05-03-2008, 05:09 AM
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| If I had only one choice,as long as I had unlimited access to multiple loads from birdshot to slugs,I would pick the .12ga.shotgun which is a rifle when using slugs for all intents and purposes.The reason is it can take game from the smallest to the largest and still have something to eat. sam. |
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05-03-2008, 08:55 AM
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| Pretty interesting question.... I'd likely choose the '06 with loads available from 125gr for antelope or smallish deer (shoots on a par trajectory-wise with a .243 100gr load). Move up to a 165gr for larger deer and long range shooting; 180gr premium bullets for elk moose and bear and finally premium 200gr or the old time 220gr for the biggest game. My second choice would be 338/06 with bullets from 160-250grains. I actually just might have to flip a coin, should the time ever come. |
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05-03-2008, 09:14 AM
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05-03-2008, 09:32 AM
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| .375 H@H
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05-03-2008, 09:46 AM
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| As you qualified it to N.A. hunting, I cannot choose just 1, but could limit it to 2. 338 Win. Mag. or 35 BOS. I would be quite confident hunting anything, close or long distance with either. Both shoot good 250 grain bullets, both shoot plenty flat enough. Best,
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05-03-2008, 10:10 AM
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| Like Jim Kim my choice at this time would be a Marlin 45-70. I have never shot the 300 Win. Mag. How does the 300 Win. Mag. recoil compare to the 45-70 with light to med. factory loads?
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05-03-2008, 10:34 AM
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There is about 2lbs of difference between the two with the .300 having more recoil. 23lbs vs 25lbs. Add a muzzle brake and turn them into Loud Barking Teddybears. Last edited by Rattle'em up; 05-03-2008 at 10:42 AM. | |
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05-03-2008, 10:53 AM
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| toss up between the 300 or 06??? |
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05-03-2008, 12:31 PM
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| Senior Member  | 30-06 will handle anything in North America and you can find ammo anywhere.
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05-03-2008, 01:33 PM
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05-03-2008, 01:48 PM
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| Thisquestion comes up all the time. I don't see ever being limited to just one gun in one caliber but I guess if I were the .375 H&H. It shoots as flat as a .30-o6 and can kill anything in North America+. I reload so can make it as hot or light as I want to. |
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05-03-2008, 01:58 PM
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05-03-2008, 02:05 PM
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| A .22 can kill anything in North America if the shot is placed right. What is wrong with .308? |
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05-03-2008, 02:47 PM
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| 7mm would be my preference. The recoil is manageable and it is flat shooting, try hitting a desert bighorn with anything that isn't flat shooting.  |
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05-03-2008, 02:49 PM
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| Some time in the late 80s a popular rifle magazine had a write up on the most popular N. American Cartridge. Naturally the 30-06 was first, but there was a three way tie on the second choice 338, 340Wby and 7mm Rem mag. The third was 280 Rem followed by the 270Win, and the 300Win and 300Wby were tied for 5th. Last edited by Rattle'em up; 05-03-2008 at 02:55 PM. |
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05-03-2008, 02:52 PM
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05-03-2008, 03:11 PM
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Most popular does not mean the best suited for all animals or situations. Many cartridges are capable of killing game, but may not be suitable to hunt game with. The unwritten laws that the animals be dispatched as swiftly as possible, must be adhered to and must be followed. If we do not follow them by choice, we will be required to follow regulations dictated by others. The Anti's have all the $ they need to fight us in court (insert ACLU here). There is no popular vote entertained in a court of law, so we can't just 'out vote them'. They have smartened up. They don't like hunting, and have figured out the public is apathetic when it comes to voting, so they started fighting in court. And winning. Don't think so . . . . . . . . . . . . ask Californian's that can no longer use lead bullets, or some of the other states where the hunting seasons were delayed/postponed/or cancelled, e.g. Mt. Lion, Black Bear, Dove etc. Personally, I regard hunting with a cartridge that is not capable of taking a ___________ under all circumstances presented unethical. Hunters that do not like or are not used to recoil, get a muzzle break (as much as I hate them, due to the fact I am almost deaf because of them), or add weight to the rifle, but for Pete's sake, get a larger diameter (above 2,400 fps) rifle when you draw that Brown Bear tag, or book that exotic hunt. In the total cost of your hunt, the price of a new rifle is insignificant. Sometimes what you have or have always used, is "short of the mark". Better to go too big/large than to go too little/small. I have a love affair with my 7 Mag., but I know it is not suitable for all animals in N.A., let alone other places. It is, what it is . . . . . . . . . a good, flat shooting Deer (and smaller) cartridge/rifle. Sure it will kill larger animals, but not under all situations encountered while hunting ! If things go 100% right on each hunt, yes, you would have a bit more success. And, 2 holes bleed much better than 1. Additionally, exit holes bleed much better than entrance holes. So if your cartridge will not put 2 holes (1 on each side) in a critter in a quartering away position, you need a bigger, more powerful cartridge. I have seen posts that suggest you can get away with a smaller caliber cartridge when you are on a guided hunt. One question for you if you feel that way . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . what if you and the guide get separated ? What if you are on a Bear hunt and the Bear 'hits' the guide first, knocking his rifle into the bush, or takes him out ? I think you would feel better if you had a large caliber, heavy for caliber bullet to end the story, rather than that snappy little 264 Super Lazer claiming to put all animals feet up at 600 yards. I sure would. JMO Best, Last edited by Phil Lozano; 05-03-2008 at 04:01 PM. | |
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05-03-2008, 06:50 PM
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| I would say a good bolt action 30-06 would do great. They have loads from 55 grain to 180 grains.
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