Body Armor

privateer · 04-25-2008, 10:20 PM

If This is already a thread , Sorry I missed it.. In my go bag and in my truck I have personal body armor vests , 1 is rated at 3a with inserts that says it will protect against 7.62x39 (the evil AK round) I'm not looking forward to testing that theory. and the other is soft concealed 2A armor not good for anything larger than a 357. I had an old 80's era flack vest that I took to the range and punched holes thru and thru with 9mm (ball ammo) So if you have one in your kit, give it to your mother in-law . does anybody know what the level of protection increas would be if you took two (2) level 2A vests and stacked them inside one carrier ?

Ferroflame · 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM

Lets assume you have two pieces of paper, and a .22 Short.

=] Probably kinda like that.

ArkansasHunter · 04-25-2008, 11:30 PM

I have a bullet proff vest. Though I don't think I'll ever need it, I've got one.

I don't know if you should carry it in your truck because if your ever pulled over and searched it might cause you to have to answear some un-wanted questions.

ezearln · 04-25-2008, 11:44 PM

No having body armor won't necessarily cause unwanted questions, but having body armor, 200 lbs of ammonium nitrate, blasting caps and a manifesto in your car or truck might! LOL

ArkansasHunter · 04-25-2008, 11:49 PM

Yep that would sure raise some eye brows LOL

SwedeSteve · 04-26-2008, 04:15 AM

privateer- I think your BA is sufficient.

damage855 · 04-27-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

privateer- I think your BA is sufficient.

+1 I have a simulair set up of body armour will never need it for anything other than work but hey best to have it and not need it than the other way around.

tlarkin · 04-27-2008, 01:30 PM

A 7.62 will go through a car door, no body armor won't protect against that type of round.

squirrelbaster · 04-27-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

A 7.62 will go through a car door, no body armor won't protect against that type of round.

7.62xwhat? sur it wont stop 7.62x54r but it might stop 7.62x25 and i do beleave there is BA out there made to stop a 7.62x39. car doors are just sheet metal there not designed to stop bullets, BA is!

ander254 · 04-27-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

7.62xwhat? sur it wont stop 7.62x54r but it might stop 7.62x25 and i do beleave there is BA out there made to stop a 7.62x39. car doors are just sheet metal there not designed to stop bullets, BA is!

If it did stop it, I bet you'll be laying on your back wishing it hadn't. I can't imagine how much that would hurt taking one in the chest.

squirrelbaster · 04-27-2008, 02:15 PM

no kidding! that would leave one heck of a bruise im sure....but it beats dieing!

mitch_mckee · 04-27-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

A 7.62 will go through a car door, no body armor won't protect against that type of round.

The Ballistic plating that adds onto the vests will protect against military .30 caliber including .30-06 AP, .308 FMJ, .223, and 7.62 x 39.

Heavy, though and I'd not want to test it.

ezearln · 04-27-2008, 02:34 PM

There are several different types of ballistic trauma plate inserts available for Body Armor. depending on the manufactuer they provide protection to the vital organ areas from military class rifle ammunition, But rest assured it still hurts and you can still die as a result of the shock of repeated multiple impacts.

damage855 · 04-27-2008, 09:19 PM

I have several vest the one I keep in the trunk of my squad car will stop up to 30-06 dont wont to test it but like I said it is better to have that than nothing. and yes it is very heavy the whole thing wieghs about 30lbs.

YugoM59/66 · 04-27-2008, 09:51 PM

The sappy plates we're issued are SUPPOSED to stop three 7.62x39 rounds. But I've seen them crack after one. and if i can remember right the guy had about 3 or 4 broken ribs. he was down for the count, but he is still alive. That's all that matters. I dont know if you have the same ones the Marine Corps uses but yes it SHOULD stop an AK round cause there so big and slow. Now it most likely will not stop a 5.56 or .223. The velocity is way to high and the round is smaller. It's easier to puncture skin with a tiny needle than a bigger one. less surface area, same concept. Now I am not positive but that's what my old Gunny told me

leomort · 05-05-2008, 12:53 PM

Dumb question, but where do you buy "body armor"? Do you need a special license or something? Thanks for the feedback.

Leo

ArkansasHunter · 05-05-2008, 01:02 PM

My vest which is used has a pocket for the plate. When my son was a dispatcher at our Sheriffs dept. they had a house cleaning and throwing away stuff.
My son retrieved it from the trash and it fits me perfectly.

Some times if your shot in the chest with the plate and doesn't penetrate, it can cause your heart to stop and you'll die.
I for got what it's called when that happens.

andrew cochran · 05-05-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by leomort

Dumb question, but where do you buy "body armor"? Do you need a special license or something? Thanks for the feedback.

Leo

I wanna know too.

just_a_car · 05-05-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Some times if your shot in the chest with the plate and doesn't penetrate, it can cause your heart to stop and you'll die.
I for got what it's called when that happens.

Fibrillation.

Which is why the thing that starts your heart again with a jolt of electricity is called a 'defibrillator'.

mitch_mckee · 05-05-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew cochran

I wanna know too.

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Body Armor

04-25-2008, 10:20 PM	#1
privateer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Anchorage , Alaska Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0)	Body Armor If This is already a thread , Sorry I missed it.. In my go bag and in my truck I have personal body armor vests , 1 is rated at 3a with inserts that says it will protect against 7.62x39 (the evil AK round) I'm not looking forward to testing that theory. and the other is soft concealed 2A armor not good for anything larger than a 357. I had an old 80's era flack vest that I took to the range and punched holes thru and thru with 9mm (ball ammo) So if you have one in your kit, give it to your mother in-law . does anybody know what the level of protection increas would be if you took two (2) level 2A vests and stacked them inside one carrier ?

04-25-2008, 11:44 PM	#4
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	No having body armor won't necessarily cause unwanted questions, but having body armor, 200 lbs of ammonium nitrate, blasting caps and a manifesto in your car or truck might! LOL __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

04-26-2008, 04:15 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	privateer- I think your BA is sufficient. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-27-2008, 02:15 PM	#11
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,069 Trader Rating: (0)	no kidding! that would leave one heck of a bruise im sure....but it beats dieing! __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-27-2008, 02:34 PM	#13
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	There are several different types of ballistic trauma plate inserts available for Body Armor. depending on the manufactuer they provide protection to the vital organ areas from military class rifle ammunition, But rest assured it still hurts and you can still die as a result of the shock of repeated multiple impacts. __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

04-25-2008, 11:24 PM	#2
Ferroflame Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0)	Lets assume you have two pieces of paper, and a .22 Short. =] Probably kinda like that.

04-25-2008, 11:30 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a bullet proff vest. Though I don't think I'll ever need it, I've got one. I don't know if you should carry it in your truck because if your ever pulled over and searched it might cause you to have to answear some un-wanted questions.

04-25-2008, 11:49 PM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	Yep that would sure raise some eye brows LOL

04-27-2008, 01:30 PM	#8
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,537 Trader Rating: (0)	A 7.62 will go through a car door, no body armor won't protect against that type of round.

04-27-2008, 09:19 PM	#14
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (0)	I have several vest the one I keep in the trunk of my squad car will stop up to 30-06 dont wont to test it but like I said it is better to have that than nothing. and yes it is very heavy the whole thing wieghs about 30lbs. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

04-27-2008, 09:51 PM	#15
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0)	The sappy plates we're issued are SUPPOSED to stop three 7.62x39 rounds. But I've seen them crack after one. and if i can remember right the guy had about 3 or 4 broken ribs. he was down for the count, but he is still alive. That's all that matters. I dont know if you have the same ones the Marine Corps uses but yes it SHOULD stop an AK round cause there so big and slow. Now it most likely will not stop a 5.56 or .223. The velocity is way to high and the round is smaller. It's easier to puncture skin with a tiny needle than a bigger one. less surface area, same concept. Now I am not positive but that's what my old Gunny told me __________________ "Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." Ned Dolan Last edited by YugoM59/66; 04-27-2008 at 09:54 PM.

05-05-2008, 12:53 PM	#16
leomort Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0)	Dumb question, but where do you buy "body armor"? Do you need a special license or something? Thanks for the feedback. Leo

05-05-2008, 01:02 PM	#17
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	My vest which is used has a pocket for the plate. When my son was a dispatcher at our Sheriffs dept. they had a house cleaning and throwing away stuff. My son retrieved it from the trash and it fits me perfectly. Some times if your shot in the chest with the plate and doesn't penetrate, it can cause your heart to stop and you'll die. I for got what it's called when that happens.