WooHoo! C&R Happy Dance

tnjeff · 04-28-2008, 04:24 PM

Got my C&R today. Took 1 month almost exactly. Now if that check would just show up. Let's see, M44 or M38? J&G sales or SOG?
Serious question: Do you guys see any difference in the quality of either the M44s or M38s? Is one "better" than the other? I guess I'm thinking of the overall condition and the condition of the bore.
Thanks

GlockMeister · 04-28-2008, 04:30 PM

Just buy one of each and remember to get a 91/30 as well.

Oh and congrats on the C&R...

BaserRonin · 04-28-2008, 04:34 PM

That one's hard to judge really, both saw action somewhere. I don't know if accuracy is any different from the 38 to the 44. I don't shoot well enough to have noticed between my 2 anyway. The wood I have seen has been comparable on both, with the rare exceptions both ways.

I saw a nice 38 at the show this weekend with near perfect rifling, no counterboring, a severely eroded bolt-face, beautiful wood, no matching numbers, and stampings done with broken tools. It would probably make a great shooter, but not really collectible.

As far as "better" goes, the 44 comes with an attached bayonet. That irritates the Brady's and their followers...

tnjeff · 04-28-2008, 04:46 PM

Well, anything that will irritate the Bradys... Actually I already have a 91/30 which I dearly love. All stamped matching, not counterbored. Reason I asked about condition is, I was looking at another forum and apparently people have been getting a hold of some Yugo Mausers with really good bores. I want to stick with the Mosins for awhile because I like the idea of having several guns that shoot the same (cheap) ammo. I just wondered if any particular model that are "in the pipeline" now seemed better than the other. Anyway, I really like the Mosins. Dirt cheap, dirt simple, and a blast to shoot.

marion57 · 04-28-2008, 06:53 PM

tmjeff
I have both and really cant see much difference in the way they shoot .. I like the m44 a we bit better than the m 38 it holds pattern a tiny bit better and I like the feel of it better but its just me and its a personal thing ..I happen to be a bit partial to my m44 as it was my first !

ohhh congrats on the CR and I hope you use it to get your new rifle

neophyte · 04-28-2008, 06:59 PM

tnjeff: Sir;congratulation; dadgumit; I've been waiting since March 3rd; dadgumit.
Having already pick out a couple 91/30, M44; bought bullets yesterday; and no "ticket" dadgumit and not guns; dadgumit.

Sins-of-Mosin · 04-28-2008, 07:48 PM

I prefer the m44 myself. If I was hunting then I'd probably use the 91/30.

tnjeff · 04-28-2008, 09:27 PM

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congrats on the CR and I hope you use it to get your new rifle

Thanks Marion. I think I will. Saw an M44 in a pawn shop the other day. and was tempted to make an offer. I didn't get a chance to look at it too closely (my son was looking for a used amp) but it was a clean '45 Ishevsk. They had it marked 169.00. Don't know what they might have taken for it. I want to try the mail order deals though.

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dadgumit; I've been waiting since March 3rd; dadgumit.

Hope you get it soon neo.

As usual, thanks for the opinions guys.

Amarksman · 04-28-2008, 09:43 PM

so what is this c&r that you speak of?

SwedeSteve · 04-28-2008, 10:32 PM

tnjeff- Congrats my brother! You are doomed!
Amarksman- Curio and Relic License. Have it shipped to your house without a transfer fee. Costs $30 for 3 years! Get one!

ArkansasHunter · 04-28-2008, 10:35 PM

tnjeff congrats feller on your C&R !!!

billy · 04-28-2008, 10:40 PM

i made my 30 bucks back the 1st time i bought something and got a dealers discount.i dont buy guns with it .
i just save money on everything else!

in 2 years i used my c&r once to buy a gun.

Full MeTal Jack · 04-28-2008, 10:54 PM

Dittos Jeff!
Happy collecting. The Swiss K-31 is also or can be a great shooter. Ammo little more costly.
Congrats on the 03 license.

SwedeSteve · 04-29-2008, 02:02 AM

Use your C&R to buy powder! Its about to go bye-bye!

GlockMeister · 04-29-2008, 02:22 AM

What do you mean about to go bye bye swede?

marion57 · 04-29-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Amarksman

so what is this c&r that you speak of?

here is a old site I keep for infomation purpose's ..ignore the adds there not current and is old site , however info on CR is current
http://www.cruffler.com/becomingcruffler.html

Geo M44 · 04-29-2008, 08:22 AM

Another happy C&R owner.

As far as the debate... M39 to start. Arguably the best shooter in the MN family. For a lower cost... 1946-1948 M44. The bores are generally very nice, but you may have to adjust the sights if you don't want to shoot with the bayo extened. Curiously enough I have 4 (one in a camo stock).

tnjeff · 04-29-2008, 09:53 PM

Yep, I'm doomed alright. Got all my envelopes made out and ready to mail.

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Use your C&R to buy powder! Its about to go bye-bye!

Swede, don't tell me ammo is about to become scarce!

marion57 · 04-30-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tnjeff

Yep, I'm doomed alright. Got all my envelopes made out and ready to mail.

Swede, don't tell me ammo is about to become scarce!

be careful about how you sign those some dealers require you sign in red ink like century!
I put my original on the computer unsigned so can make more to send out

SwedeSteve · 04-30-2008, 01:57 PM

A lot of dealers like red ink. Then there's no doubt about it being an original signature. But this makes me wonder why some will accept a faxed one!

04-28-2008, 04:24 PM	#1
tnjeff Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	WooHoo! C&R Happy Dance Got my C&R today. Took 1 month almost exactly. Now if that check would just show up. Let's see, M44 or M38? J&G sales or SOG? Serious question: Do you guys see any difference in the quality of either the M44s or M38s? Is one "better" than the other? I guess I'm thinking of the overall condition and the condition of the bore. Thanks

04-28-2008, 04:30 PM	#2
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,934 Trader Rating: (0)	Just buy one of each and remember to get a 91/30 as well. Oh and congrats on the C&R... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-28-2008, 04:34 PM	#3
BaserRonin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a Dark Cubicle Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0)	That one's hard to judge really, both saw action somewhere. I don't know if accuracy is any different from the 38 to the 44. I don't shoot well enough to have noticed between my 2 anyway. The wood I have seen has been comparable on both, with the rare exceptions both ways. I saw a nice 38 at the show this weekend with near perfect rifling, no counterboring, a severely eroded bolt-face, beautiful wood, no matching numbers, and stampings done with broken tools. It would probably make a great shooter, but not really collectible. As far as "better" goes, the 44 comes with an attached bayonet. That irritates the Brady's and their followers... __________________ "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge

04-28-2008, 06:53 PM	#5
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,690 Trader Rating: (0)	tmjeff I have both and really cant see much difference in the way they shoot .. I like the m44 a we bit better than the m 38 it holds pattern a tiny bit better and I like the feel of it better but its just me and its a personal thing ..I happen to be a bit partial to my m44 as it was my first ! ohhh congrats on the CR and I hope you use it to get your new rifle __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

04-28-2008, 06:59 PM	#6
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,198 Trader Rating: (0)	dadgumit tnjeff: Sir;congratulation; dadgumit; I've been waiting since March 3rd; dadgumit. Having already pick out a couple 91/30, M44; bought bullets yesterday; and no "ticket" dadgumit and not guns; dadgumit. __________________ Craig By the standards of most

04-28-2008, 04:46 PM	#4
tnjeff Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, anything that will irritate the Bradys... Actually I already have a 91/30 which I dearly love. All stamped matching, not counterbored. Reason I asked about condition is, I was looking at another forum and apparently people have been getting a hold of some Yugo Mausers with really good bores. I want to stick with the Mosins for awhile because I like the idea of having several guns that shoot the same (cheap) ammo. I just wondered if any particular model that are "in the pipeline" now seemed better than the other. Anyway, I really like the Mosins. Dirt cheap, dirt simple, and a blast to shoot.

04-28-2008, 07:48 PM	#7
Sins-of-Mosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IL Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0)	I prefer the m44 myself. If I was hunting then I'd probably use the 91/30. __________________ Leave me alone I am not an angel yet. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...13/themets.png

04-28-2008, 09:43 PM	#9
Amarksman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: behind you Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0)	so what is this c&r that you speak of? __________________ ^^^^^Advocate for the gun rights of MONKEYS Join my group - Monkey Gun Rights!

04-28-2008, 10:32 PM	#10
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	tnjeff- Congrats my brother! You are doomed! Amarksman- Curio and Relic License. Have it shipped to your house without a transfer fee. Costs $30 for 3 years! Get one! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-28-2008, 10:35 PM	#11
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	tnjeff congrats feller on your C&R !!!

04-28-2008, 10:40 PM	#12
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	i made my 30 bucks back the 1st time i bought something and got a dealers discount.i dont buy guns with it . i just save money on everything else! in 2 years i used my c&r once to buy a gun. __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya! Last edited by billy; 04-28-2008 at 10:41 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-28-2008, 10:54 PM	#13
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,416 Trader Rating: (0)	Dittos Jeff! Happy collecting. The Swiss K-31 is also or can be a great shooter. Ammo little more costly. Congrats on the 03 license. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

04-29-2008, 02:02 AM	#14
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	Use your C&R to buy powder! Its about to go bye-bye! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-29-2008, 02:22 AM	#15
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,934 Trader Rating: (0)	What do you mean about to go bye bye swede? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-29-2008, 08:22 AM	#17
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,020 Trader Rating: (0)	Another happy C&R owner. As far as the debate... M39 to start. Arguably the best shooter in the MN family. For a lower cost... 1946-1948 M44. The bores are generally very nice, but you may have to adjust the sights if you don't want to shoot with the bayo extened. Curiously enough I have 4 (one in a camo stock). __________________ Remember when seconds count... the police are only minutes away.

04-30-2008, 01:57 PM	#20
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	A lot of dealers like red ink. Then there's no doubt about it being an original signature. But this makes me wonder why some will accept a faxed one! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers