Single shot, break open shotgun?

jeffsenpai · 03-31-2008, 11:24 PM

I am interested in picking up a single shot, break open shotgun. This would be my first shotgun, and I would be using it primarily for target shooting and plinking w/ family. I also think it would be a great way to introduce me to shotguns, and a great ammo saver.

Any popular models out there? A quick google search turned up a H&R model, any others?

toolman · 03-31-2008, 11:33 PM

The H&R\NEF's are great guns for the $$$. Remington is importing a line known as "Spartan" that is made in Turkey. These are good guns as well, but cost more. You may want to look into the Rossi's as they offer several switch-barrell shotgun\rifle models, ie: you can have a .22lr\20 ga., .243\20 ga., etc. If you have an academy sporting goods near you, they will prob. have them. Here's a link:
Academy Sports + Outdoors - Sporting Goods Store

lefty o · 03-31-2008, 11:34 PM

if you think you might want to eventually hunt with it, i would gravitate towards a pump gun.

rondog · 04-01-2008, 12:32 AM

I can guarantee that in a very short time, you'll be wanting to upgrade, so consider a pump. And the ammo thing is a myth, you can burn LOTS of ammo through a single shot, just takes longer. I'd recommend visiting a trap/skeet range, where there's lots of shotgunners, and asking for some advice. Also consider that while the plastic stocks are lighter and look "tacticool", wood absorbs more recoil.

Avoid pistol grip "combat shotguns" with no buttstock. Those aren't even fun to shoot, and forget about hitting anything.

But toolman has a very good point about the interchangeable barrel thing.

.22hustler · 04-01-2008, 07:41 AM

Single shot shotguns also have a tendency to kick like a mule, especially a 12 guage.Start with a decent pump, you'll probaly keep it. If you start with a single shot, you'll probaly get rid of it.

nathangdad · 04-01-2008, 07:46 AM

Rossi has a great line of shotguns in the style you want. I think it is a very good idea to start simple the see if you want to move forward rather than put out a lot of money up front for something you might not enjoy.

I really do like my Rossi 20 gauge slug gun.

GlockMeister · 04-01-2008, 08:03 AM

Just out of mere curiosity, why are you looking at single shots shotguns? Is there a specific reason or something or just because you like them? For what it's worth, I agree with LeftyO and .22guy and what they've expressed.

wunhunglo · 04-01-2008, 08:59 AM

I would suggest you try and find a clay shooting club/or group who will be only too glad to introduce you proper & safe shotgun shooting and will probably let you try various guns, so you can make an informed decision.

andrew cochran · 04-01-2008, 09:06 AM

Get an H an R pardner in 20 guage. Pump or single shot break open.

Bravo · 04-01-2008, 09:32 AM

I have a single-shot break action 20ga and .410ga, and love them. The .410 was actually my first firearm.

I would recommend:

H & R Firearms: Firearms: Shotguns (I have the Junior Classic in .410. I still use it today because of its ease to carry through the woods. It weighs pretty much nothing, especially compared to my pump action shotguns)

or

Remington SPR100™ Single Shot Specifications
(I own an SPR310 (over-under), and it's probably my favorite shotgun. These are Baikal Firearms, which means their made in the Russia's historic Izhevsky Manufacturing Plant. During World War II it produced countless Tokarev 1933 pistols, Nagant 1895 revolvers, Degtyaryov and Simonov anti-tank rifles and other military armament, including rocket launchers.) Baikal Firearms

Anyway, either of these would be great choices. For your first shotgun, I would probably stick to a 20ga. There is little that you can't do with a 20ga that you would be able to do with a 12ga.

turner · 04-01-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

if you think you might want to eventually hunt with it, i would gravitate towards a pump gun.

+ 1

ArkansasHunter · 04-01-2008, 10:08 AM

I agree with Andrew for only a few dollars more you can buy one of these ! Instead of a single shot.
Pardner® Pump Walnut

ModelPardner® Pump WalnutAmmo12 Gauge (NP1-228)Order Online

20 Gauge (NP1-206)StockAmerican Walnut with grooved fore-end and ventilated recoil pad.Barrel28" (12 Ga); 26" (20 Ga)ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength48-1/8" (12 Ga.) 46-1/8" (20 Ga.)Length of Pull14-1/4"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/2"Weight7-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual
(Specifications subject to change without notice)

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Pardner® Pump-Synthetic

ModelPardner® Pump-SyntheticAmmo12 Gauge (NP1-2S8)
20 Gauge (NP1-2S6)StockBlack synthetic with grooved fore-end and ventilated recoil pad.Barrel28" (12 Ga); 26" (20 Ga)ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength48-1/8" (12 Ga.) 46-1/8" (20 Ga.)Length of Pull14-1/4"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/2"Weight7-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual
(Specifications subject to change without notice)

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Pardner® Pump Compact

ModelPardner Pump CompactAmmo20 GaugeStockAmerican walnut (Shown, NP1-201)
Black Synthetic (NP1-2S1)
Full Dip Camo (NP1-2C1)Barrel21"ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength40"Length of Pull13"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/4"Weight6-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual

I paid I think a grand total of $ 180.00 for the wood 20ga. and I give you my word it is well made and NICE !!!...A.H

Bravo · 04-01-2008, 12:30 PM

Ohhhh...I like that compact shotgun.

It makes me want to get one of these so badly for home defense: Remington Model 870™ Marine Magnum™ Specifications

That's off topic though, since the price range is a bit more than our original poster wants to spend.

But fun to look at nonetheless

ezearln · 04-01-2008, 02:40 PM

First shotgun I ever had was an Ithaca 66 single shot in 20 ga, bought with my own money I went out and earned myself cutting lawns and washing cars. Not that brought back a few happy memories!

jeffsenpai · 04-01-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

if you think you might want to eventually hunt with it, i would gravitate towards a pump gun.

I would never hunt with it, not one of my interests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Just out of mere curiosity, why are you looking at single shots shotguns? Is there a specific reason or something or just because you like them? For what it's worth, I agree with LeftyO and .22guy and what they've expressed.

Why? The price (less than $150) of a single shot is lower than a similar quality pump it seems. Also, I suppose, I DO just like the look of them, the simplicity. I don't need much more than one shot for shooting watermelons and targets out with friends and family.

I'll take a look around at some of the pump-actions people have posted. I am favoring an H&R model so far.

Bravo · 04-01-2008, 02:58 PM

Your reasons for wanting a single shot are very valid. Cheap pump actions will more than likely be of much poorer quality than a single shot for just a bit less. H&R makes very good quality Single-Shot Shotguns.

big boomer · 04-01-2008, 03:08 PM

Nothing wrong with the singles, they have few parts to break and are simple to check for loaded or not. I started my boys with singles in the 70's and the guns are still in ex. shape. I suggest you start with a 20ga as it kicks less than the 12 but patterns better than the 4.10 and is easy to find shells for, unlike the 28 or 16.

.22hustler · 04-01-2008, 05:42 PM

All good advice.My only experience with a single shot was many years ago. I took a buddies young son, about 15, out duck hunting and he had a single shot 12 guage. He couldn't hit a tree with this gun. I let him use my 1200, and within several shots he had his first duck. I tried his single and with shooting 2 3/4" #4 magnums, this gun was a HANDFUL! The poor kid was scared of the recoil it delivered, and with good reason. He wasn't a big kid, and this gun his dad bought for his son's first gun was a doozy!

Bravo · 04-01-2008, 06:06 PM

I probably wouldn't get a 12ga in single-shot because of recoil issues, but once you add a bit of weight, like with an over/under or pump action even, the recoil is very manageable.

ArkansasHunter · 04-01-2008, 06:16 PM

Hey Bravo the H&R-NEF Pardner Pump is a very nice shotgun, fit and finish is excellent.
As dumb as this may sound I bought mine out of curiosity after looking it over and what not it is a nice shotgun.
Andrew Cockran another member here bought one and he says the same about his.
I wanted the compact but due to barrel leght I ordered the adult size.
And where you'll know the 20ga's are scaled down to what 20ga. size should be.
These shotguns are Remington 870 clones with all parts interchangeable except on the 20ga maybe.
Andrew bought his for $120.00 I think he said...A.H

03-31-2008, 11:24 PM	#1
jeffsenpai Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central California Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0)	Single shot, break open shotgun? I am interested in picking up a single shot, break open shotgun. This would be my first shotgun, and I would be using it primarily for target shooting and plinking w/ family. I also think it would be a great way to introduce me to shotguns, and a great ammo saver. Any popular models out there? A quick google search turned up a H&R model, any others?

03-31-2008, 11:33 PM	#2
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,354 Trader Rating: (0)	The H&R\NEF's are great guns for the $$$. Remington is importing a line known as "Spartan" that is made in Turkey. These are good guns as well, but cost more. You may want to look into the Rossi's as they offer several switch-barrell shotgun\rifle models, ie: you can have a .22lr\20 ga., .243\20 ga., etc. If you have an academy sporting goods near you, they will prob. have them. Here's a link: Academy Sports + Outdoors - Sporting Goods Store __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

04-01-2008, 07:46 AM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,253 Trader Rating: (0)	Rossi Rossi has a great line of shotguns in the style you want. I think it is a very good idea to start simple the see if you want to move forward rather than put out a lot of money up front for something you might not enjoy. I really do like my Rossi 20 gauge slug gun.

04-01-2008, 08:03 AM	#7
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,934 Trader Rating: (0)	Just out of mere curiosity, why are you looking at single shots shotguns? Is there a specific reason or something or just because you like them? For what it's worth, I agree with LeftyO and .22guy and what they've expressed. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-01-2008, 09:06 AM	#9
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	Get an H an R pardner in 20 guage. Pump or single shot break open. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

03-31-2008, 11:34 PM	#3
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,691 Trader Rating: (0)	if you think you might want to eventually hunt with it, i would gravitate towards a pump gun.

04-01-2008, 12:32 AM	#4
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,234 Trader Rating: (0)	I can guarantee that in a very short time, you'll be wanting to upgrade, so consider a pump. And the ammo thing is a myth, you can burn LOTS of ammo through a single shot, just takes longer. I'd recommend visiting a trap/skeet range, where there's lots of shotgunners, and asking for some advice. Also consider that while the plastic stocks are lighter and look "tacticool", wood absorbs more recoil. Avoid pistol grip "combat shotguns" with no buttstock. Those aren't even fun to shoot, and forget about hitting anything. But toolman has a very good point about the interchangeable barrel thing.

04-01-2008, 07:41 AM	#5
.22hustler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (0)	Single shot shotguns also have a tendency to kick like a mule, especially a 12 guage.Start with a decent pump, you'll probaly keep it. If you start with a single shot, you'll probaly get rid of it.

04-01-2008, 08:59 AM	#8
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,347 Trader Rating: (0)	I would suggest you try and find a clay shooting club/or group who will be only too glad to introduce you proper & safe shotgun shooting and will probably let you try various guns, so you can make an informed decision.

04-01-2008, 09:32 AM	#10
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a single-shot break action 20ga and .410ga, and love them. The .410 was actually my first firearm. I would recommend: H & R Firearms: Firearms: Shotguns (I have the Junior Classic in .410. I still use it today because of its ease to carry through the woods. It weighs pretty much nothing, especially compared to my pump action shotguns) or Remington SPR100™ Single Shot Specifications (I own an SPR310 (over-under), and it's probably my favorite shotgun. These are Baikal Firearms, which means their made in the Russia's historic Izhevsky Manufacturing Plant. During World War II it produced countless Tokarev 1933 pistols, Nagant 1895 revolvers, Degtyaryov and Simonov anti-tank rifles and other military armament, including rocket launchers.) Baikal Firearms Anyway, either of these would be great choices. For your first shotgun, I would probably stick to a 20ga. There is little that you can't do with a 20ga that you would be able to do with a 12ga.

04-01-2008, 10:08 AM	#12
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	I agree with Andrew for only a few dollars more you can buy one of these ! Instead of a single shot. Pardner® Pump Walnut ModelPardner® Pump WalnutAmmo12 Gauge (NP1-228)Order Online 20 Gauge (NP1-206)StockAmerican Walnut with grooved fore-end and ventilated recoil pad.Barrel28" (12 Ga); 26" (20 Ga)ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength48-1/8" (12 Ga.) 46-1/8" (20 Ga.)Length of Pull14-1/4"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/2"Weight7-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual (Specifications subject to change without notice) back to top Pardner® Pump-Synthetic ModelPardner® Pump-SyntheticAmmo12 Gauge (NP1-2S8) 20 Gauge (NP1-2S6)StockBlack synthetic with grooved fore-end and ventilated recoil pad.Barrel28" (12 Ga); 26" (20 Ga)ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength48-1/8" (12 Ga.) 46-1/8" (20 Ga.)Length of Pull14-1/4"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/2"Weight7-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual (Specifications subject to change without notice) back to top Pardner® Pump Compact ModelPardner Pump CompactAmmo20 GaugeStockAmerican walnut (Shown, NP1-201) Black Synthetic (NP1-2S1) Full Dip Camo (NP1-2C1)Barrel21"ChamberUp to 3"Magazine Capacity5 (3-shot plug furnished)SightsBead front; drilled and tapped for scope baseChokeScrew-in ModifiedLength40"Length of Pull13"Drop at Comb1-1/2"Drop at Heel2-1/4"Weight6-1/2 lbs.Owner's ManualDownload Owner's Manual I paid I think a grand total of $ 180.00 for the wood 20ga. and I give you my word it is well made and NICE !!!...A.H

04-01-2008, 12:30 PM	#13
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	Ohhhh...I like that compact shotgun. It makes me want to get one of these so badly for home defense: Remington Model 870™ Marine Magnum™ Specifications That's off topic though, since the price range is a bit more than our original poster wants to spend. But fun to look at nonetheless Last edited by Bravo; 04-01-2008 at 12:34 PM.

04-01-2008, 02:40 PM	#14
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	First shotgun I ever had was an Ithaca 66 single shot in 20 ga, bought with my own money I went out and earned myself cutting lawns and washing cars. Not that brought back a few happy memories! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

04-01-2008, 02:58 PM	#16
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	Your reasons for wanting a single shot are very valid. Cheap pump actions will more than likely be of much poorer quality than a single shot for just a bit less. H&R makes very good quality Single-Shot Shotguns.

04-01-2008, 03:08 PM	#17
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 752 Trader Rating: (0)	Nothing wrong with the singles, they have few parts to break and are simple to check for loaded or not. I started my boys with singles in the 70's and the guns are still in ex. shape. I suggest you start with a 20ga as it kicks less than the 12 but patterns better than the 4.10 and is easy to find shells for, unlike the 28 or 16.

04-01-2008, 05:42 PM	#18
.22hustler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (0)	All good advice.My only experience with a single shot was many years ago. I took a buddies young son, about 15, out duck hunting and he had a single shot 12 guage. He couldn't hit a tree with this gun. I let him use my 1200, and within several shots he had his first duck. I tried his single and with shooting 2 3/4" #4 magnums, this gun was a HANDFUL! The poor kid was scared of the recoil it delivered, and with good reason. He wasn't a big kid, and this gun his dad bought for his son's first gun was a doozy!

04-01-2008, 06:06 PM	#19
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	I probably wouldn't get a 12ga in single-shot because of recoil issues, but once you add a bit of weight, like with an over/under or pump action even, the recoil is very manageable.

04-01-2008, 06:16 PM	#20
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey Bravo the H&R-NEF Pardner Pump is a very nice shotgun, fit and finish is excellent. As dumb as this may sound I bought mine out of curiosity after looking it over and what not it is a nice shotgun. Andrew Cockran another member here bought one and he says the same about his. I wanted the compact but due to barrel leght I ordered the adult size. And where you'll know the 20ga's are scaled down to what 20ga. size should be. These shotguns are Remington 870 clones with all parts interchangeable except on the 20ga maybe. Andrew bought his for $120.00 I think he said...A.H