Identifiying a lower reciever

HarleyRenegade · 03-22-2008, 06:53 PM

I recently found some componets to a assault weapon and am trying to identify what weapon they came from... the nightvision scope is identical to the one pictured when you look up the m-16 there was also a drum type magazine, some bannana clips marked for military use only and a lower reciever..its the lower reciever I am most intrested in identifying..It has the numbers 489 stamped on the side and has 3 positions on the selector switch S E and F I dont think it is the entire reciever but rather the trigger mechanism portion...how do I figure out what it will fit?

LarryO1970 · 03-22-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HarleyRenegade

I recently found some componets to a assault weapon and am trying to identify what weapon they came from... the nightvision scope is identical to the one pictured when you look up the m-16 there was also a drum type magazine, some bannana clips marked for military use only and a lower reciever..its the lower reciever I am most intrested in identifying..It has the numbers 489 stamped on the side and has 3 positions on the selector switch S E and F I dont think it is the entire reciever but rather the trigger mechanism portion...how do I figure out what it will fit?

Pictures would help...

HarleyRenegade · 03-22-2008, 07:30 PM

I took pics apearantly the file size is too large to upload more than one so I uploaded the close up of the reciever I will post the link once the file is reviewed and posted or you can check the gallery.

madcratebuilder · 03-23-2008, 09:21 AM

You need to host your images.

HarleyRenegade · 03-23-2008, 12:33 PM

see if this link to the pics works......

HarleyRenegade · 03-23-2008, 12:36 PM

Anyone know what this might fit and is this from a semi auto or full auto???

ok I had images up now they have disapeared W.T.F.? how about if I post a link to the images???.... http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/b/2051266250115677075

so far the link works just click on the thumbnails to get them full size

LarryO1970 · 03-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Okay... looks like a 50 round drum for a Thompson, a starlight scope and a trigger group for maybe a H & K...

HarleyRenegade · 03-23-2008, 01:26 PM

ar-15 model maybe??

LarryO1970 · 03-23-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HarleyRenegade

ar-15 model maybe??

The only thing you have there that would fit in or on an AR-15 is the starlight scope.

That trigger group... not sure if it is legal for you to have it... looks to be a select fire trigger group. I am not sure about that so someone else more familiar will need to assist.

The drum... I'm about 99% sure is for a Thompson.

HarleyRenegade · 03-23-2008, 01:40 PM

I kind of suspected that the drum was a thompson..the rounds in it are marked 321 98 they seem to match up to a 7.62x39

LarryO1970 · 03-23-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HarleyRenegade

I kind of suspected that the drum was a thompson..the rounds in it are marked 321 98 they seem to match up to a 7.62x39

no ... a Thompson .45 caliber like this: www.1927a1.com ... but I could be wrong. Are the rounds in the drum 7.62 x 39 (AK rounds?)

The starlight scope could be worth some good money...

That trigger group is what truly is the wild card ...

Mooseman684 · 03-23-2008, 01:51 PM

The Starlight is CORRECT !

THe Drum is not a Thompson drum...It appears to be an AK 47 Drum...

The SEF Lower is an H&K or CETME Lower....

Rich

LarryO1970 · 03-23-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

The Starlight is CORRECT !

THe Drum is not a Thompson drum...It appears to be an AK 47 Drum...

The SEF Lower is an H&K or CETME Lower....

Rich

Is that a select fire lower? I am not all that familiar with that animal...?

The AK-47 50 round drum and the starlight scope could command a pretty penny. Are you willing to sell the starlight?

Mooseman684 · 03-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Yes it is a select fire...
S = Safe
E = Einschutz (1 round per trigger squeeze)
F = Full auto

LarryO1970 · 03-23-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Yes it is a select fire...
S = Safe
E = Einschutz (1 round per trigger squeeze)
F = Full auto

Then that is not legal to own the way he has it, correct?

HarleyRenegade · 03-23-2008, 02:07 PM

It takes more than just that trigger cluster to turn it into a full auto doesn't it?

Mooseman684 · 03-23-2008, 02:27 PM

You can Own the Lower, But you had better Not have the gun with the receiver drilled for the push pins to attach it , and you also need the full auto bolt carrier and bolt for proper functioning...
Rich

knightRider · 03-23-2008, 03:06 PM

i would be interested in hearing the story of how you came to have these things . If you would like Pm me.

Silent Shooter · 03-24-2008, 09:35 AM

The trigger group is from a German G-3 by H&K. I have ZERO doubt about it. The drum is a (what appears to be) a chinese manufactured AK drum. The Scope is a first gen. Starlight scope.

LarryO1970 · 03-24-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Shooter

The trigger group is from a German G-3 by H&K. I have ZERO doubt about it. The drum is a (what appears to be) a chinese manufactured AK drum. The Scope is a first gen. Starlight scope.

Agreed on the Starlight scope... I used them back in 1994 while in Europe.

03-22-2008, 06:53 PM	#1
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	Identifiying a lower reciever I recently found some componets to a assault weapon and am trying to identify what weapon they came from... the nightvision scope is identical to the one pictured when you look up the m-16 there was also a drum type magazine, some bannana clips marked for military use only and a lower reciever..its the lower reciever I am most intrested in identifying..It has the numbers 489 stamped on the side and has 3 positions on the selector switch S E and F I dont think it is the entire reciever but rather the trigger mechanism portion...how do I figure out what it will fit?

03-23-2008, 09:21 AM	#4
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03-23-2008, 12:36 PM	#6
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	Anyone know what this might fit and is this from a semi auto or full auto??? ok I had images up now they have disapeared W.T.F.? how about if I post a link to the images???.... http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/b/2051266250115677075 so far the link works just click on the thumbnails to get them full size Last edited by HarleyRenegade; 03-23-2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-23-2008, 01:03 PM	#7
LarryO1970 Give the GOV a Harumph ! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 4,368	Okay... looks like a 50 round drum for a Thompson, a starlight scope and a trigger group for maybe a H & K... __________________ If anybody asks, it must have been the "trigger actuator nut".....

03-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,015 Images: 2	The Starlight is CORRECT ! THe Drum is not a Thompson drum...It appears to be an AK 47 Drum... The SEF Lower is an H&K or CETME Lower.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-22-2008, 07:30 PM	#3
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	I took pics apearantly the file size is too large to upload more than one so I uploaded the close up of the reciever I will post the link once the file is reviewed and posted or you can check the gallery.

03-23-2008, 12:33 PM	#5
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	see if this link to the pics works......

03-23-2008, 01:26 PM	#8
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	ar-15 model maybe??

03-23-2008, 01:40 PM	#10
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	I kind of suspected that the drum was a thompson..the rounds in it are marked 321 98 they seem to match up to a 7.62x39

03-23-2008, 02:03 PM	#14
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,015 Images: 2	Yes it is a select fire... S = Safe E = Einschutz (1 round per trigger squeeze) F = Full auto __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-23-2008, 02:07 PM	#16
HarleyRenegade Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Images: 6	It takes more than just that trigger cluster to turn it into a full auto doesn't it?

03-23-2008, 02:27 PM	#17
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,015 Images: 2	You can Own the Lower, But you had better Not have the gun with the receiver drilled for the push pins to attach it , and you also need the full auto bolt carrier and bolt for proper functioning... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-23-2008, 03:06 PM	#18
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,882 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	i would be interested in hearing the story of how you came to have these things . If you would like Pm me. __________________ God doesn't give rights. Men have to fight for them.

03-24-2008, 09:35 AM	#19
Silent Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 292	The trigger group is from a German G-3 by H&K. I have ZERO doubt about it. The drum is a (what appears to be) a chinese manufactured AK drum. The Scope is a first gen. Starlight scope.