A rifle that shoots sub moa with 7.62 x 39?

meatloaf · 04-30-2008, 11:32 PM

I want a rifle chamberd is 7.62 x 39 that shoots sub moa (ill even settle for 1 moa) Does such a rifle exist? Anymake or model bolt or semi.

sell33 · 04-30-2008, 11:33 PM

Is that even possible?????? lol

billy · 04-30-2008, 11:41 PM

some folks have had good luck reloading for sks's
but i dont think it's possible with bulk ammo.

toolman · 04-30-2008, 11:45 PM

My Chi-Com SKS used to shoot MOA with anything I could stuff in it, but I traded it off like a dumba**! I've heard some really good things about the bolt-action CZ's as well.

Big Tool · 05-01-2008, 12:36 AM

You can get a 7.62x39 upper for the ar-15 platform. I'm sure it will shoot MOA or better.

You may be able to get a saiga to shoot moa with a better trigger and match ammo.

nathangdad · 05-01-2008, 02:42 AM

. . . . you are most likely venturing into the area of having a
custom barrel on a bolt action. Also, you will be into
the area of handloading to a precise level.

First, search the web for custom barrel builders then open up
a discussion on actions, prices, and delivery times. Next you will need
the proper gunsmith to mate the barrel and the action plus do some
stockwork on the stock designed for the action.

What you want can be done but it will not be off the shelf.

just_a_car · 05-01-2008, 02:47 AM

Here ya go, custom made rifle, but I think they make bolt actions similar to it in that round: VC HomePage

Personally, I want to try to get some of those subsonic rounds loaded up and try 'em in my AES-10. I realize there will be noise from the gas piston vent, but I'm thinking I could temporarily put a hose clamp around there to seal them off while shooting the subsonic rounds.

DWARREN123 · 05-01-2008, 09:54 AM

The 7.62X39mm round is not a target round. It is a good round but MOA, maybe out of a high dollar gun.

squirrelbaster · 05-01-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Tool

You can get a 7.62x39 upper for the ar-15 platform. I'm sure it will shoot MOA or better.

You may be able to get a saiga to shoot moa with a better trigger and match ammo.

+1 what he said

Muddog · 05-01-2008, 10:23 PM

You could get a CZ Carbine and handload, not much for bullet variety though

meatloaf · 05-01-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddog

You could get a CZ Carbine and handload, not much for bullet variety though

yeah the cz looks sweet.

mitch_mckee · 05-01-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf

I want a rifle chamberd is 7.62 x 39 that shoots sub moa (ill even settle for 1 moa) Does such a rifle exist? Anymake or model bolt or semi.

This one ought to shoot pretty well WITH good ammo, not junque.

CZ 527 Carbine

SwedeSteve · 05-02-2008, 04:22 AM

Hey mitch- The link didn't work for me.

Zephri · 05-02-2008, 04:41 AM

it's not the link it's their website. They must be having problems.

http://www.cz-usa.com/

samuel · 05-02-2008, 04:45 AM

This can be done and usually accomplished by using a custom barrel in .308 bore dia.. The selection of match grade bullets is great .in .308 bore,compared to the standard .311.Usually the twist runs 1in12",but shorter barrels and hotter powder in 1in10" twist is definitly a consideration if using bolt action that will handle the higher pressures. sam.

toolman · 05-02-2008, 07:42 AM

Hornady builds a V-Max bullet specifically for the '39, but the only place I've seen them was Grafs and Cabelas.

nighthawk80 · 05-02-2008, 10:15 AM

I have heard great things about the CZ carbine. I've handled but never shot one. If I had the money, I'd buy one.
You can always check out an Thompson Encore or possibly and H&R.

The link works for me.

alaskamonte · 05-02-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

some folks have had good luck reloading for sks's
but i dont think it's possible with bulk ammo.

Several platforms will do the trick BUT quality ammo is the key, the bulk ammo is crap accuracy wise.

Muddog · 05-02-2008, 10:51 PM

You need to pay attention to bore dia though, apparently ruger chambered the 39 but made the bore a .308 dia whish isn't what most cheap commie bulk is. The good people at CZ informed me the 527 has the standard SKS AK type rifle bore dia of .311. Of course this means homebrewing.

stitchclimber · 05-05-2008, 12:38 PM

Would it be worth it to pick up an AR chambered for 7.62x39?

04-30-2008, 11:32 PM	#1
meatloaf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lakewood CO Posts: 863 Trader Rating: (0)	A rifle that shoots sub moa with 7.62 x 39? I want a rifle chamberd is 7.62 x 39 that shoots sub moa (ill even settle for 1 moa) Does such a rifle exist? Anymake or model bolt or semi.

04-30-2008, 11:41 PM	#3
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	some folks have had good luck reloading for sks's but i dont think it's possible with bulk ammo. __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

04-30-2008, 11:45 PM	#4
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,361 Trader Rating: (0)	My Chi-Com SKS used to shoot MOA with anything I could stuff in it, but I traded it off like a dumba**! I've heard some really good things about the bolt-action CZ's as well. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

05-01-2008, 02:42 AM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,259 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, . . . . . . . . you are most likely venturing into the area of having a custom barrel on a bolt action. Also, you will be into the area of handloading to a precise level. First, search the web for custom barrel builders then open up a discussion on actions, prices, and delivery times. Next you will need the proper gunsmith to mate the barrel and the action plus do some stockwork on the stock designed for the action. What you want can be done but it will not be off the shelf.

05-01-2008, 02:47 AM	#7
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,414 Trader Rating: (0)	Here ya go, custom made rifle, but I think they make bolt actions similar to it in that round: VC HomePage Personally, I want to try to get some of those subsonic rounds loaded up and try 'em in my AES-10. I realize there will be noise from the gas piston vent, but I'm thinking I could temporarily put a hose clamp around there to seal them off while shooting the subsonic rounds. __________________

04-30-2008, 11:33 PM	#2
sell33 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,042 Trader Rating: (0)	Is that even possible?????? lol

05-01-2008, 12:36 AM	#5
Big Tool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MS Posts: 597 Trader Rating: (0)	You can get a 7.62x39 upper for the ar-15 platform. I'm sure it will shoot MOA or better. You may be able to get a saiga to shoot moa with a better trigger and match ammo.

05-01-2008, 09:54 AM	#8
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 750 Trader Rating: (0)	The 7.62X39mm round is not a target round. It is a good round but MOA, maybe out of a high dollar gun. __________________ Have a nice day!

05-01-2008, 10:23 PM	#10
Muddog Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0)	You could get a CZ Carbine and handload, not much for bullet variety though

05-02-2008, 04:22 AM	#13
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,136 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey mitch- The link didn't work for me. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-02-2008, 04:41 AM	#14
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,034 Trader Rating: (1)	it's not the link it's their website. They must be having problems. http://www.cz-usa.com/ __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

05-02-2008, 04:45 AM	#15
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,054 Trader Rating: (0)	This can be done and usually accomplished by using a custom barrel in .308 bore dia.. The selection of match grade bullets is great .in .308 bore,compared to the standard .311.Usually the twist runs 1in12",but shorter barrels and hotter powder in 1in10" twist is definitly a consideration if using bolt action that will handle the higher pressures. sam.

05-02-2008, 07:42 AM	#16
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,361 Trader Rating: (0)	Hornady builds a V-Max bullet specifically for the '39, but the only place I've seen them was Grafs and Cabelas. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

05-02-2008, 10:15 AM	#17
nighthawk80 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Just south of Central Indiana Posts: 399 Trader Rating: (0)	I have heard great things about the CZ carbine. I've handled but never shot one. If I had the money, I'd buy one. You can always check out an Thompson Encore or possibly and H&R. The link works for me.

05-02-2008, 10:51 PM	#19
Muddog Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0)	You need to pay attention to bore dia though, apparently ruger chambered the 39 but made the bore a .308 dia whish isn't what most cheap commie bulk is. The good people at CZ informed me the 527 has the standard SKS AK type rifle bore dia of .311. Of course this means homebrewing.

05-05-2008, 12:38 PM	#20
stitchclimber Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The great northwest Posts: 928 Trader Rating: (0)	Would it be worth it to pick up an AR chambered for 7.62x39? __________________ turning up the radio, got just enough religion and a half tank of gas...