Old shotgun

Sooner Shooter · 03-21-2008, 10:59 PM

This is my dad's dad's gun. I'm pretty sure it was made in the early 1900's. All I can see on this gun is Montgomery Ward on the rib. It's a double barrel 32" full choke barrel with two triggers. It doesn't even have full choke written on it but I remember using the dime method to check it. I know the guns are even more full now than in years past but isn't it if a dime won't fit it's a full choke? It has a walnut stock. Actually my main question is who made this gun? I may be mistaken but didn't most of the doubles back then have hammers? I'm thinking this may be one of the first hammerless. It still locks up fine but I don't think it's a high quality gun. Help me out on any of the questions if you can? Thanks

Mike82 · 03-27-2008, 10:24 AM

hmmmm....hammerless, nice, lemme do some checking for ya, i'm trying to lookup info on an old gun i'm trying to restore also, all it says on rib is "Bridge Gun Works - Belgium"

here's a link i found that may give you an idea, considering many guns that were sold by montgomery ward, sears, etc also had the sellers mark on them, like your Montgomery-Ward....this link shows an EA hammerless from sears, but montgomery ward could've sold this model as well: Sears Shotguns 1936 Ad

click the link to show full size and see if you can compare the pic of their's to your grandaddy's gun.

Earl Easter · 03-27-2008, 10:50 AM

Sooner Shooter
Hard to say without the picture but i think Montgomery Wards out of Chicago, Illinois.
Names like Western Field and Hercules have been used to designate various Mont. Wards shotguns at various times. I think the model SD52A Is what ya have but wait for the better educated viewers to comment..... They also made a SB312 double triggers but i don't think it came in a 32" barrel...........

Mike82 · 03-27-2008, 10:54 AM

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Fox, L.C. Smith, and Winchester Model 21 were also hammerless side-by-sides made around 1925.

yeah....i'm just throwing BS i've found about it online....'Ask Earl' lol

Sooner Shooter · 03-31-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike82

hmmmm....hammerless, nice, lemme do some checking for ya, i'm trying to lookup info on an old gun i'm trying to restore also, all it says on rib is "Bridge Gun Works - Belgium"

here's a link i found that may give you an idea, considering many guns that were sold by montgomery ward, sears, etc also had the sellers mark on them, like your Montgomery-Ward....this link shows an EA hammerless from sears, but montgomery ward could've sold this model as well: Sears Shotguns 1936 Ad

click the link to show full size and see if you can compare the pic of their's to your grandaddy's gun.

I'll have to go back to dad's house and look at it again but I'm pretty sure there are no other markings. I'm thinking Stevens on the make but still not sure. I just bought a camera but my computer is so old it may not be able to produce photos. I appreciate the replies! I'm thinking it was made about 1905

OkieHenry · 03-31-2008, 04:15 AM

do you have a model #

wunhunglo · 03-31-2008, 04:30 AM

Take the fore-end & barrels off and note down everything and all numbers stamped on the shotgun; make life easy for us.

texnmidwest · 03-31-2008, 07:41 AM

If you have access to Blue Book of Gun Values there is a chart in the back that may help. Not real sure but I remember reading somewhere that a lot of different manufacturers made firearms for MW and Sears as well as others.

matt760 · 04-05-2008, 12:02 PM

stevens, savage, winchester, mossberg, others all made guns for M. W.

03-21-2008, 10:59 PM	#1
Sooner Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 683	Old shotgun This is my dad's dad's gun. I'm pretty sure it was made in the early 1900's. All I can see on this gun is Montgomery Ward on the rib. It's a double barrel 32" full choke barrel with two triggers. It doesn't even have full choke written on it but I remember using the dime method to check it. I know the guns are even more full now than in years past but isn't it if a dime won't fit it's a full choke? It has a walnut stock. Actually my main question is who made this gun? I may be mistaken but didn't most of the doubles back then have hammers? I'm thinking this may be one of the first hammerless. It still locks up fine but I don't think it's a high quality gun. Help me out on any of the questions if you can? Thanks __________________ Save the drama for your mama! Last edited by Sooner Shooter; 03-22-2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason: changed a sentence so it would make sense

03-27-2008, 10:24 AM	#2
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 1,750 Images: 7	hmmmm....hammerless, nice, lemme do some checking for ya, i'm trying to lookup info on an old gun i'm trying to restore also, all it says on rib is "Bridge Gun Works - Belgium" here's a link i found that may give you an idea, considering many guns that were sold by montgomery ward, sears, etc also had the sellers mark on them, like your Montgomery-Ward....this link shows an EA hammerless from sears, but montgomery ward could've sold this model as well: Sears Shotguns 1936 Ad click the link to show full size and see if you can compare the pic of their's to your grandaddy's gun. __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again! Last edited by Mike82; 03-27-2008 at 10:40 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-27-2008, 10:54 AM	#4
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 1,750 Images: 7	. . . . Fox, L.C. Smith, and Winchester Model 21 were also hammerless side-by-sides made around 1925. yeah....i'm just throwing BS i've found about it online....'Ask Earl' lol __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again! Last edited by Mike82; 03-27-2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-31-2008, 07:41 AM	#8
texnmidwest Where's that Coyote?! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,207	If you have access to Blue Book of Gun Values there is a chart in the back that may help. Not real sure but I remember reading somewhere that a lot of different manufacturers made firearms for MW and Sears as well as others. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-27-2008, 10:50 AM	#3
Earl Easter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 781 Images: 20	Sooner Shooter Hard to say without the picture but i think Montgomery Wards out of Chicago, Illinois. Names like Western Field and Hercules have been used to designate various Mont. Wards shotguns at various times. I think the model SD52A Is what ya have but wait for the better educated viewers to comment..... They also made a SB312 double triggers but i don't think it came in a 32" barrel...........

03-31-2008, 04:15 AM	#6
OkieHenry Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tahlequah, Oklahoma Posts: 80	do you have a model #

03-31-2008, 04:30 AM	#7
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 2,004	Take the fore-end & barrels off and note down everything and all numbers stamped on the shotgun; make life easy for us.

04-05-2008, 12:02 PM	#9
matt760 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 239	stevens, savage, winchester, mossberg, others all made guns for M. W.