I want to know about this parts set

ttwinsupra · 04-04-2008, 10:32 AM

I did find this FULL AUTO parts set for $195 but i dont know anything about these ( GunBroker.com guns: RIFLE GUN PARTS SET FULL AUTO ROMANIAN AK-47 AK47 (item: 96448377 ends: Apr-04-08 01

54 AM) ) I have no gun building experience but i think i could figure it out (is this a realy hard thing to do?) and also whats up with this full auto set seems shady, why is it so cheep? seems to good to be true. what parts would i need? is it legal? I live in AZ so most of its all good. (IS IT WORTH IT?)

cetmedog · 04-04-2008, 05:58 PM

The full auto parts are legal to own but not use. Any receiver you get will not have the 3rd axis hole for the auto sear and if you do get one illegally you go up the river. You get those parts but have to replace the FCG anyway with US made parts to be 922 compliant. To me that $195 price is a little high.

jmp8927 · 04-04-2008, 06:18 PM

Full auto parts are widely available. After all, every military issue AK-47 is fully-auto. As for the parts kit, it works. You'll have to buy another receiver and detach everything from the chopped up receiver that's there now. After that you'll have to install everything in the receiver you buy. Can be done pretty easily if you have the tools and know how. As said above, you'll need to buy a compliance set so it will be legal and unless a minimum of 10years + a hefty fine is attractive, you not gonna want that fully auto. I personally don't see why a person would want it myself. I perfer semi-auto.

greasegun · 04-06-2008, 01:12 AM

Why have a illegal full auto when you can bump fire :]

jmp8927 · 04-06-2008, 08:56 AM

^I have never seen why people do that. You can't hit didly squat bump firing. At least shooting a real full auto you can hit the broad side of a barn. That being said, I would rather hit the window in that barn shooting semi-auto than just the broadside using full auto or just miss the entire thing bump firing.

cetmedog · 04-06-2008, 09:14 AM

Why do we run instead of walk, why do we go a 100 mile a hour instead of 25, why do we like 50 guns and not just one, and it all comes down to just because. Im sure you do some things that others think are "wrong or crazy" but you like doing it in spite of what others think because YOU like it. Its all in fun.

ttwinsupra · 04-06-2008, 11:22 AM

how can u get a legal full auto gun? do you just have to pay like $20000 for one? or is there a way you can do it yourself with like some specal form or license or something, would it be easy to keep this parts set full auto legally?

SwedeSteve · 04-06-2008, 05:12 PM

You can get a Class III License, but they are spendy.

just_a_car · 04-07-2008, 03:21 AM

To get a full-auto gun without being a Class III dealer with an FFL, you have to first check that your state laws allow it (mine don't) and then find one you like at any dealer that has them or online that run anywhere from $3,000-30,000, then go through the BATFE process of getting a $200 tax stamp for the firearm and have it transferred to you through a Class III FFL dealer.

You may see full-auto firearms for much, much less, than that, but that's because they were made after 1986 and can only be transferred to Law Enforcement, Military or Class III dealers. Machine guns made after 1986 can not be legally transferred to individuals (this includes making one from scratch).

In other words, if you get an AK receiver, an AK parts set, and make it full-auto, you've just made a firearm that was put together after 1986 and you are in violation of federal law. DON'T DO IT!

azgunnut01 · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

AZ does allow full auto (with the $200 dollar tax stamp). Had one but learned everyone wanted to shoot it and nobody wanted to by ammo. I'll stick with semi-auto from now on.

04-04-2008, 10:32 AM	#1
ttwinsupra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (0)	I want to know about this parts set I did find this FULL AUTO parts set for $195 but i dont know anything about these ( GunBroker.com guns: RIFLE GUN PARTS SET FULL AUTO ROMANIAN AK-47 AK47 (item: 96448377 ends: Apr-04-08 0154 AM) ) I have no gun building experience but i think i could figure it out (is this a realy hard thing to do?) and also whats up with this full auto set seems shady, why is it so cheep? seems to good to be true. what parts would i need? is it legal? I live in AZ so most of its all good. (IS IT WORTH IT?)

04-04-2008, 06:18 PM	#3
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (0)	Full auto parts are widely available. After all, every military issue AK-47 is fully-auto. As for the parts kit, it works. You'll have to buy another receiver and detach everything from the chopped up receiver that's there now. After that you'll have to install everything in the receiver you buy. Can be done pretty easily if you have the tools and know how. As said above, you'll need to buy a compliance set so it will be legal and unless a minimum of 10years + a hefty fine is attractive, you not gonna want that fully auto. I personally don't see why a person would want it myself. I perfer semi-auto. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

04-06-2008, 08:56 AM	#5
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (0)	^I have never seen why people do that. You can't hit didly squat bump firing. At least shooting a real full auto you can hit the broad side of a barn. That being said, I would rather hit the window in that barn shooting semi-auto than just the broadside using full auto or just miss the entire thing bump firing. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

04-06-2008, 05:12 PM	#8
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	You can get a Class III License, but they are spendy. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-07-2008, 03:21 AM	#9
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,414 Trader Rating: (0)	To get a full-auto gun without being a Class III dealer with an FFL, you have to first check that your state laws allow it (mine don't) and then find one you like at any dealer that has them or online that run anywhere from $3,000-30,000, then go through the BATFE process of getting a $200 tax stamp for the firearm and have it transferred to you through a Class III FFL dealer. You may see full-auto firearms for much, much less, than that, but that's because they were made after 1986 and can only be transferred to Law Enforcement, Military or Class III dealers. Machine guns made after 1986 can not be legally transferred to individuals (this includes making one from scratch). In other words, if you get an AK receiver, an AK parts set, and make it full-auto, you've just made a firearm that was put together after 1986 and you are in violation of federal law. DON'T DO IT! __________________

04-04-2008, 05:58 PM	#2
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (0)	The full auto parts are legal to own but not use. Any receiver you get will not have the 3rd axis hole for the auto sear and if you do get one illegally you go up the river. You get those parts but have to replace the FCG anyway with US made parts to be 922 compliant. To me that $195 price is a little high.

04-06-2008, 01:12 AM	#4
greasegun Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: terre haute,indiana Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0)	Why have a illegal full auto when you can bump fire :]

04-06-2008, 09:14 AM	#6
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (0)	Why do we run instead of walk, why do we go a 100 mile a hour instead of 25, why do we like 50 guns and not just one, and it all comes down to just because. Im sure you do some things that others think are "wrong or crazy" but you like doing it in spite of what others think because YOU like it. Its all in fun.

04-06-2008, 11:22 AM	#7
ttwinsupra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (0)	how can u get a legal full auto gun? do you just have to pay like $20000 for one? or is there a way you can do it yourself with like some specal form or license or something, would it be easy to keep this parts set full auto legally?

04-07-2008, 10:31 PM	#10
azgunnut01 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 90 Trader Rating: (0)	AZ does allow full auto (with the $200 dollar tax stamp). Had one but learned everyone wanted to shoot it and nobody wanted to by ammo. I'll stick with semi-auto from now on.