Emergency Medical Care

[alex1b]

I just discovered your forums and i've been reading ALOT during the last few days, I'm surprised no one (in a TON of threads i read) mentioned anything more than a "first aid kit".

I'm an EMT and i know the difference between a "first aid kit" and what i carry with me at all times; my jump kits for Basic Life Support and Advanced Life Support.
In any true survival situation you or someone you love might be hurt and having the right equipment can make a life or death difference.

Lets face it, a bug out situation is not as likely as one where you are stuck at home caring for your family or your neighbors. Be prepared, learn some true first aid skills, not as easy as going to the store and buying a gun for protection. Any EMT, Paramedic, nurse, or doctor you know would gladly give you some tips on First Aid or CPR. I teach Basic Life Support for American Heart A. and would gladly give anyone that asked the information they need to save a life.

I know that personal protection, food storage, and transportation are just as important, i just wanted to share another aspect of survival which could be overlooked.

If anyone wants to know about the equipment i keep in my Jump Kit and how any of it can be used let me know, i'll even post some pictures later.

About jump kits:
Even with my training i could not save lives or even treat a broken bone with equipment found in most first aid kits

A wise paramedic once said:
"if you dont know how to use it dont buy it" - but remember the life saving skills we use in the field every day can be taught to anyone!

Thanks everyone!

[Rex in OTZ]

I would recomend takeing a Wilderness First Aid course.
LTR "Learn To Return" a Alaskan based educational Company had quite a few courses "Arctic Land Survival" "Wilderness First Aid" "Dunker Training"
these guy's hold training courses for who ever wants to pay the mainly cater to the Military Base's here in Alaska.

[mitch_mckee]

We have a very extensive first aid kit, put together by an RN, my wife.

I'd like to hear about any suggestions from you. Bleeding, breathing, breaks, infection.

Welcome BTW.

[stitchclimber]

Here Here! As a recently graduated EMT student I second that. A detailed medic bag and a little training can make a word of difference.

[Mad Hatter]

I wouldn't mind hearing about how to treat a bullet wound and how to surgically remove it..

[mitch_mckee]

Infection control in a wilderness environment!

Appendix!

Hypothermia!

Wound management!

anything "Where there is no doctor"

and a big question.

What about setting up an emergency clinic after a major disaster and that will need to last for 3 to 6 months?

[stitchclimber]

Mad Hatter. I can recommend that for a gsw to the chest where the blood is gurgling out of the hole (this means most likely a damaged lung, and the lung is at risk of a collapse) you take a piece of flexible plastic (think: the pocket of the sleeve on a three ring binder, or the constancy of a condom package), lube it up slightly and tape down 3 of the 4 sides, covering the wound. At this point when pressure inside the chest increases during inhalation the excess air will be vented out without producing excess pressure on the failing lung, and hopefully preventing a numothorax. And when chest pressure decreases the aclusive bandage will suction against the wound creating a seal.

I hope no one ever has to use this, but I hope it helps.

[nathangdad]

I have in prior posts mentioned not only kits but learning suturing and having medical guides to antibiotics, etc. in case of a truly bad situation.

[Mooseman684]

The problem I have faced for years is NOT being able to stockpile Meds for Emergency, not the over the counter stuff, but true antibiotics, Class 4 narcotics for pain management, Etc. They go out of date very fast and are hard to replace...
Don't laugh...I keep small tampons just for bullet wounds !!!
Rich

[ArkansasHunter]

I relize there are members here that do hunt in wilderness areas.
But where I hunt a 2 lane highway is less that a mile away.
A cell phone and a quality first aid kit normaly will do where I hunt.
With that said my son is a Paramedic and I've picked up a few things from him.
Though I havent done it, a first responders course and CPR course would be something worth learning.
It seems more hunters fall out with a heart attacks than being shot, snake bit or falling out of there Deer stand. Knowning CPR may make a differents wether they survive.

[GlockMeister]

Actually MM, that isn't a bad idea. As long as they're the unscented kind that is. lol
Hate to walk around if not a bad wound, or laying there if it is, smelling like a fresh meadow. lmfao

[TXplt]

Originally Posted by alex1b

I just discovered your forums and i've been reading ALOT during the last few days, I'm surprised no one (in a TON of threads i read) mentioned anything more than a "first aid kit".

I'm an EMT and i know the difference between a "first aid kit" and what i carry with me at all times; my jump kits for Basic Life Support and Advanced Life Support.
In any true survival situation you or someone you love might be hurt and having the right equipment can make a life or death difference.

Lets face it, a bug out situation is not as likely as one where you are stuck at home caring for your family or your neighbors. Be prepared, learn some true first aid skills, not as easy as going to the store and buying a gun for protection. Any EMT, Paramedic, nurse, or doctor you know would gladly give you some tips on First Aid or CPR. I teach Basic Life Support for American Heart A. and would gladly give anyone that asked the information they need to save a life.

I know that personal protection, food storage, and transportation are just as important, i just wanted to share another aspect of survival which could be overlooked.

If anyone wants to know about the equipment i keep in my Jump Kit and how any of it can be used let me know, i'll even post some pictures later.

About jump kits:
Even with my training i could not save lives or even treat a broken bone with equipment found in most first aid kits

A wise paramedic once said:
"if you dont know how to use it dont buy it" - but remember the life saving skills we use in the field every day can be taught to anyone!

Thanks everyone!

Please do post what you stock. I have my ideas, but really would like to see yours.

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

The problem I have faced for years is NOT being able to stockpile Meds for Emergency, not the over the counter stuff, but true antibiotics, Class 4 narcotics for pain management, Etc. They go out of date very fast and are hard to replace...
Don't laugh...I keep small tampons just for bullet wounds !!!
Rich

+1--I can stock all the OTC stuff (motrin, Asprin, Tylenol, Iodine which are great) but NO antibiotics--I don't know why we don't have access to Amoxicillin and Zithromax, etc.............Even Mexico can buy these on the open market.

As far as narcotics, maybe nice to have for pain, but the antibiotics are need to have. Most of us know of our sensitivity to Penicillin derivatives--why can't a doctor just "clear us hot" to buy our own antibiotics ?

[andrew cochran]

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

I relize there are members here that do hunt in wilderness areas.
But where I hunt a 2 lane highway is less that a mile away.
A cell phone and a quality first aid kit normaly will do where I hunt.
With that said my son is a Paramedic and I've picked up a few things from him.
Though I havent done it, a first responders course and CPR course would be something worth learning.
It seems more hunters fall out with a heart attacks than being shot, snake bit or falling out of there Deer stand. Knowning CPR may make a differents wether they survive.

Same with me I hunt about 2 miles from a small country highway.

[ArkansasHunter]

Andrew...You know thats one good thing about a cell phone, that you can take it hunting or hikeing.
And if an accident were to happen, maybe the Hospital or Ambulance service can direct you in what you can do for the victim of an accident, while help is on the way.
I've got a brand new Trac phone my wife gave me that I never use.
I recon I'll start takeing it when I go to the woods.
A.H

[andrew cochran]

Yeah, I am thinking about getting a tracphone. Been looking at them at Walmart.
You just got to make sure it is activated.

[ArkansasHunter]

My wife had this thang first (TracPhone) for a few years and then went an bought and signed up for one you pay for monthly.
That thang will do all sorts of stuff, play games tex message, take pictures and wish the dish's.

When she went to cancell the tractphone they said Naw Naw we want to send you this new superduper phone you'll really love it !!!
So she says OK and when it came she gave it to me.
It's little and as cute as a speckled puppy.
She keeps up with the minites and renewing stuff for me. All I gotta do is talk on it.
I for gets to take it with me when I go off some where though.
Maybe I oughta go find it and start carry it around with me and drive down the road like the rest of the world with it stuck to the side of my head.
Now where did I leave that thang ?

[andrew cochran]

Maybe I should get one of them thangs.

[Mad Hatter]

Thanks Stitch ..

[stitchclimber]

No prob

[Cyrano]

One thing I have in my Grab & Go bag's first aid kit is colloidal silver. This was the first antibiotic. It can be used internally and externally. You can buy it at almost any vitamin shop. It's not heat sensitive and it never goes out of date becaue it is inorganic. It used to be used in sailing ship days to treat venereal disease and is still used today to treat burns and bladder infections, amon other things

The only thing is, you have to be VERY careful using it because it can permanently dye your skin blue if you use too much of it, or use it for too long. There was an article in People Magazine a couple of months ago about a health nut who takes colloidal silver daily as a preventative measure. He makes his own using an electrolysis setup. He has the same color skin as the Andorians on Star Trek, because he's abused it.

Talk to a licensed nutritionist about how to use colloidal silver medically. I think you'll be surprised at its versatility.