.44 or .22

TXplt · 02-07-2008, 08:58 AM

If you had to make a choice between a .44 Charter Bulldog with stock sights and 40 rounds of ammo or a 3" S&W kit gun with hi-viz sights and 100 or so rounds of ammo, which would you choose and why ?

Father Time · 02-07-2008, 07:30 PM

22 Kit Gun!

two-70 · 02-07-2008, 10:39 PM

yep 22 kit gun lots cheaper to shoot

nathangdad · 02-07-2008, 10:39 PM

Personally, I would choose the .22 and get in a great deal of practice. The .44 you mention definitely has a place in self defense but does not have much flexibility beyond that role. It will cost a great deal more to shoot and, due to its design, you will most likely never develop any real expertise with it.

Note: I expect some posts to follow with stories of expertise with the .44 and I do not doubt their stories but still maintain the vast majority of shooters will never develop much proficiency with this gun other than extremely close range self-defense shooting.

TXplt · 02-08-2008, 07:19 AM

Thanks !

Dan22 · 02-08-2008, 08:40 AM

The .22 for me too.

Windwalker · 02-08-2008, 10:28 AM

I like the .22 but I would prefer a longer bbl.,5 or 6 in., for better accuracy. Depending on the situation the .44 could be used to acquire a .22 and ammo.

ezearln · 02-08-2008, 10:44 AM

I got plenty of .22's so I'd take the .44 Bulldog basically because it would fill a niche currently empty in the Armory LOL.

Big Dog · 02-08-2008, 12:58 PM

In a hunkered-down 'Bug-in' situation, or if traveling by vehcle, I'd take both! Each has it's uses.

If on foot, I'd take a longer-barreled .22 handgun - my S&W Model 17 with six inch barrel is perfect. Very good shooter, capable of bagging bunnies and squirrels.
It would supplement the long gun I'd be carrying for hunting/defense.

TXplt · 02-08-2008, 02:23 PM

Thanks all--have both but was putting together a small survival/camping/disaster prep kit. Under ideal conditions like to take other firearms I can but was wondering some opinions if limited to one or the other. Shot the 317 kit gun yesterday -- even with 3" bbl with the hi viz sight it's so accurate for me to shoot and think it would serve camping/food in the pan purpose well. 100 rds of .22 is light, and I think it could be used for small game, etc. if necessary.

Thanks again for the advice !

Father Time · 02-08-2008, 08:39 PM

When I first replied, I thought that you were talking about shtf survival, but even so, I wouldn't hesitate to carry a 22 CCW on the street. IMHO the .22 LR is a badly underrated round for self defense. How often does someone need to shoot through an engine block or three houses to protect their life?

Apparently the government services agree. There are a lot of those Hi-Standards out there going on dangerous missions.

TXplt · 02-08-2008, 08:50 PM

I was (shtf, etc.), and a basic quick kit that I could take camping or if needing to relocate due to natural disaster (weather, etc....). Looking like the .22 is the best bet. Thanks again for all the inputs. The little kit revolver continues to surprise me with its accuracy and versatility. Really light too.

22-rimfire · 02-09-2008, 10:33 PM

I'd also choose the 22. I would prefer a longer barrel though. Maybe a Smith Model 18 or a Colt Diamondback. If your survival plans include a vehicle, take both.

Cyrille · 02-09-2008, 11:18 PM

All that's needed in my "neck of the woods"---swamp. is a .22 rimfire rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun anything else is gravy!

Clem321 · 02-22-2008, 10:04 AM

A good .22 is a wonderful thing. I personally wouldn’t have one of the aluminum .22 just because I am not getting any more aluminum guns and I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with the v sights on it. I have a new 5” Model 63 that weighs 30 oz. that is very accurate and adequately light. I also have several candidate .22 rifles: 10/22 auto, Marlin 39M lever gun, CZ 452 bolt gun, any of which would be suitable.

In lieu of a .22 rifle and handgun, one possibility is a scoped handgun. I have a Ruger MK II678GC with an Ultradot LT red dot sight on it. It is accurate enough, and the red dot extends the range enough to do much of what a rifle can do.

Beans · 02-23-2008, 09:13 PM

T/C with two barrels. 1 .22 and the other what ever you wanted, or a .223 with a .22 insert

perdidochas · 03-26-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXplt

If you had to make a choice between a .44 Charter Bulldog with stock sights and 40 rounds of ammo or a 3" S&W kit gun with hi-viz sights and 100 or so rounds of ammo, which would you choose and why ?

Depends on what I'm most worried about.

If I'm worried about food, the .22. If I'm worried about self-defense, the .44

02-07-2008, 08:58 AM	#1
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,167 Trader Rating: (0)	.44 or .22 If you had to make a choice between a .44 Charter Bulldog with stock sights and 40 rounds of ammo or a 3" S&W kit gun with hi-viz sights and 100 or so rounds of ammo, which would you choose and why ? __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-07-2008, 07:30 PM	#2
Father Time Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (0)	22 Kit Gun! __________________ You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

02-07-2008, 10:39 PM	#3
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,755 Trader Rating: (0)	yep 22 kit gun lots cheaper to shoot __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

02-07-2008, 10:39 PM	#4
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,103 Trader Rating: (0)	.22 Personally, I would choose the .22 and get in a great deal of practice. The .44 you mention definitely has a place in self defense but does not have much flexibility beyond that role. It will cost a great deal more to shoot and, due to its design, you will most likely never develop any real expertise with it. Note: I expect some posts to follow with stories of expertise with the .44 and I do not doubt their stories but still maintain the vast majority of shooters will never develop much proficiency with this gun other than extremely close range self-defense shooting.

02-08-2008, 07:19 AM	#5
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,167 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks ! __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-08-2008, 08:40 AM	#6
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 292 Trader Rating: (0)	The .22 for me too.

02-08-2008, 10:28 AM	#7
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,145 Trader Rating: (0)	I like the .22 but I would prefer a longer bbl.,5 or 6 in., for better accuracy. Depending on the situation the .44 could be used to acquire a .22 and ammo. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

02-08-2008, 10:44 AM	#8
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,179 Trader Rating: (0)	I got plenty of .22's so I'd take the .44 Bulldog basically because it would fill a niche currently empty in the Armory LOL. __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

02-08-2008, 12:58 PM	#9
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,979 Trader Rating: (0)	In a hunkered-down 'Bug-in' situation, or if traveling by vehcle, I'd take both! Each has it's uses. If on foot, I'd take a longer-barreled .22 handgun - my S&W Model 17 with six inch barrel is perfect. Very good shooter, capable of bagging bunnies and squirrels. It would supplement the long gun I'd be carrying for hunting/defense. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-08-2008, 02:23 PM	#10
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,167 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks all--have both but was putting together a small survival/camping/disaster prep kit. Under ideal conditions like to take other firearms I can but was wondering some opinions if limited to one or the other. Shot the 317 kit gun yesterday -- even with 3" bbl with the hi viz sight it's so accurate for me to shoot and think it would serve camping/food in the pan purpose well. 100 rds of .22 is light, and I think it could be used for small game, etc. if necessary. Thanks again for the advice ! __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-08-2008, 08:39 PM	#11
Father Time Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (0)	When I first replied, I thought that you were talking about shtf survival, but even so, I wouldn't hesitate to carry a 22 CCW on the street. IMHO the .22 LR is a badly underrated round for self defense. How often does someone need to shoot through an engine block or three houses to protect their life? Apparently the government services agree. There are a lot of those Hi-Standards out there going on dangerous missions. __________________ You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

02-08-2008, 08:50 PM	#12
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,167 Trader Rating: (0)	I was (shtf, etc.), and a basic quick kit that I could take camping or if needing to relocate due to natural disaster (weather, etc....). Looking like the .22 is the best bet. Thanks again for all the inputs. The little kit revolver continues to surprise me with its accuracy and versatility. Really light too. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

02-09-2008, 10:33 PM	#13
22-rimfire Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0)	I'd also choose the 22. I would prefer a longer barrel though. Maybe a Smith Model 18 or a Colt Diamondback. If your survival plans include a vehicle, take both.

02-09-2008, 11:18 PM	#14
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,693 Trader Rating: (0)	All that's needed in my "neck of the woods"---swamp. is a .22 rimfire rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun anything else is gravy!

02-22-2008, 10:04 AM	#15
Clem321 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0)	A good .22 is a wonderful thing. I personally wouldn’t have one of the aluminum .22 just because I am not getting any more aluminum guns and I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with the v sights on it. I have a new 5” Model 63 that weighs 30 oz. that is very accurate and adequately light. I also have several candidate .22 rifles: 10/22 auto, Marlin 39M lever gun, CZ 452 bolt gun, any of which would be suitable. In lieu of a .22 rifle and handgun, one possibility is a scoped handgun. I have a Ruger MK II678GC with an Ultradot LT red dot sight on it. It is accurate enough, and the red dot extends the range enough to do much of what a rifle can do.

02-23-2008, 09:13 PM	#16
Beans Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0)	T/C with two barrels. 1 .22 and the other what ever you wanted, or a .223 with a .22 insert

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