No.4 mk2 sight question?

Zephri · 04-20-2008, 10:01 PM

Ok so I shot my no4 mk2 enfield today and it has the two position flip sight on it, marked 200m and 300m. It shoots about a foot or so high at 50 yards, is it supposed to shoot this high at this range?

Mooseman684 · 04-20-2008, 10:07 PM

sounds about right for the Trajectory at 300...
Rich

Zephri · 04-20-2008, 10:12 PM

Really, It drops that much? wow! I think I'll get a micrometer sight for it so I can shoot it at 50 yards with out having to aim really low. Thanks moose!

Mooseman684 · 04-20-2008, 10:24 PM

At a 100 Yard zero with a 150 gr Bullet at 2700 FPS. Muzzle Velocity the bullet will drop 15.9 inches at 300 yards....
Now you know why you Miss the target !!!
Rich

Zephri · 04-20-2008, 10:33 PM

Well when in doubt aim low... Thank for the details moose.

M14man · 04-20-2008, 11:46 PM

A foot high at 50 yards is way too high. Taking you literally, a bullet hitting 5-6" high at 100yds would be on for 300. If you are 12" high at 50yds, you will be nearly 2 feet high at 100 yds, and closer to a 600 yd zero.

sell33 · 04-21-2008, 12:07 AM

my enfield No. 4 mk. 1 has adjustable flip up rear sights...not sure what they are called (micrometer maybe), but marked 200m out to 1000m. it also shoots high at 100, i thought most military rifles were sighted in high. Of cousre i was using hte sight flipped up, maybe that is only meant for longer range so starting at 200 it may be closer to on target??

Zephri · 04-21-2008, 07:18 AM

Now that I look at it closer it is marked 300 and 600 and I think I might of been using the 600 meter setting. I must of not of looked at the stampings very well when I originally posted.

irish murphy · 04-21-2008, 07:31 AM

The sights on my no1mk3 are different.But they only drop down to 200yards on the numbers.But it will go down further to like 100yards unmarked.And it has always shot high.I was told awhile ago that most of those rifles were supposed to shoot like that.When you aimed at the human form you aim for the middle of body and the bullet will hit in the chest.

timberlord · 04-21-2008, 09:44 AM

Hitting high is normal at close ranges .
It's something the shooter has to learn about his rifle(s) .
for example...
When I'm sighting in on a Whitetail and say aprox 75yd give or take , my point of aim is the bottom of his chest , putting that pill right on his heart thats about 6" higher.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-21-2008, 01:59 PM

I have always had good results when shooting mil rifles at 100 yds sighting the 10 ring like a pumpkin on a stump. In other words you line up the top of your front sight at the bottom of the ten ring. You ajust from there until you bullseye. Works for me. Only problems is with the older rifles like 95 Mausers when they are sighted for longer distances.

04-20-2008, 10:01 PM	#1
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,115 Blog Entries: 6	No.4 mk2 sight question? Ok so I shot my no4 mk2 enfield today and it has the two position flip sight on it, marked 200m and 300m. It shoots about a foot or so high at 50 yards, is it supposed to shoot this high at this range? __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

04-20-2008, 10:07 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,401 Images: 2	sounds about right for the Trajectory at 300... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-20-2008, 10:12 PM	#3
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,115 Blog Entries: 6	Really, It drops that much? wow! I think I'll get a micrometer sight for it so I can shoot it at 50 yards with out having to aim really low. Thanks moose! __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

04-20-2008, 10:24 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,401 Images: 2	At a 100 Yard zero with a 150 gr Bullet at 2700 FPS. Muzzle Velocity the bullet will drop 15.9 inches at 300 yards.... Now you know why you Miss the target !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-20-2008, 10:33 PM	#5
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,115 Blog Entries: 6	Well when in doubt aim low... Thank for the details moose. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

04-20-2008, 11:46 PM	#6
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 539 Images: 10	A foot high at 50 yards is way too high. Taking you literally, a bullet hitting 5-6" high at 100yds would be on for 300. If you are 12" high at 50yds, you will be nearly 2 feet high at 100 yds, and closer to a 600 yd zero.

04-21-2008, 12:07 AM	#7
sell33 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,320	my enfield No. 4 mk. 1 has adjustable flip up rear sights...not sure what they are called (micrometer maybe), but marked 200m out to 1000m. it also shoots high at 100, i thought most military rifles were sighted in high. Of cousre i was using hte sight flipped up, maybe that is only meant for longer range so starting at 200 it may be closer to on target??

04-21-2008, 07:18 AM	#8
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,115 Blog Entries: 6	Now that I look at it closer it is marked 300 and 600 and I think I might of been using the 600 meter setting. I must of not of looked at the stampings very well when I originally posted. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

04-21-2008, 07:31 AM	#9
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Blog Entries: 5	The sights on my no1mk3 are different.But they only drop down to 200yards on the numbers.But it will go down further to like 100yards unmarked.And it has always shot high.I was told awhile ago that most of those rifles were supposed to shoot like that.When you aimed at the human form you aim for the middle of body and the bullet will hit in the chest.

04-21-2008, 09:44 AM	#10
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 315	Hitting high is normal at close ranges . It's something the shooter has to learn about his rifle(s) . for example... When I'm sighting in on a Whitetail and say aprox 75yd give or take , my point of aim is the bottom of his chest , putting that pill right on his heart thats about 6" higher. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg

04-21-2008, 01:59 PM	#11
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,483 Images: 34	I have always had good results when shooting mil rifles at 100 yds sighting the 10 ring like a pumpkin on a stump. In other words you line up the top of your front sight at the bottom of the ten ring. You ajust from there until you bullseye. Works for me. Only problems is with the older rifles like 95 Mausers when they are sighted for longer distances. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!