too much, buy about 300 bucks if not more I'd say. The Stag Arms I'm looking at lists for $989.00 I believe. So I figure a little below that is what I'll be paying by the time taxes and shipping and or transfer fees and back ground check fees and all that crap are added together.

L.A SOLDIER · 03-21-2008, 01:14 AM

damn ik new i should of done research before i bought the damn thing.so would do u suggest i do should i get back those 400 and have it the way it is in the pic? or should i just deal with it?

Despoiler · 03-21-2008, 01:23 AM

Hey L.A Soldier,

Check out this site calguns.net, lots of good info on OLL's there.

Despoiler

GlockMeister · 03-21-2008, 01:28 AM

What were the extras you got that cost $491.75 that if you return you'll get back?

03-21-2008, 12:03 AM	#3
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,772	You are still paying too much... by about 300.00 or so, depending on the make. I'd demand a complete refund and buy one after speaking to the rest of us first... so you do not get hosed. IF you are committed and he will not refund more money, I'd decidedly not buy anything from him again, friend, acquaintance or whatever... As far as accessories go... that is all in personal taste. I have something similar with an ACOG... so you will need to save a little more to afford it, but they are worth it. Sadly brother... you got duped. __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!"

03-21-2008, 12:08 AM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,632 Images: 2	He is in Kalifornia so it has to be compliant with the Laws.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-21-2008, 12:14 AM	#8
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	How long you had it? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-21-2008, 12:24 AM	#10
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	So basically you're stuck with it? He won't take it back at all now? If not, chalk it up to a lesson learned and you'll know the next time. As far as what you can do to it with that $491 and change, you need to find out what California will let you do, then go from there. No matter what, you're stuck with 10rd mags. No matter what, no laser sights. Kind of limited living in California. One thing that $491.75 will get you is a drop in trigger. Say a Timney or Chip McCormick trigger maybe? Not even sure if that is California legal though. Check your local laws first, then worry about what you can add or do. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-21-2008, 12:33 AM	#13
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	THAT BLOWS BIG TIME! LOL __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-21-2008, 12:03 AM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,675	You can buy a Bushmaster AR-15 M4 version for less than $ 900.00 if you shop around. I paid $ 875.00 for a new one...A.H

03-21-2008, 12:05 AM	#4
JOEGUN94 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: MARSHALL Posts: 159	way too much money, you can buy that same weapon for less, shop around, compare, 16'' barrel, hell, build it you self, otr at least the lower, just bought a lower 129.00 part 59.00 depends on where you buy, complete lower, buy upper, still sabe moneynext time, know your product before you buy, noy trying to be a pain in the a** but, buyer beware,

03-21-2008, 12:06 AM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,675	I missed read your post, you paid to much, but all of us have one time or another. Please give us the Brand and model and we can tell you how bad you got ripped off ?

03-21-2008, 12:09 AM	#7
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	yea you guys are right i did get ripped off.the maker is double star and has a UTG upper i didnt do my homework before buying it.the way he convinced me was he said that in kali all magz are either welded or cant be removed to prevent it from being removed.

03-21-2008, 12:15 AM	#9
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	maybe about a week. or less

03-21-2008, 12:26 AM	#11
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,675	How do you load it with the magazine welded to the gun ? LOL

03-21-2008, 12:32 AM	#12
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	well its not welded or anything the only thing is the button to release the maghas a small L wrench size to release the mag by pushing the release button.but normaly if i had to reload i would have to take off a screw on the lower part and flip it open to reload

03-21-2008, 12:36 AM	#14
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	yea our laws suck.thanks to the north hollywood shoot out.they ruined it for al of us.so thats my story im gonna try and talk him to giving me back my money casue so should let him take all the parts back and have him return my money or should i hjust keep it the way it is?

03-21-2008, 12:45 AM	#15
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	Well if you keep it how it is, without the other stuff, what will that have cost you? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-21-2008, 01:02 AM	#16
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	well the original price is 1789.77 he said he will refund me 491 75 so its 1298.02 thats still too much

03-21-2008, 01:11 AM	#17
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	Yep, still too much, buy about 300 bucks if not more I'd say. The Stag Arms I'm looking at lists for $989.00 I believe. So I figure a little below that is what I'll be paying by the time taxes and shipping and or transfer fees and back ground check fees and all that crap are added together. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 03-21-2008 at 01:14 AM.

03-21-2008, 01:14 AM	#18
L.A SOLDIER Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 40	damn ik new i should of done research before i bought the damn thing.so would do u suggest i do should i get back those 400 and have it the way it is in the pic? or should i just deal with it?

03-21-2008, 01:23 AM	#19
Despoiler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Occupied Territory of California Posts: 2,232	Hey L.A Soldier, Check out this site calguns.net, lots of good info on OLL's there. Despoiler

03-21-2008, 01:28 AM	#20
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,360	What were the extras you got that cost $491.75 that if you return you'll get back? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!