Question on bore cleaning and owners manual Marlin 917v

tomwoh · 03-23-2008, 12:08 PM

I recently purchased a .17Hmr Marlin 917v, In the owners manual on cleaning page 6 (yes I did read the owners manual) it states "With normal use it is not necessary to clean the bore of your rifle" this seems incorrect to me.. I'm really new to shooting and don't know what to make of that statement. My normal useage will be around 100 to 300 rounds a month. I have a local gun range that is 8 minutes from my house, my limiting factor is the great weather we have here in Washington state :-)

Thanks,

Tom

Tater · 03-23-2008, 12:30 PM

I actually didnt read the manuel, but did buy a cleaning rod and whatnot at the local sport goods store. I ran it through several times before I first shot it then didnt clean it until i realised I had put 10 boxies of ammuntion down the tube. One day I say down and ran a patch through it again and there was hardly a dark spot on the damn thing. I was shocked.

allen1980 · 03-23-2008, 01:59 PM

lol i dont know i just looked in my manual and it says the same.i know alot of my freinds must follow by these standards lol.

Righteous · 03-23-2008, 02:15 PM

its prolly because they will wear out sooner, the faster bullet of the .17 and such will wear the bore out pretty dam fast even after a few thousand rounds

samuel · 03-23-2008, 02:35 PM

It wont hurt to use Hoppys #9 and swabs and be sure to always swab it out dry.All bores are worn out from cleaning more so than shooting and brushes and strong solvents do the most damage,more than shooting.Just get the carbon out and unless it starts shooting off let it go at that.The same is true for any rimfire.One thing,dont carry ammo loose in your pocket.It contaminates the bullet. sam.

hamburgerhelper · 03-24-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwoh

I recently purchased a .17Hmr Marlin 917v, In the owners manual on cleaning page 6 (yes I did read the owners manual) it states "With normal use it is not necessary to clean the bore of your rifle" this seems incorrect to me.. I'm really new to shooting and don't know what to make of that statement. My normal useage will be around 100 to 300 rounds a month. I have a local gun range that is 8 minutes from my house, my limiting factor is the great weather we have here in Washington state :-)

Thanks,

Tom

welcome here to gun and game tom, there are many helpful folk here that will answer all of your gun related questions.....where in wa. st? i am just north of spokane, and we have an outdoor range just north of suncrest......just curious....i have seen a few other folks that have listed wa. st. as home as well.....anyway welcome, and enjoy.

MichaelSmith · 04-19-2008, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwoh

I recently purchased a .17Hmr Marlin 917v, In the owners manual on cleaning page 6 (yes I did read the owners manual) it states "With normal use it is not necessary to clean the bore of your rifle" this seems incorrect to me.. I'm really new to shooting and don't know what to make of that statement.

Interestingly enough, I just purchased a Marlin 917VS yesterday, and after reading the owner's manual last night, I came to the forum this morning to ask this same question!

The responses are a bit surprising. If it's true, as Samuel says, that bores are worn out more from cleaning than shooting, then why clean in the first place? Why do manufacturers recommend it?

Also, has anyone else had the same experience as Tater?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

billy · 04-19-2008, 07:00 AM

follow the manufacturers instructions.
hit it with a bore snake if you must i suppose.......

MichaelSmith · 04-19-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by billy

follow the manufacturers instructions.
hit it with a bore snake if you must i suppose.......

Hey, a gun I don't have to clean is definitely a gun for me! It just surprised me.....

billy · 04-19-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSmith

Hey, a gun I don't have to clean is definitely a gun for me! It just surprised me.....

yeah,
when are they gonna make .308's and 454's and 357's and..........

SwedeSteve · 05-03-2008, 04:14 AM

Welcome to G&G guys! I agree with running a Bore Snake through it at the end of shooting.

DWARREN123 · 05-03-2008, 01:31 PM

A Bore Snake when thru at the range. Don't need to use anything else until the accuracy starts to go away then clean like any centerfire rifle.
More damage done to firearms by improper cleaning than by not cleaning.

s rosenthal · 05-03-2008, 01:55 PM

With everything being said about the Marlin and its cleaning, how about the cleaning of a self-defense revolver? Do a quickie bore clean and nothing else after say 30 rounds at a firing range or use the old bore, swab, brush complete cleaning?

chewy4480 · 05-03-2008, 02:07 PM

I'm in Iraq right now and I have to run at least one cleaning patch a day down the bore of my M 4. If not I would be afraid the barrel would split wide open if I shot it because it gets so much dust in it on missions.

I don't use rods I use a cable type cleaner that comes in a n OTIS cleaning kit. I think it easier on the bore.

If I shoot it a lot I run 3 patches with TM solution down the barrel, to loosen up the carbon, any lead or copper fouling. Then I run a brass brush down it until I feel that I have worked anything in there loose. After that I run more patches with TM solution down it until they come out white. Then I send dry patches down until they come out the last one comes out dry. Then I put some REM oil on a patch to put a coat of lube on the bore. I like REM oil because it drys and leaves a Teflon lubricant film to protect it. Also the CLP the Army gives us stays wet and attracts dust like a magnet.

Another good way to just get dust out of the bore at least on 5.56 is to put a Q-Tip in the end of the barrel and blow it out the other end, 1 or 2 of those and the dust will be gone without messing with any treatment you have done to the bore.

03-23-2008, 12:08 PM	#1
tomwoh Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fall City, WA Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0)	Question on bore cleaning and owners manual Marlin 917v I recently purchased a .17Hmr Marlin 917v, In the owners manual on cleaning page 6 (yes I did read the owners manual) it states "With normal use it is not necessary to clean the bore of your rifle" this seems incorrect to me.. I'm really new to shooting and don't know what to make of that statement. My normal useage will be around 100 to 300 rounds a month. I have a local gun range that is 8 minutes from my house, my limiting factor is the great weather we have here in Washington state :-) Thanks, Tom

04-19-2008, 07:00 AM	#8
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,651 Trader Rating: (0)	follow the manufacturers instructions. hit it with a bore snake if you must i suppose....... __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

05-03-2008, 04:14 AM	#11
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,822 Trader Rating: (0)	Welcome to G&G guys! I agree with running a Bore Snake through it at the end of shooting. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-03-2008, 01:31 PM	#12
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 731 Trader Rating: (0)	A Bore Snake when thru at the range. Don't need to use anything else until the accuracy starts to go away then clean like any centerfire rifle. More damage done to firearms by improper cleaning than by not cleaning. __________________ Have a nice day!

03-23-2008, 12:30 PM	#2
Tater Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tn Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	I actually didnt read the manuel, but did buy a cleaning rod and whatnot at the local sport goods store. I ran it through several times before I first shot it then didnt clean it until i realised I had put 10 boxies of ammuntion down the tube. One day I say down and ran a patch through it again and there was hardly a dark spot on the damn thing. I was shocked.

03-23-2008, 01:59 PM	#3
allen1980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0)	lol i dont know i just looked in my manual and it says the same.i know alot of my freinds must follow by these standards lol.

03-23-2008, 02:15 PM	#4
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214 Trader Rating: (0)	its prolly because they will wear out sooner, the faster bullet of the .17 and such will wear the bore out pretty dam fast even after a few thousand rounds

03-23-2008, 02:35 PM	#5
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	It wont hurt to use Hoppys #9 and swabs and be sure to always swab it out dry.All bores are worn out from cleaning more so than shooting and brushes and strong solvents do the most damage,more than shooting.Just get the carbon out and unless it starts shooting off let it go at that.The same is true for any rimfire.One thing,dont carry ammo loose in your pocket.It contaminates the bullet. sam.

05-03-2008, 01:55 PM	#13
s rosenthal Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0)	With everything being said about the Marlin and its cleaning, how about the cleaning of a self-defense revolver? Do a quickie bore clean and nothing else after say 30 rounds at a firing range or use the old bore, swab, brush complete cleaning?

05-03-2008, 02:07 PM	#14
chewy4480 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maine Posts: 98 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm in Iraq right now and I have to run at least one cleaning patch a day down the bore of my M 4. If not I would be afraid the barrel would split wide open if I shot it because it gets so much dust in it on missions. I don't use rods I use a cable type cleaner that comes in a n OTIS cleaning kit. I think it easier on the bore. If I shoot it a lot I run 3 patches with TM solution down the barrel, to loosen up the carbon, any lead or copper fouling. Then I run a brass brush down it until I feel that I have worked anything in there loose. After that I run more patches with TM solution down it until they come out white. Then I send dry patches down until they come out the last one comes out dry. Then I put some REM oil on a patch to put a coat of lube on the bore. I like REM oil because it drys and leaves a Teflon lubricant film to protect it. Also the CLP the Army gives us stays wet and attracts dust like a magnet. Another good way to just get dust out of the bore at least on 5.56 is to put a Q-Tip in the end of the barrel and blow it out the other end, 1 or 2 of those and the dust will be gone without messing with any treatment you have done to the bore.