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| Senior Member | .22 differences why is a hollow point better than a rounded point becouse i have heard this alot that they are better why? and i know this is probobly a repeat.
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| Banned | I think the hollow point may be a bit more effective on very small game, as it mushrooms more easily. On bigger game I think they are similar. I fired a few of each the other day into a pail of sand. The mushroom size in sand is very similar. I could notice more difference between standard and high velociy. The HV ones mushroom right around more. Overall diameter is still similar. I think solid points are generally more accurate. Ron |
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| Senior Member | Perhaps not always Perhaps not always the better choice, but a hollow-point is a design that via rapid expansion and stopping in the game will transmit greater energy thus having put down capability. It is possible to shoot through small game with a solid point .22 bullet. |
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| Senior Member ![]() | They sum it up nicely! You gotta love this site! I would encourage you guys to donate to this site! If you had ONE question answered. I would lose one of my greatest tools if this site shut down for financial reasons! Never mind all the friend I've made!
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| Member | HP vs solids From what I have heard the HP have a difficult time reaching full expansion on small game such as rabbits ans squrrels and solids work about the same. I use HP on larger animals such as woodchucks montveil |
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| Senior Member ![]() | Originally hollowpoints were not designed for rapid expansion.They were designed to shift the center of gravity to the back of the bullet for greater accuracy and a higher BC.Low velocity bullets with hollowpoints usually dont expand as much as roundnose or solid bullets because the hollow center allows energy to be directed in on the bullet instead of straight back and out.This causes faster upset in solid bullets.The polimer tips drive straight back,splitting the jacket,causing rapid upset. sam. Last edited by samuel; 04-07-2008 at 09:22 AM. |
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| Senior Member | The name of the Game is to use a Bullet that archives the most Penetration, and 100% of the Bullets Energy expended into the Target without a Shoot Though (shoot through's are lost energy)... You need to take the Target your going to be shooting at into account when choosing the Bullet you will use to be most effective... You need to think of a Hollow Point as Para shoot, that will expand, and prevent a shoot through, to make a Target absorb 100% of the Bullet's energy... Naturally you would use a a Hollow point on Varmints to get the Most energy absorbed by the Target... On Bigger Targets, you must consider using .22 Solid Points to take into account the needed Penetration to reach Depth of the Targets internal organs... Because of the Low "FPE" (foot pounds energy) of a .22, you will be most effective shooting Solid Points to get Effective Penetration Depth to POKE holes in Vital Organs to Bleed out the Target... Naturally you would use MAX Energy Solid Point .22's to take out Humans...!!! The FBI's 12" rule of Human Penetration must be taken into account choosing the Right .22 AMMO for the Job At Hand... Please check the Link to choose a Bullet that will achieve the Right Penetration, while expending 100% of the Bullets Energy INTO THE TARGET...<:-)) 22LR Gel Tests~The GEL Tells No Lies... GoldenLoki.com ~These two look like they would be good for Bigger Game~ Aguila Super Maximum 30gr HP Federal Lightning 40gr Ball ~Looks like a Great Varmint Round~ CCI Stinger 32gr HP Last edited by SgtKnuckles; 04-07-2008 at 11:32 AM. |
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| Senior Member | i see but dont you think that a hollow point would be a better allround bullet becouse i just walkaround in brush until i find something i want to shoot the biggest thing i would shoot would mabie be a badger and the smallest might be a sparrow but i only shoot those if i am realy bored.
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| Senior Member | Penetration My brother & I used to hunt racoons quite heavily in the early to mid 80's Great $ in those day's The hollow points work ok on lite'r game "squirlls,rabbits & such" coons required heavy solids after learning the hard way, we were shooting as best we could "we go for the head to reduce holes in hide" and hollow points were splatting but not makeing there way thru knocking em out and they would come to and scare the hell outta us having bleeding coons trying to crawl out the box in the truck" the first we used were very accurate Winchester,34gr? .22Lr hollowpoints "white box with a wildcat on the label"they functioned well in 10/22 & Marlin 60. we went heaver trying different brands for accuracy and relibility and settled on Remington 40gr Lr solids High Velocitys "100 rnd green plastic boxes" the were cheaper than CCI and we had good accuracy thruought the night and very few problems with feeding except for a dirty gun, we would manage to shoot 150 rnds a night, we alwase cleaned our .22's just after evening chores 6pm and going out and hunting till 2am and late as 4 am depending how far we went, big coon in them day's were bringing 35 to 40 dollars skinned, un-skinned at the fur buyers "they would dock $7 off for skinning fee, the best night we has was 14 in one night! We definately dident want any critters getting away! Use what works, we try'd gimik ammo but never bought more than a box of 50 trunicated cone hyper velocity stuff looked wicked but some times we couldent even hit anything with the stuff, wouldent even throw snow or dirt close by the target, they went who know's were the damn things went! Last edited by Rex in OTZ; 04-07-2008 at 08:42 PM. Reason: more info |
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| Senior Member | More damage on small targets I shot A LOT of gophers in my long past youth. For those of you who live in places that don't have them, "gophers" aren't really gophers at all, they are ground squirrels of several species and range in size from a little bigger than a mouse to slightly smaller than a red squirrel. The difference in damage to a critter that size between HP and solid .22 bullets is very noticeable. My father always insisted we use HPs as he did not like to see cripples crawling back into the hole. All the target .22LR ammunition I know of is solid. I use solids (CCI SGB) when hunting tree squirrels but do so to minimize damage if I have to take a body shot. One other consideration. HP bullets tend to ricochet less than solids. I suspect this has to do with the better deformation of the bullet when it hits something. |
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