colt vs.ruger?

billy · 04-20-2008, 04:48 AM

yesterday at a gun show i was looking at a colt S.A.A. and a ruger S.A.A. side by side.
i got to work the actions and handle both.
they were both very nice guns.
same weight and feel.
colt $2200
ruger $539
what would i be paying for with the extra $1661 for the colt?
the name?
bragging rights?
status?
is the quality so much better that the colt is worth over twice the price of my pickup truck?

i am curious .
thanks bill

okami515 · 04-20-2008, 06:52 AM

have to say the big differance is in the name and colletor value. the ruger has much better springs and less prone to breaking, but the colletor value just isn't there yet. kinda like a harley and any jap bike.

billy · 04-20-2008, 07:01 AM

that is a good comparison.
thank you!
harley=big name and very cool,breaks down a lot and good resale value.
jap bike= reliable value for the money and looks to the untrained eye like a harley at 1/4 the price.

p.s. before i get attacked......
over the years Harley-Davidson reliability has improved by quantum leaps,

Aarant · 04-20-2008, 08:08 AM

good defence Billy. I have road for the last 25 yrs. Harley has went up. But I have noticed Jap reliability has went down some. not sure why.
As far as Ruger vs Colt. I always thought the Rugers had more of a felt recoil. Other than that I agree with Okami515

madcratebuilder · 04-20-2008, 08:13 AM

Billy, I assume you are looking at a Ruger new Vaqureo? You should be able to find one nib, for $475+/-. Ruger has 50 years of history, Colt has 150+ history. My local gun shop has an old Colt SSA that they are asking $35,000 for, let's see, a seven year loan at 5.75 percent..........

PS: Real men ride Indians

billy · 04-20-2008, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aarant

good defence Billy. I have road for the last 25 yrs. Harley has went up. But I have noticed Jap reliability has went down some. not sure why.
As far as Ruger vs Colt. I always thought the Rugers had more of a felt recoil. Other than that I agree with Okami515

yeah,
i cant just say harley sucks!

i dont own and dont plan on owning an investment gun.
i USE mine.

if i am going to sink a buncha money into something that i cant use i will buy gold.

i just thought i was missing something in the quality department.
thanks for the thoughtful replies.
bill

there is an over 3 weeks wages price difference between those two revolvers.
no wonder i dont own one!

nathangdad · 04-20-2008, 11:02 AM

I definitely would not say a Colt has that much quality over a Ruger.
In fact, a new Ruger has (in my opinion) better design, better metallurgy,
and better quality control than the old Colts.

Perhaps the Colt was an antique in a level of quality that makes the collector interest justify the price difference. Also, there are buyers who
will pay a premium for the Colt name. When I was younger it was said having the Colt name on a revolver upped the price by $100.00.

billy · 04-20-2008, 11:04 AM

these were NIB firearms

here are some more realistic prices i found online.
we all know gun shows are a RIP OFF!

Colt Single Action Army Revolver P1850, 45 Long Colt, 5.5", $1,259.50

Ruger Vaquero 45LC 5.5" SS

$472.99

so there is only $786.51 difference.

note that the ruger is stainless steel.

stalebiscuit · 04-20-2008, 05:09 PM

colt, its quality

the ruger, its quality to...minus the huge expense

i dont think i will ever own a colt because it doesnt make sense for me to pay that much for a gun

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

these were NIB firearms

here are some more realistic prices i found online.
we all know gun shows are a RIP OFF!

Colt Single Action Army Revolver P1850, 45 Long Colt, 5.5", $1,259.50

Ruger Vaquero 45LC 5.5" SS

$472.99

so there is only $786.51 difference.

note that the ruger is stainless steel.

ive found a few good deals at gun shows, but mostly

ya its to much for what you want, i generally try to bust a deal with other patrons, or at the very end on sunday when the dealers are about to dip and wanna make a deal

how i picked up my ultra 87 12 gauge for 170 dollars even (it was priced at 180 but said hed drop 10 bucks and eat the tax on it, so i said, ok)

bigbuddy21 · 04-20-2008, 05:42 PM

mister billy, with the ruger your grandkids will be giving it to their grandkids.
i dont know if a colt would last like that.

billy · 04-21-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbuddy21

mister billy, with the ruger your grandkids will be giving it to their grandkids.
i dont know if a colt would last like that.

maybe if i put it in a safe because it was an investment?

jimkim · 04-21-2008, 08:24 AM

Who makes the colts now? Uberti?

ander254 · 04-21-2008, 08:49 AM

The only thing that increases more than a colt in value over the years is oil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

Billy, I assume you are looking at a Ruger new Vaqureo? You should be able to find one nib, for $475+/-. Ruger has 50 years of history, Colt has 150+ history. My local gun shop has an old Colt SSA that they are asking $35,000 for, let's see, a seven year loan at 5.75 percent..........

PS: Real men ride Indians

oh and nice indian. a buddy of mine has a silver cloud.

billy · 04-21-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ander254

The only thing that increases more than a colt in value over the years is oil.

oh and nice indian. a buddy of mine has a silver cloud.

how about gold?

madcratebuilder · 04-22-2008, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

how about gold?

Not even close, some documented Colts bring prices in the six figure range.
I sure would like to own one, but $1200 buys three Rugers or a really good scope.

Thanks ander254, my Garlic Indian, last bike I'll build. I tend to get road rage with all the crazies out there.

Cyrille · 04-22-2008, 07:59 AM

Billy---if you want reliability, shootability and accountability go with the Vaquero, not the "new" Vaquero. I have never found a revolver to top mine. True they are big and a bit on the heavy side but then so is a tank, not to mention myself.
Oh and bye the by I have a "Colt Cowboy" fine shooting "lil" revolver and believe it or not that particular "Colt" line has increased slightly in price if you can still find one It may be due to inflation though, not "collectability."

billy · 04-22-2008, 08:02 AM

i am not buying a colt anyway.
i was just curious.
those things cost too much!
i already have 3 cowboy guns.

for the price of a colt i got 2 pietta 1873S.A.A. and a new henry big boy in 45lc. AND A NEW GUNBELT AND A MARBLES TANG SIGHT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

Not even close, some documented Colts bring prices in the six figure range.
I sure would like to own one, but $1200 buys three Rugers or a really good scope.

Thanks ander254, my Garlic Indian, last bike I'll build. I tend to get road rage with all the crazies out there.

YEAH AND YOU GOTTA BUY THEM IN THE LOW 6 FIGURE RANGE i guess i meant colts that an ordinary person can buy .
not a multimillionaire

it's not like you can buy one for 2 grand and sell it in 10 years to buy a house.

rdale501 · 04-22-2008, 04:22 PM

[quote=billy;486472]i am not buying a colt anyway.
i was just curious.
those things cost too much!
i already have 3 cowboy guns.

for the price of a colt i got 2 pietta 1873S.A.A. and a new henry big boy in 45lc. AND A NEW GUNBELT AND A MARBLES TANG SIGHT.

How many marbles did you get, Billy?

billy · 04-22-2008, 04:24 PM

1
at $129 each it's all i could afford

04-20-2008, 04:48 AM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,690 Trader Rating: (0)	colt vs.ruger? yesterday at a gun show i was looking at a colt S.A.A. and a ruger S.A.A. side by side. i got to work the actions and handle both. they were both very nice guns. same weight and feel. colt $2200 ruger $539 what would i be paying for with the extra $1661 for the colt? the name? bragging rights? status? is the quality so much better that the colt is worth over twice the price of my pickup truck? i am curious . thanks bill __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

04-20-2008, 07:01 AM	#3
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,690 Trader Rating: (0)	that is a good comparison. thank you! harley=big name and very cool,breaks down a lot and good resale value. jap bike= reliable value for the money and looks to the untrained eye like a harley at 1/4 the price. p.s. before i get attacked...... over the years Harley-Davidson reliability has improved by quantum leaps, __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya! Last edited by billy; 04-20-2008 at 07:42 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-20-2008, 08:13 AM	#5
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)	Billy, I assume you are looking at a Ruger new Vaqureo? You should be able to find one nib, for $475+/-. Ruger has 50 years of history, Colt has 150+ history. My local gun shop has an old Colt SSA that they are asking $35,000 for, let's see, a seven year loan at 5.75 percent.......... PS: Real men ride Indians __________________ The difference between a hot dog and a weenie is a fine line..... Last edited by madcratebuilder; 04-20-2008 at 08:16 AM.

04-20-2008, 11:02 AM	#7
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,194 Trader Rating: (0)	Not quality I definitely would not say a Colt has that much quality over a Ruger. In fact, a new Ruger has (in my opinion) better design, better metallurgy, and better quality control than the old Colts. Perhaps the Colt was an antique in a level of quality that makes the collector interest justify the price difference. Also, there are buyers who will pay a premium for the Colt name. When I was younger it was said having the Colt name on a revolver upped the price by $100.00.

04-20-2008, 11:04 AM	#8
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,690 Trader Rating: (0)	these were NIB firearms here are some more realistic prices i found online. we all know gun shows are a RIP OFF! Colt Single Action Army Revolver P1850, 45 Long Colt, 5.5", $1,259.50 Ruger Vaquero 45LC 5.5" SS $472.99 so there is only $786.51 difference. note that the ruger is stainless steel. __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya! Last edited by billy; 04-20-2008 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-20-2008, 06:52 AM	#2
okami515 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (0)	have to say the big differance is in the name and colletor value. the ruger has much better springs and less prone to breaking, but the colletor value just isn't there yet. kinda like a harley and any jap bike.

04-20-2008, 08:08 AM	#4
Aarant Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: south Texas Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (0)	good defence Billy. I have road for the last 25 yrs. Harley has went up. But I have noticed Jap reliability has went down some. not sure why. As far as Ruger vs Colt. I always thought the Rugers had more of a felt recoil. Other than that I agree with Okami515

04-20-2008, 05:42 PM	#10
bigbuddy21 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new albany in. Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0)	mister billy, with the ruger your grandkids will be giving it to their grandkids. i dont know if a colt would last like that. __________________ LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

04-21-2008, 08:24 AM	#12
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,739 Trader Rating: (0)	Who makes the colts now? Uberti? __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

04-22-2008, 07:59 AM	#16
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,737 Trader Rating: (0)	Billy---if you want reliability, shootability and accountability go with the Vaquero, not the "new" Vaquero. I have never found a revolver to top mine. True they are big and a bit on the heavy side but then so is a tank, not to mention myself. Oh and bye the by I have a "Colt Cowboy" fine shooting "lil" revolver and believe it or not that particular "Colt" line has increased slightly in price if you can still find one It may be due to inflation though, not "collectability."

04-22-2008, 04:22 PM	#18
rdale501 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0)	[quote=billy;486472]i am not buying a colt anyway. i was just curious. those things cost too much! i already have 3 cowboy guns. for the price of a colt i got 2 pietta 1873S.A.A. and a new henry big boy in 45lc. AND A NEW GUNBELT AND A MARBLES TANG SIGHT. How many marbles did you get, Billy?

04-22-2008, 04:24 PM	#19
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,690 Trader Rating: (0)	1 at $129 each it's all i could afford __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!