SLUG & BuckSHOTGUN

lionxheartxsd · 03-26-2008, 04:29 PM

now i got another question...whats the difference between a slug and buckshot...i need an explanation. thanks..

i got the NEF Pardner 12 gauge 18 1/2" 3"

GlockMeister · 03-26-2008, 04:37 PM

Slug is one projectile where buckshot is many depending on size of the shot. The smaller the projectile, the more the shell can hold, the bigger then obviously the less the shell can hold.

If you're talking about a slug gun and a buck shotgun. The main difference there is the barrel. Slug guns generally have rifled barrels with rifle sights. Shotguns for buckshot generally are smooth bore barrels with bead front sights.

Also, shot shells are usually in 2 3/4" and 3" sizes for 12ga. shotguns.

Wasn't sure which you wanted. Your title says slug and buck shotguns. Your post just says slug and buckshot?

lionxheartxsd · 03-26-2008, 04:43 PM

i still dont get it..im new to the industry...what do u mean by projectile?

Bravo · 03-26-2008, 04:43 PM

Like GM said, The size and number of projectiles is the difference.

Since your shotgun fires 3" shells, we'll use that for data:

A Slug shoots 1 projectile that is roughly the size of the bore in diameter.

000 Buckshot is the biggest buckshot. They shoot .36" balls, and each shell contains about 10 balls.

00 Buckshot is the 2nd biggest. They shoot .33" balls, and each shell contains about 15 balls.

#1 Buckshot is next. They shoot .32" balls, and each shell contains about 24 balls.

You get the picture.

lionxheartxsd · 03-26-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

Like GM said, The size and number of projectiles is the difference.

Since your shotgun fires 3" shells, we'll use that for data:

A Slug shoots 1 projectile that is roughly the size of the bore in diameter.

000 Buckshot is the biggest buckshot. They shoot .36" balls, and each shell contains about 10 balls.

00 Buckshot is the 2nd biggest. They shoot .33" balls, and each shell contains about 15 balls.

#1 Buckshot is next. They shoot .32" balls, and each shell contains about 24 balls.

You get the picture.

so basically buckshots got balls in it, and slugs is just one piece of crap? right? or am i getting there?

GlockMeister · 03-26-2008, 04:48 PM

Yes, not an actual piece of crap mind you but yes. A slug is one piece of lead where buckshot is many pieces or balls. Crap just kind of splats. Not very useful in self defense other than to gross the offender out. lmao

lionxheartxsd · 03-26-2008, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Yes, not an actual piece of crap mind you but yes. A slug is one piece of lead where buckshot is many pieces or balls. Crap just kind of splats. Not very useful in self defense other than to gross the offender out. lmao

haha...thanks

do you guys buys ammos at the store or does some of you order online? does ordering online a safe place? and whats a good brand?

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Taurus Fan · 03-26-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionxheartxsd

haha...thanks

do you guys buys ammos at the store or does some of you order online? does ordering online a safe place? and whats a good brand?

Ammunition To Go : Your one stop for all of your ammunition needs!

I find my ammo in a hollow tree trunk, left by elves after a full moon. Wal-mart is good too.

nathangdad · 03-26-2008, 05:39 PM

A slug is a solid projectile (one per round of ammo) while buckshot
is a number of round projectiles loaded into a round of ammo and available in several different sizes.

If you are discussing self defense buckshot has the advantage of
spreading with distance to provide a larger hit pattern. However,
a slug delivers massive force to one point of impact. So, you can
take either side of the debate - is it better to spread the force
over a larger area some of which might miss the target or is it better
to concentrate force on one point probably capable of disabling an attacker wearing body armor although you run the risk of a complete miss.

I doubt there will ever be a conclusive answer to the debate. Some
people load their pumps or semi-autos with a mix of buckshot and slug. It is up to you to make you own decision.

Whatever you decide I always advise PRACTICE to reach a point of
confidence with your gun. In the end capability with your gun
will overshadow the buckshot versus slug debate.

lionxheartxsd · 03-26-2008, 05:54 PM

so basically, buckshots is good for self-defense and slugs are good at gun range...this is jus my opinion...for self-defense, buckshot, balls can spread and have a higher possibily of hitting a target and slugs is just one hit to a target which is also possible that the target will not be hit.
make sense?

but which one has a stronger recoil? buckshot or slugs?

Bravo · 03-26-2008, 06:22 PM

You will probably feel similar recoil with both. Recoil is related to the velocity of the projectile, the weight of the projectile, and the weight of the firearm.

Slugs are almost specifically used for hunting. Buckshot is great for self defense. The most common self defense load is 00-Buckshot.

With Buckshot, you're not trying to hit multiple targets (although it's possible), you're just trying to make sure that you hit 1 target. With 10-15 balls going down range, the odds of one of these .33-.36cal pellets hitting a kill zone is pretty high, and there is a really good chance that you will land 5+ in the kill zone.

But yeah, you got it right

Also, a good slug can be used out to 100+ yards, where as buckshot is really only effective out to ~50 yards.

samuel · 03-27-2008, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionxheartxsd

haha...thanks

do you guys buys ammos at the store or does some of you order online? does ordering online a safe place? and whats a good brand?

Ammunition To Go : Your one stop for all of your ammunition needs!

You can raise your own by planting the seed at the stroke of 1:00am on a dark rainy night.You get the seed from your local PETA chapter. sam.

lionxheartxsd · 03-27-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel

You can raise your own by planting the seed at the stroke of 1:00am on a dark rainy night.You get the seed from your local PETA chapter. sam.

i dont get it...

samuel · 03-27-2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionxheartxsd

i dont get it...

I thought that might be confusing to you. Put wikipedia on your search bar.Find wikipedia website and roll it up until their search bar comes up on the left hand side.Put shotgun on their search and poke go.When the shotgun page comes up,start reading.There are articles on buckshot and slugs.Read them carefully.If you dont get them the first time read them over.Keep reading until you understand.By this time tomorrow you should be ready to post a thank you for the advice you have been given. sam.

GlockMeister · 03-27-2008, 02:48 PM

Yes, you can buy it at a store or online. Wherever you find the best deal. Remember though, if you buy online, whomever you buy from has to have, usually a requirement, a copy of your drivers license and FOID card or whatever your state issues for gun ownership and drivers license, to buy online from them. Also add in shipping and if from the same state as you add shipping and tax.

You just have to shop around for whatever ammo you are in need of and price it. If it's cheaper to buy online, after shipping fees, then that's where you get it. If it's cheaper to buy it from a local gun store or retailer like Walmart or similar, then that's where you buy it.

Oxford · 03-27-2008, 02:52 PM

My SG has a Poly Choke attached with a "slug" setting. When I patterned it the buckshot were in a very tight pattern as compared to any of the other settings.

OldTimer · 03-27-2008, 09:04 PM

lionxheartxsd,

Perhaps these images will clarify exactly what the differences are between buckshot and slugs:

Buckshot: http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/284793_d.jpg

Shotgun slugs: http://www.nrapublications.org/tah/images/slugs8.jpg
Top: rifled slug, aka: Foster-style slug; bottom: sabot slug (pronounced: say'-boh)
Foster-style slugs are designed for smooth-bored tubes (barrels), and sabot slugs are designed for rifled tubes; for further research (or "ha-ha's"), Google: "brenneke slugs". :-D

03-26-2008, 04:37 PM	#2
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,478	Slug is one projectile where buckshot is many depending on size of the shot. The smaller the projectile, the more the shell can hold, the bigger then obviously the less the shell can hold. If you're talking about a slug gun and a buck shotgun. The main difference there is the barrel. Slug guns generally have rifled barrels with rifle sights. Shotguns for buckshot generally are smooth bore barrels with bead front sights. Also, shot shells are usually in 2 3/4" and 3" sizes for 12ga. shotguns. Wasn't sure which you wanted. Your title says slug and buck shotguns. Your post just says slug and buckshot? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 03-26-2008 at 04:44 PM.

03-26-2008, 04:48 PM	#6
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,478	Yes, not an actual piece of crap mind you but yes. A slug is one piece of lead where buckshot is many pieces or balls. Crap just kind of splats. Not very useful in self defense other than to gross the offender out. lmao __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#9
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,469	Posters are correct A slug is a solid projectile (one per round of ammo) while buckshot is a number of round projectiles loaded into a round of ammo and available in several different sizes. If you are discussing self defense buckshot has the advantage of spreading with distance to provide a larger hit pattern. However, a slug delivers massive force to one point of impact. So, you can take either side of the debate - is it better to spread the force over a larger area some of which might miss the target or is it better to concentrate force on one point probably capable of disabling an attacker wearing body armor although you run the risk of a complete miss. I doubt there will ever be a conclusive answer to the debate. Some people load their pumps or semi-autos with a mix of buckshot and slug. It is up to you to make you own decision. Whatever you decide I always advise PRACTICE to reach a point of confidence with your gun. In the end capability with your gun will overshadow the buckshot versus slug debate. Last edited by nathangdad; 03-26-2008 at 08:34 PM. Reason: spelling

03-27-2008, 02:48 PM	#15
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,478	Yes, you can buy it at a store or online. Wherever you find the best deal. Remember though, if you buy online, whomever you buy from has to have, usually a requirement, a copy of your drivers license and FOID card or whatever your state issues for gun ownership and drivers license, to buy online from them. Also add in shipping and if from the same state as you add shipping and tax. You just have to shop around for whatever ammo you are in need of and price it. If it's cheaper to buy online, after shipping fees, then that's where you get it. If it's cheaper to buy it from a local gun store or retailer like Walmart or similar, then that's where you buy it. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-27-2008, 02:52 PM	#16
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	My SG has a Poly Choke attached with a "slug" setting. When I patterned it the buckshot were in a very tight pattern as compared to any of the other settings. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

03-26-2008, 04:29 PM	#1
lionxheartxsd Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 35	SLUG & BuckSHOTGUN now i got another question...whats the difference between a slug and buckshot...i need an explanation. thanks.. i got the NEF Pardner 12 gauge 18 1/2" 3"

03-26-2008, 04:43 PM	#3
lionxheartxsd Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 35	i still dont get it..im new to the industry...what do u mean by projectile?

03-26-2008, 04:43 PM	#4
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	Like GM said, The size and number of projectiles is the difference. Since your shotgun fires 3" shells, we'll use that for data: A Slug shoots 1 projectile that is roughly the size of the bore in diameter. 000 Buckshot is the biggest buckshot. They shoot .36" balls, and each shell contains about 10 balls. 00 Buckshot is the 2nd biggest. They shoot .33" balls, and each shell contains about 15 balls. #1 Buckshot is next. They shoot .32" balls, and each shell contains about 24 balls. You get the picture.

03-26-2008, 05:54 PM	#10
lionxheartxsd Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 35	so basically, buckshots is good for self-defense and slugs are good at gun range...this is jus my opinion...for self-defense, buckshot, balls can spread and have a higher possibily of hitting a target and slugs is just one hit to a target which is also possible that the target will not be hit. make sense? but which one has a stronger recoil? buckshot or slugs?

03-26-2008, 06:22 PM	#11
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	You will probably feel similar recoil with both. Recoil is related to the velocity of the projectile, the weight of the projectile, and the weight of the firearm. Slugs are almost specifically used for hunting. Buckshot is great for self defense. The most common self defense load is 00-Buckshot. With Buckshot, you're not trying to hit multiple targets (although it's possible), you're just trying to make sure that you hit 1 target. With 10-15 balls going down range, the odds of one of these .33-.36cal pellets hitting a kill zone is pretty high, and there is a really good chance that you will land 5+ in the kill zone. But yeah, you got it right Also, a good slug can be used out to 100+ yards, where as buckshot is really only effective out to ~50 yards.

03-27-2008, 09:04 PM	#17
OldTimer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 135	lionxheartxsd, Perhaps these images will clarify exactly what the differences are between buckshot and slugs: Buckshot: http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/284793_d.jpg Shotgun slugs: http://www.nrapublications.org/tah/images/slugs8.jpg Top: rifled slug, aka: Foster-style slug; bottom: sabot slug (pronounced: say'-boh) Foster-style slugs are designed for smooth-bored tubes (barrels), and sabot slugs are designed for rifled tubes; for further research (or "ha-ha's"), Google: "brenneke slugs". :-D __________________ I support PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals George... Last edited by OldTimer; 03-27-2008 at 09:08 PM. Reason: Clarification