.308 resizing

jaeger · 03-21-2008, 12:35 PM

Stupid question but I have been experimenting with handloads using a lee classic hand load kit. (you know the $15 kit) The kit states that it only "neck-sizes" the brass. I have noticed my brass getting harder to chamber after about 2 reloads. Could this be from only neck sizing, and not full case resizing?. Any help would be appreciated.

wunhunglo · 03-21-2008, 01:34 PM

Sounds like it. You firing it in a standard bolt action or in an auto?

SwedeSteve · 03-21-2008, 01:48 PM

Wun is spot on with what type rifle?

Ron AKA · 03-21-2008, 01:56 PM

It could also be a sign of too much pressure. What is your load data?

Ron

phoenix79 · 03-21-2008, 03:13 PM

It could be that you may need to trim the brass as well

wunhunglo · 03-21-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix79

It could be that you may need to trim the brass as well

So obvious, forgot to mention it, part of my normal reloading sequence to mic the cases; thought everybody does it.

jaeger · 03-21-2008, 04:17 PM

I usually use 47gr win748 with hornady 165gr spbt.

Oh and is a mauser type bolt action.

mitch_mckee · 03-21-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeger

Stupid question but I have been experimenting with handloads using a lee classic hand load kit. (you know the $15 kit) The kit states that it only "neck-sizes" the brass. I have noticed my brass getting harder to chamber after about 2 reloads. Could this be from only neck sizing, and not full case resizing?. Any help would be appreciated.

I neck resize for my .308 Savage Tactical with out problems. It seems that my Remington 700 in .308 has a tighter chamber and won't let me do that.

My assumption has been that the brass expands too large for the Rem but OK for the Savage though I rally don't know why. I just merrily full length for one and neck size for the other.

You may need to get a full length resizer.

samuel · 03-21-2008, 05:47 PM

Those $15.00 kits you are talking about arent much.They only neck resize and if it takes any force at all you bump the shoulder out making them hard,or usually impossible to chamber.You have to full length resize to get them to chamber again,and then they do it again you are back to the same thing.You would have to have access to a press and flr die.They came out with those kit things years ago and I thought they didnt make them any more.I guess they do.The only way I would know to get by with one is to buy either new brass or find brass that will chamber before loading and use slow burning powder like IMR4350 or slower and keep the CUP pressure below 45,000lbs.Lee might make a low priced press and full length die that would fix you up.Be sure and lubricate the neck good and if flr,ing,the whole case.Use the minimum in powder charges. sam.

Ron AKA · 03-21-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeger

I usually use 47gr win748 with hornady 165gr spbt.
Oh and is a mauser type bolt action.

Others with more experience hopefully will comment. I have not reloaded the 308 for over 40 years. On a quick look I cannot find a load for Win 748 and the 165 grain at the Hodgdon site.

Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com

Extrapolating from the 150 grain (which is not always a good thing to do) would suggest a maximum of 48.5 minus about 2 grains or 46.5. So you may be up there in pressure, and I wonder why Hodgdon does not list a load for that powder in the 165 grain -- perhaps to fast burning for that weight of bullet? As I said, hopefully others with more experience will comment.

On the press, for just ease of use if nothing else, I would suggest going to a bench mounted press. I think the Lee Classic Cast is a great press for well under $100, and their Challenger is good too for much less.

Ron

jaeger · 03-21-2008, 08:05 PM

I will definately be going to a bench mounted press. Basically picked up the hand reload kit to learn the essentials.

Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com

billy · 03-31-2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeger

I will definately be going to a bench mounted press. Basically picked up the hand reload kit to learn the essentials.

Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com

thats what i did but with an anniversary kit.
i wanted to see if i even liked it .
i did.
now i have a turret press and all kinds of other crap

ArkansasHunter · 03-31-2008, 10:49 AM

I've got a Lee hand reloaded in 375 win. Big Bore and it didn't do a good job overall.
Is it worth anything being an odd ball caliber that's no longer available ?
Do people collect reloading stuff ?
Thanks A.H

rdale501 · 03-31-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

I've got a Lee hand reloaded in 375 win. Big Bore and it didn't do a good job overall.
Is it worth anything being an odd ball caliber that's no longer available ?
Do people collect reloading stuff ?
Thanks A.H

Yea they do but,,,, I think they want to be able to use it. Iv'e never heard of anyone collecting it just for a collection.

03-21-2008, 12:35 PM	#1
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0)	.308 resizing Stupid question but I have been experimenting with handloads using a lee classic hand load kit. (you know the $15 kit) The kit states that it only "neck-sizes" the brass. I have noticed my brass getting harder to chamber after about 2 reloads. Could this be from only neck sizing, and not full case resizing?. Any help would be appreciated.

03-21-2008, 01:48 PM	#3
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,504 Trader Rating: (0)	Wun is spot on with what type rifle? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-21-2008, 04:17 PM	#7
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0)	I usually use 47gr win748 with hornady 165gr spbt. Oh and is a mauser type bolt action. Last edited by jaeger; 03-21-2008 at 04:20 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (0)	I will definately be going to a bench mounted press. Basically picked up the hand reload kit to learn the essentials. Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com Last edited by jaeger; 03-21-2008 at 08:10 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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03-21-2008, 01:34 PM	#2
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,305 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds like it. You firing it in a standard bolt action or in an auto?

03-21-2008, 01:56 PM	#4
Ron AKA Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (0)	It could also be a sign of too much pressure. What is your load data? Ron

03-21-2008, 03:13 PM	#5
phoenix79 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0)	It could be that you may need to trim the brass as well

03-21-2008, 05:47 PM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,038 Trader Rating: (0)	Those $15.00 kits you are talking about arent much.They only neck resize and if it takes any force at all you bump the shoulder out making them hard,or usually impossible to chamber.You have to full length resize to get them to chamber again,and then they do it again you are back to the same thing.You would have to have access to a press and flr die.They came out with those kit things years ago and I thought they didnt make them any more.I guess they do.The only way I would know to get by with one is to buy either new brass or find brass that will chamber before loading and use slow burning powder like IMR4350 or slower and keep the CUP pressure below 45,000lbs.Lee might make a low priced press and full length die that would fix you up.Be sure and lubricate the neck good and if flr,ing,the whole case.Use the minimum in powder charges. sam.

03-31-2008, 10:49 AM	#13
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,408 Trader Rating: (0)	I've got a Lee hand reloaded in 375 win. Big Bore and it didn't do a good job overall. Is it worth anything being an odd ball caliber that's no longer available ? Do people collect reloading stuff ? Thanks A.H