The "Good Condition" guns

lowercase · 04-05-2008, 07:54 PM

I've read quite a few posts where people have bought the "like new to excellent" Yugo SKS rifles from sites like J & G or Classic Arms. I recently got one myself.

My question is:

Has anyone bought one of the guns listed as "good condition"? I'm seeing them advertised for $149 and I'm wondering what amounts to "good condition".

At that price, you can get one shipped to your door for less than the cost of a new Ruger 10/22.

texnmidwest · 04-05-2008, 08:10 PM

Really is a crap shoot. I have one that I would grade out as good condition. The bore is Good with strong rifling and shiny. The bolt does show wear enough to make the numbers almost imperceptible. Where the crap shoot comes into play is in the stock. I see this grade, or "Shooter's grade" at Duhnam's sports. The stocks on some of them look like they were laying in dirt for 40 years. I looked at one stock that half the wood was rotted of the right side. The left side looked pristine. Too bad. I would have bought it but it was 200 bucks!

My thinking is that if you are going to order a rifle get the best one you can for the money. If 100 bucks more will get you a much better rifle then wait a few months and get the better condition rifle. You will be happier in the long run.

marion57 · 04-05-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Really is a crap shoot. I have one that I would grade out as good condition. The bore is Good with strong rifling and shiny. The bolt does show wear enough to make the numbers almost imperceptible. Where the crap shoot comes into play is in the stock. I see this grade, or "Shooter's grade" at Duhnam's sports. The stocks on some of them look like they were laying in dirt for 40 years. I looked at one stock that half the wood was rotted of the right side. The left side looked pristine. Too bad. I would have bought it but it was 200 bucks!

My thinking is that if you are going to order a rifle get the best one you can for the money. If 100 bucks more will get you a much better rifle then wait a few months and get the better condition rifle. You will be happier in the long run.

Tex is right on .. BUT!! a lot of times you buy what you can afford , that being said Remember to read there grading standards and take them with a ton of salt!!

GlockMeister · 04-05-2008, 08:55 PM

Doesn't "good condition" also mean not numbers matching also, along with blemishes and what not?
Or do most sellers specify one way or the other if numbers match or not?

marion57 · 04-05-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Doesn't "good condition" also mean not numbers matching also, along with blemishes and what not?
Or do most sellers specify one way or the other if numbers match or not?

It depends on what rules the dealer follows.. there all different regardless what they tell you .. some follow and claim NRA standards and do follow them some claim and dont .. It was advertised that a certain dealer carried way above average mosins so I ordered one , when it came it was junk .. I called and they picked it up and made it good but its a example of how things can slide by even the best of dealers..As always its best tosee who you know got what its always
BUYER Beware

SwedeSteve · 04-06-2008, 02:55 AM

This is exactly why I say, buyer beware! There is a lot of crap out there. You have a 50% chance of a good deal. You can always send it back at your cost though! As I tend to deal with private sellers, Marion, Tex, and others have more experience in the Dealer sales! Good luck!

marion57 · 04-06-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

This is exactly why I say, buyer beware! There is a lot of crap out there. You have a 50% chance of a good deal. You can always send it back at your cost though! As I tend to deal with private sellers, Marion, Tex, and others have more experience in the Dealer sales! Good luck!

I also prefer to deal with private sellers such as my last purchase

billy · 04-06-2008, 03:34 AM

that is why for the sks's i have purchased .
i have bought NEW/UNISSIUED rifles
guess what?
i have never had 1 jam/malfunction of any kind whatsoever.
i keep reading about all these problems folks have with semiauto milsurps that they could have avoided by spending 50 more bucks.
as far as mosins go luckily they are so tough and simple that they are still functional after 60 years of abuse.
they are so cheap the price of one just barely covers the price of dinner for two!
and thats if you dont tip OR drink.
i dont want to sound harsh but....
if you can only afford a 40 dollar rifle.
that is what you are gonna get.

dont expect miracles

Dookiebutt · 04-06-2008, 08:10 AM

I have two yugos. Each was advertised as being in good condition. One has carvings in the stock and the numbers do not match. The bore is pitted. The other is all-matching, perfect bore and only one small ding in the wood. Go figure.

texnmidwest · 04-06-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dookiebutt

I have two yugos. Each was advertised as being in good condition. One has carvings in the stock and the numbers do not match. The bore is pitted. The other is all-matching, perfect bore and only one small ding in the wood. Go figure.

Depending on what the carving was I may pay extra for it!!!

marion57 · 04-06-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

that is why for the sks's i have purchased .
i have bought NEW/UNISSIUED rifles
guess what?
i have never had 1 jam/malfunction of any kind whatsoever.
i keep reading about all these problems folks have with semiauto milsurps that they could have avoided by spending 50 more bucks.
as far as mosins go luckily they are so tough and simple that they are still functional after 60 years of abuse.
they are so cheap the price of one just barely covers the price of dinner for two!
and thats if you dont tip OR drink.
i dont want to sound harsh but....
if you can only afford a 40 dollar rifle.
that is what you are gonna get.

dont expect miracles

Finally got off the lake titty cacca water eh billy ?

+1

billy · 04-06-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Depending on what the carving was I may pay extra for it!!!

MEBBE IT'S A NEKKID LADY?

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Originally Posted by marion57

Finally got off the lake titty cacca water eh billy ?

+1

no i just happened to be in front of my computer when i had a flash of common sense.
dont worry it passed.....

texnmidwest · 04-06-2008, 09:30 AM

I would pay a lot of money for a Mosin or SKS with a Nekkid lady carved into the stock!!!

jmp8927 · 04-06-2008, 09:52 AM

For the record, a mismatched parts SKS isn't necessarily a bad thing. My Dad's Norinco is mismatched. I think it has 3 different numbers. It shoots as good or better than my matching Norinco and always has. It isn't in as good of condition cosmetically, but that never hurts how a rifle works.

texnmidwest · 04-06-2008, 10:26 AM

So true. matching numbers counts mostly to collectors. It is kinda like the bore condition. Sometimes the worst bores can shoot pretty well!

marion57 · 04-06-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

I would pay a lot of money for a Mosin or SKS with a Nekkid lady carved into the stock!!!

send your sks I will carve a lady into it ( big foots wife LOL)

texnmidwest · 04-06-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marion57

send your sks I will carve a lady into it ( big foots wife LOL)

OK! I'll Do it! NNOOOTTT!!!

I've just been lookin for an excuse to use that smilie!

ArkansasHunter · 04-06-2008, 08:17 PM

Tex you wanna buy a Mosin with Rosie O'Donalds face on it, where your cheek goes on the stock...She's puckering ?

marion57 · 04-07-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Tex you wanna buy a Mosin with Rosie O'Donalds face on it, where your cheek goes on the stock...She's puckering ?

Dont tempt him A.H>

he would likeit!

04-05-2008, 07:54 PM	#1
lowercase Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 272	The "Good Condition" guns I've read quite a few posts where people have bought the "like new to excellent" Yugo SKS rifles from sites like J & G or Classic Arms. I recently got one myself. My question is: Has anyone bought one of the guns listed as "good condition"? I'm seeing them advertised for $149 and I'm wondering what amounts to "good condition". At that price, you can get one shipped to your door for less than the cost of a new Ruger 10/22.

04-05-2008, 08:10 PM	#2
texnmidwest Where's that Coyote?! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,080	Really is a crap shoot. I have one that I would grade out as good condition. The bore is Good with strong rifling and shiny. The bolt does show wear enough to make the numbers almost imperceptible. Where the crap shoot comes into play is in the stock. I see this grade, or "Shooter's grade" at Duhnam's sports. The stocks on some of them look like they were laying in dirt for 40 years. I looked at one stock that half the wood was rotted of the right side. The left side looked pristine. Too bad. I would have bought it but it was 200 bucks! My thinking is that if you are going to order a rifle get the best one you can for the money. If 100 bucks more will get you a much better rifle then wait a few months and get the better condition rifle. You will be happier in the long run. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

04-05-2008, 08:55 PM	#4
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,163	Doesn't "good condition" also mean not numbers matching also, along with blemishes and what not? Or do most sellers specify one way or the other if numbers match or not? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-06-2008, 02:55 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,179 Images: 1	This is exactly why I say, buyer beware! There is a lot of crap out there. You have a 50% chance of a good deal. You can always send it back at your cost though! As I tend to deal with private sellers, Marion, Tex, and others have more experience in the Dealer sales! Good luck! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-06-2008, 03:34 AM	#8
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 13,890 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	that is why for the sks's i have purchased . i have bought NEW/UNISSIUED rifles guess what? i have never had 1 jam/malfunction of any kind whatsoever. i keep reading about all these problems folks have with semiauto milsurps that they could have avoided by spending 50 more bucks. as far as mosins go luckily they are so tough and simple that they are still functional after 60 years of abuse. they are so cheap the price of one just barely covers the price of dinner for two! and thats if you dont tip OR drink. i dont want to sound harsh but.... if you can only afford a 40 dollar rifle. that is what you are gonna get. dont expect miracles __________________ Last edited by billy; 04-06-2008 at 03:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-06-2008, 08:10 AM	#9
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,276	I have two yugos. Each was advertised as being in good condition. One has carvings in the stock and the numbers do not match. The bore is pitted. The other is all-matching, perfect bore and only one small ding in the wood. Go figure.

04-06-2008, 09:30 AM	#13
texnmidwest Where's that Coyote?! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,080	I would pay a lot of money for a Mosin or SKS with a Nekkid lady carved into the stock!!! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

04-06-2008, 09:52 AM	#14
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,189 Images: 17	For the record, a mismatched parts SKS isn't necessarily a bad thing. My Dad's Norinco is mismatched. I think it has 3 different numbers. It shoots as good or better than my matching Norinco and always has. It isn't in as good of condition cosmetically, but that never hurts how a rifle works. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

04-06-2008, 10:26 AM	#15
texnmidwest Where's that Coyote?! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,080	So true. matching numbers counts mostly to collectors. It is kinda like the bore condition. Sometimes the worst bores can shoot pretty well! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

04-06-2008, 08:17 PM	#18
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,931	Tex you wanna buy a Mosin with Rosie O'Donalds face on it, where your cheek goes on the stock...She's puckering ?