what grade does your state get - Page 2

GlockMeister · 04-25-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

is the loop hole private sales??
and man i am soo glad we dont have waiting periods here! that would frustrate the hell out of me!

I don't know but I doubt it. By law, we have to keep a record and keep it for 10 years. It use to be that way anyhow. I haven't looked. I think it may now be, or they're trying to stop private sales? Yes it is a pain to have to wait. And I say this as to why. It was initially to prevent someone from getting pissed off and running down to the gun store, buying a gun and going back in the heat of the moment and killing someone. Now it;s to do a background check and cool off.

But if you already have a gun or guns, the cooling off thing is kind of mute. I mean, if you're pissed and feel the need to lose it and go kill someone, you're not going to go buy a new one and wait for it. Obviously you can just go home. So in the end, it comes down to common sense and having ethics,morals and a conscience.

Then there's the back ground check. If you've had one before, what good does another one do or one do every time you buy a gun do. I mean, if you own a gun, and they have you as having a FOID card, Illinois I'm speaking of, and you get arrested or something raises a flag , why then don't they see you're a gun owner and take it from there? I mean most gun owners, my self most definately, avoid doing anything that would jeopardize losing them and or my rights. It keeps me out of trouble.

So yea, it's a pain but it does have it's purpose. I just think once you're approved, should approve you until or unless you YOURSELF screw it up.

If you go to the NRA's website and check Illinois' current proposed gun control laws up for vote, they're really trying to screw us. And with all the recent shootings, which I might add has/had nothing to do with law-abiding responsible registered gun owners, the odds are greater now some will pass.

It really peeves me off. They know dam well all this is/was drug and gang related and retaliation motivated. Yet we'll be the ones to suffer and get punished and the killings may die down or lessen, but they'll never stop.

They'll, (gang bangers/criminals) will have.still get and still be able to get guns to use. It won't affect them. There's already a ban from owning a handgun in the city of Chicago now, and it hasn't helped one bit. They, those using guns for crime and other are still using and getting them.

All it/they will do is disarm the honest and law-abiding. And I'll move before I let that happen. I'll take a loss on my home before I let that happen.

jimkim · 04-25-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven©

God bless America.

EEEEK I thought mine just moved EEEEK. How can you tell when your gun is plotting to murder someone? And God bless you for warning me.

Midas · 04-25-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jimkim

EEEEK I thought mine just moved EEEEK. How can you tell when your gun is plotting to murder someone? And God bless you for warning me.

You gotta understand, jim, all guns are inherently evil, and they have been known to possess people, and take over their minds, which is the cause of school and workplace shootings

never mind that the individuals in question might be a little unstable to begin with.

squirrelbaster · 04-25-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Midas

6 points here in Arkansas, I guess we're just a buncha uncivilized heathens

wish I was a heathen....

Legba · 04-25-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

ALASKA...Score is 4 !!! We win !
Rich

Dammit!!! Cali scores a 79. Thank god I got out of that state.

Mooseman684 · 04-25-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimkim

Is there a chart we can get thet shows. The violent crimes ranking by state. Then we can compare them side by side. Oh oops someone will call me a wingnut.

Here is 2004 Stats...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004912.html

squirrelbaster · 04-25-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Legba

Dammit!!! Cali scores a 79. Thank god I got out of that state.

79!? i dont evenwant to visit cali anymore then!

Col. Angus · 04-25-2008, 02:59 PM

Double Woots for Tennessee....a whopping 7.....yayyyy me. Course I am an ex-New Yorker, so now I have to face the music from that direction.

Damn....Hillary, you silly wench....New York got a 51. Damnit!!!

Legba · 04-25-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Here is 2004 Stats...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004912.html

Love the numbers on D.C Looks like the weapons ban there is doing good for the criminals.

MrsS · 04-25-2008, 03:23 PM

7 for Tennessee.,

Coeloptera · 04-25-2008, 03:33 PM

11 here in Nevada...not bad, not bad...firmly in the "Gunshine State" group.

- Coeloptera

tlarkin · 04-25-2008, 03:39 PM

MISSOURI
Score: 4 out of 100 points
State Ranking: T-44 out of 50 state

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

Actually that website is out of date, there is no longer a waiting period in MO. I bought two guns in MO and walked out that day with the gun.

DANA · 04-25-2008, 04:03 PM

Vermont 9

DANA

TACAV · 04-25-2008, 04:09 PM

MARYLAND
Score: 53 out of 100 points

Strength of Gun laws
State Ranking: 5 out of 50 states

boo

Midas · 04-25-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

wish I was a heathen....

Don't worry, least you don't live in California!

ghost_raven · 04-25-2008, 04:14 PM

New Mexico: 6/100... woo-hoo!

neophyte · 04-25-2008, 04:52 PM

Major Blunder by the "neophyte" NC 13 20 out of 100 points

Cyrano · 04-25-2008, 06:27 PM

Ney York gets 51 out of 100 and ranks 6th in oppressive gun laws. So far on the thread, only those living in Maryland and California are worse off than us poor citizens of the State of New York. Except for the poor bastards living in New York City - they're even worse off than the rest of us!

sell33 · 04-25-2008, 07:12 PM

Wow f--- the brady campaign i hate gun control freaks they are so ignorant.
i think Ohio was a 9 i forget lol

squirrelbaster · 04-25-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sell33

Wow f--- the brady campaign i hate gun control freaks they are so ignorant.
i think Ohio was a 9 i forget lol

^i wish! nah we got a 13!

04-25-2008, 02:59 PM	#28
Col. Angus Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sandy beaches and distant reaches. Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0)	Double Woots for Tennessee....a whopping 7.....yayyyy me. Course I am an ex-New Yorker, so now I have to face the music from that direction. Damn....Hillary, you silly wench....New York got a 51. Damnit!!! Last edited by Col. Angus; 04-25-2008 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-25-2008, 03:23 PM	#30
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Originally from the 26th state of the union; now living in the 16th. Posts: 1,105 Trader Rating: (0)	7 for Tennessee., __________________ Gun Control...is the ability to hit your target.

04-25-2008, 04:14 PM	#36
ghost_raven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0)	New Mexico: 6/100... woo-hoo! __________________ The First Amendment defines America, the Second Amendment defends it.

04-25-2008, 04:52 PM	#37
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,198 Trader Rating: (0)	Blunder Major Blunder by the "neophyte" NC 13 20 out of 100 points __________________ Craig By the standards of most

04-25-2008, 03:33 PM	#31
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,546 Trader Rating: (0)	11 here in Nevada...not bad, not bad...firmly in the "Gunshine State" group. - Coeloptera

04-25-2008, 03:39 PM	#32
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,537 Trader Rating: (0)	MISSOURI Score: 4 out of 100 points State Ranking: T-44 out of 50 state Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence Actually that website is out of date, there is no longer a waiting period in MO. I bought two guns in MO and walked out that day with the gun.

04-25-2008, 04:03 PM	#33
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (0)	Vermont 9 DANA

04-25-2008, 04:09 PM	#34
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 538 Trader Rating: (0)	MARYLAND Score: 53 out of 100 points Strength of Gun laws State Ranking: 5 out of 50 states boo

04-25-2008, 06:27 PM	#38
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,955 Trader Rating: (0)	Ney York gets 51 out of 100 and ranks 6th in oppressive gun laws. So far on the thread, only those living in Maryland and California are worse off than us poor citizens of the State of New York. Except for the poor bastards living in New York City - they're even worse off than the rest of us!

04-25-2008, 07:12 PM	#39
sell33 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,041 Trader Rating: (0)	Wow f--- the brady campaign i hate gun control freaks they are so ignorant. i think Ohio was a 9 i forget lol