Mosin Nagant information !

marion57 · 03-26-2008, 02:21 PM

For all newbies that are interested in knowing more I would sugest these sites
First I recommend anyone interested in collecting these fine old guns to get a FFL 03
A good source of info on this can be found here.
http://www.cruffler.com/becomingcruffler.html

A site with a little back ground into Mosin Nagants can be found at this web site
Collecting and Shooting the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 - HISTORY

For more detailed information as to types , and discriptions, and how to break a rifle down , markings, and a whole lot more check this web site.
7.62x54r.net
These are just 3 of many sites with info on there fine rifles.
there are also forums on this rifle and others like my favorite G&G
Forums are to numerous to list so I wont list them here
enjoy there fine rifles they have a lot of history behind them!!
Marion

SwedeSteve · 03-26-2008, 05:04 PM

Amen, Brother! Amen.

GlockMeister · 03-26-2008, 05:15 PM

Thanks Marion. Very informative and most helpful...

racdrof · 04-12-2008, 11:29 AM

Went to a local gun shop this morning, looking for a Russian SKS, which they didn't have. Seen

a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54. I know nothing about these rifles just the name. Swapped a pistol scope, rings and mount (had no use for them anymore). From the markings on the rifle it's a Izhevsk (Soviet Union), behind the rear sights it's stamped 1937. Stocks a little rough, no major dents or scratches, finish is off in a few places, 48 1/2" long. Like I said I know nothing about them, like where is the safety. I gave $20.00 difference for it. Did I do OK or did I get took?

texnmidwest · 04-12-2008, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racdrof

Went to a local gun shop this morning, looking for a Russian SKS, which they didn't have. Seen

a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54. I know nothing about these rifles just the name. Swapped a pistol scope, rings and mount (had no use for them anymore). From the markings on the rifle it's a Izhevsk (Soviet Union), behind the rear sights it's stamped 1937. Stocks a little rough, no major dents or scratches, finish is off in a few places, 48 1/2" long. Like I said I know nothing about them, like where is the safety. I gave $20.00 difference for it. Did I do OK or did I get took?

Depends on the brand of pistol scope.

What you describe sounds like a 91/30. Great rifles. Of the Russian rifles (not finns) I like them the best. These rifles sell in the range of 60 to 100 bucks from distributors and a little higher in gun shops.

The safety is engaged by pulling back on the cocking piece and rotating counterclockwise 1/4 of a turn.

Be very careful with that thing. The cosmolene is addictive and Mosins tend to reproduce in your gun safe quickly.

Welcome to the Mosinitis club!!!

sh4d0ww4rri0r · 04-12-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racdrof

Went to a local gun shop this morning, looking for a Russian SKS, which they didn't have. Seen a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54. I know nothing about these rifles just the name. Swapped a pistol scope, rings and mount (had no use for them anymore). From the markings on the rifle it's a Izhevsk (Soviet Union), behind the rear sights it's stamped 1937. Stocks a little rough, no major dents or scratches, finish is off in a few places, 48 1/2" long. Like I said I know nothing about them, like where is the safety. I gave $20.00 difference for it. Did I do OK or did I get took?

How ironic.... you probably could have used that pistol scope on the mosin. hehe

papou paul · 04-13-2008, 06:43 PM

Just a question - just bought a 91/30 myself - with bayonet darn near as tall as I am. How does one cycle the bolt without having to fire it? Needless to say, haven't put any rounds in it yet because I don't want to shoot something - the wife would not be amused. Don't want to go to the rifle club I JUST joined and not know how to de-cock this beast.
Can't wait to play with my commie rifle

texnmidwest · 04-13-2008, 06:51 PM

How can you shoot something if you have not put rounds in it?

To decock, lift the bolt handle to verticle. Pull the trigger and keep it depressed. Lower the bolt handle. It is now decocked.

Also, if you have rounds in it and want to unload. Simply release the floor plate and drop the magazine follower out. The rounds will drop out as well.

Oh, BTW, pull back on the cocking piece rotate it counterclockwise 1/4 of a turn. It is now on safe.

papou paul · 04-13-2008, 08:30 PM

Thanks - I wanted to actually put rounds in it (and get them out) without accidentally killing the clock radio. Can't wait to get out and play. The last I shot was a mini-14, which weapon being what the Illinois DOC has in the prison towers. It should be fun. Thanks again - I'll have more questions I am sure, and a report from the rifle club.

Always fear a woman with an agenda and a coward with a mean streak.

marion57 · 04-14-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papou paul

Thanks - I wanted to actually put rounds in it (and get them out) without accidentally killing the clock radio. Can't wait to get out and play. The last I shot was a mini-14, which weapon being what the Illinois DOC has in the prison towers. It should be fun. Thanks again - I'll have more questions I am sure, and a report from the rifle club.

Always fear a woman with an agenda and a coward with a mean streak.

welcome and just want to tell you I am probably the only other guy here that ever even heard of Galva,

LOL I use to live in quad cities

marcusdunn8192 · 04-14-2008, 09:04 PM

I shot my wifes washing machine with a CETME one night , she took the keys to the gun cabinet for two weeks!!!!

marion57 · 04-15-2008, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcusdunn8192

I shot my wifes washing machine with a CETME one night , she took the keys to the gun cabinet for two weeks!!!!

that is a no no!! but funny LOL
did it kill it?

marion57 · 04-18-2008, 08:53 AM

An addition to the above sticky in a varient of the m44 mosin
The Chinese Type 53 Carbine

shojinn · 04-19-2008, 07:33 PM

I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles.
My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?

marion57 · 04-19-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shojinn

I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles.
My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?

I have never seen a mosin with bad head space!! the only thing you can change as far as I know is the bolt >> I suggest you post this in the forum and get some answers. I will post it for you then you can check it yourself

Mooseman684 · 04-19-2008, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shojinn

I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles.
My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?

It is pretty easy job for a KNowledgable gunsmith...One that knows Mosins...
I charge 20 Bucks , But I work cheaper than Most Gunsmiths , because I am No Longer doing it for a living...You will have to get a quote from Your local gunsmith...It takes me 15 to 30 minutes tops to do the fitting...
Rich

tonystewartfan · 05-26-2008, 07:22 AM

K.H. · 05-27-2008, 06:47 PM

The only thing that I dont like so much about my mosin is after I fire it it is hard to pull the bolt up again, and before I fire it the bolt moves around way too easily.

Laufer · 08-10-2008, 12:37 AM

Visiting my brother now in another state, he tried to get the Gander Mountain Manager to come down on their MN 44 prices. Just days ago they raised them from an 'intro price' of $99 to $150.
The Manager only came down to $130 and after he disappeared I then told my brother "Nope".

I guess big store are boneheaded, and feel that keeping only 4 out of 7 rifles of a given type on display will make customers conclude that they could sell out soon, assuming that local guys don't research prices on the Internet?

There are some here and there, listing in smaller stores for $99 up to $135 or so. To avoid the FFL charge of another $35 (to ship a faraway gun to a somewhat local shop) is my goal on this trip. Will see two more tomorrow.
What kind of MN wood looks naturally yellow? Have just seen my third or fourth.
Happy "hunting" (searching), guys/gals.

ravenblood · 08-10-2008, 07:24 PM

i have just bought mosin nagant and i fired 15 times and now the bolt is stuck shut. and it will knoe open. can anyone help me.

03-26-2008, 02:21 PM	#1
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,693 Trader Rating: (0)	Mosin Nagant information ! For all newbies that are interested in knowing more I would sugest these sites First I recommend anyone interested in collecting these fine old guns to get a FFL 03 A good source of info on this can be found here. http://www.cruffler.com/becomingcruffler.html A site with a little back ground into Mosin Nagants can be found at this web site Collecting and Shooting the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 - HISTORY For more detailed information as to types , and discriptions, and how to break a rifle down , markings, and a whole lot more check this web site. 7.62x54r.net These are just 3 of many sites with info on there fine rifles. there are also forums on this rifle and others like my favorite G&G Forums are to numerous to list so I wont list them here enjoy there fine rifles they have a lot of history behind them!! Marion __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

03-26-2008, 05:04 PM	#2
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,170 Trader Rating: (0)	Amen, Brother! Amen. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-26-2008, 05:15 PM	#3
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,952 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks Marion. Very informative and most helpful... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-12-2008, 11:29 AM	#4
racdrof Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 185 Trader Rating: (0)	First Mosin Nagant Went to a local gun shop this morning, looking for a Russian SKS, which they didn't have. Seen a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54. I know nothing about these rifles just the name. Swapped a pistol scope, rings and mount (had no use for them anymore). From the markings on the rifle it's a Izhevsk (Soviet Union), behind the rear sights it's stamped 1937. Stocks a little rough, no major dents or scratches, finish is off in a few places, 48 1/2" long. Like I said I know nothing about them, like where is the safety. I gave $20.00 difference for it. Did I do OK or did I get took?

04-13-2008, 06:51 PM	#8
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,035 Trader Rating: (0)	How can you shoot something if you have not put rounds in it? To decock, lift the bolt handle to verticle. Pull the trigger and keep it depressed. Lower the bolt handle. It is now decocked. Also, if you have rounds in it and want to unload. Simply release the floor plate and drop the magazine follower out. The rounds will drop out as well. Oh, BTW, pull back on the cocking piece rotate it counterclockwise 1/4 of a turn. It is now on safe. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

04-13-2008, 06:43 PM	#7
papou paul Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Galva, IL Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	Just a question - just bought a 91/30 myself - with bayonet darn near as tall as I am. How does one cycle the bolt without having to fire it? Needless to say, haven't put any rounds in it yet because I don't want to shoot something - the wife would not be amused. Don't want to go to the rifle club I JUST joined and not know how to de-cock this beast. Can't wait to play with my commie rifle

04-13-2008, 08:30 PM	#9
papou paul Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Galva, IL Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks - I wanted to actually put rounds in it (and get them out) without accidentally killing the clock radio. Can't wait to get out and play. The last I shot was a mini-14, which weapon being what the Illinois DOC has in the prison towers. It should be fun. Thanks again - I'll have more questions I am sure, and a report from the rifle club. Always fear a woman with an agenda and a coward with a mean streak.

04-14-2008, 09:04 PM	#11
marcusdunn8192 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	I shot my wifes washing machine with a CETME one night , she took the keys to the gun cabinet for two weeks!!!!

04-18-2008, 08:53 AM	#13
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,693 Trader Rating: (0)	An addition to the above sticky in a varient of the m44 mosin The Chinese Type 53 Carbine __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

04-19-2008, 07:33 PM	#14
shojinn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: twin falls ID Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	mossin head spacing I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles. My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?

05-26-2008, 07:22 AM	#17
tonystewartfan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0)	__________________ "if guns kill people, then I can blame misspelled words on my pencil.- Larry "The Cable Guy" Last edited by tonystewartfan; 05-26-2008 at 09:27 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-27-2008, 06:47 PM	#18
K.H. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0)	The only thing that I dont like so much about my mosin is after I fire it it is hard to pull the bolt up again, and before I fire it the bolt moves around way too easily.

08-10-2008, 12:37 AM	#19
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (0)	Visiting my brother now in another state, he tried to get the Gander Mountain Manager to come down on their MN 44 prices. Just days ago they raised them from an 'intro price' of $99 to $150. The Manager only came down to $130 and after he disappeared I then told my brother "Nope". I guess big store are boneheaded, and feel that keeping only 4 out of 7 rifles of a given type on display will make customers conclude that they could sell out soon, assuming that local guys don't research prices on the Internet? There are some here and there, listing in smaller stores for $99 up to $135 or so. To avoid the FFL charge of another $35 (to ship a faraway gun to a somewhat local shop) is my goal on this trip. Will see two more tomorrow. What kind of MN wood looks naturally yellow? Have just seen my third or fourth. Happy "hunting" (searching), guys/gals.

08-10-2008, 07:24 PM	#20
ravenblood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	stuck bolt i have just bought mosin nagant and i fired 15 times and now the bolt is stuck shut. and it will knoe open. can anyone help me.