04-12-2008, 02:55 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas
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| 20 shot "velo dog"? Double Barreled Revolvers (Hell in a Handbasket) Scroll down past the LeMat to the...weirdness below. It's a 20-shot, break top revolver. Bizarre design, but it used a .22 centerfire cartridge called a "velo-dog". The author links to another article about the round here: Doggin' the Velo (Hell in a Handbasket) And now there is math. The second article says this: "That image above is a screenshot I saved because something was bothering me. Take a look at the ballistic info on the 5.75mm Velo-Dog cartridges. The other three calibers listed shoot heavier bullets at a faster speed, yet the VD round is in the same ballpark so far as foot-pounds of energy delivered to the target? That seems to violate the laws of physics. In fact, the 325 ft/lbs that Sportsman's Guide claims the VD delivers to the target is similar to a military 9mm load." "So I crunched the numbers myself. The formula to find ft/lbs is ... ((velocity x velocity)/450400) x (bullet weight in grains). The VD launches a 45 gr bullet at 750 ft per sec. Let me go to my computer's accessories, choose the calculator function, and punch in the values... Hmm. I am getting 56 ft/lbs and some change" So, for those of you who really know your stuff where this is concerned, who's right? Is this dinky little centerfire cartridge actually packing some punch, or would you be lucky to break though an attacker's shirt? - Coeloptera |
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04-12-2008, 01:35 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota (Becker County)
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| I remember in the 60s several articles in gun magazines about this "Mysterious" cartridge. Lots of conjecture but little fact. It wasn't until many years later when I started riding bicycles as an adult and began to do some research on early bicycle clubs and the equipment used that I found reference to these guns. First of all "velo" was a term used for bicycles and bicycle equipment. The cartridge you are interested in got it's name because it was used in "velo-dog" guns and they were quite popular in the US for their intended use which was to protect bicycle riders from dogs. Remember, in those days dogs ran loose and chased most anything they wanted. The idea was to dissuade the dog, not kill it much as today riders will carry ammonia spray or pepper spray. In the US the little guns never gained popularity for anything but their intended use. The ready availability of more powerful handguns no doubt had something to do with that. It's possible that they may have gained some popularity in Europe outside their intended purpose, after all they considered the 380 an adequate police cartridge till recently. |
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04-12-2008, 02:00 PM
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| Senior Member   Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas
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| Now that would make a dandy bedside companion for home defense...A.H |
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04-12-2008, 07:45 PM
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| Those wacky Belgians - they made double-barrel revolvers in 36 and 48 shot models too. My "Illustrated Encyclopedia Of Handguns" shows the monsters. Me, I'd like to see a holster for one . . . 
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04-12-2008, 09:39 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn.
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| My favorite oddball was a revolver with 2 barrels (over under) and held 20 some shells in its cylinder and would fire 2 shells every time you pulled the trigger. Saw it in an old gun mag. years ago. That and the Vampyre gun it was built into a cross and fired a silver bullet (single shot blk powder) and the silver bullets were numbered and the first couple were missing making you wonder if they were used? The Vamp gun was from the 1800's Last edited by big boomer; 04-12-2008 at 09:42 PM. |
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