jap carcano

jimkim · 04-25-2008, 04:45 PM

Does anyone have an I idea what a Japanese carcano barreled rec. would be worth. I forgot I had the thing.

Rex in OTZ · 04-30-2008, 12:20 PM

Does this come with a bolt?
The time frame this was Mfg the steels should be good
the Value should be 50% of a complete rifle.... less if no sights & bolt

SwedeSteve · 04-30-2008, 12:24 PM

OTZ- Can you tell me more about this rifle?

Rex in OTZ · 04-30-2008, 12:57 PM

I know what was published about the Italian contract to furnish the Japanese with Carcano's
some Forum reports are very favorable accuracy wise as they have been known to out perform the Arisaka type 38's

jimkim · 05-02-2008, 11:28 PM

no bolt. just a barreled rec. I have that and a 99 and two 38's. The guy that taught me used to clean his shop out by giving me things. I also have a Chinese Mauser barreled rec.And other assorted stuff. Have you ever noticed bolts seem to disappear. I think they go to the same place socks go.

SwedeSteve · 05-03-2008, 04:06 AM

Very interesting OTZ !

DANA · 05-04-2008, 05:20 PM

Not worth much without the bolt. I have two. One with bolt and one without bolt. Both are close to unissued. Over all finish better than regular Japanese or Carcanos. They are called type I (the letter I) not 1(one). The regular Carcano bolt won't fit.

DANA

GlockMeister · 05-04-2008, 05:28 PM

Other then the kind/style used to assassinate JFK, I don't think they're all that desirable. I could be wrong though? I've been told they really aren't that accurate. A local dealer has one for sale. I just happened to be there when he took it in on a trade. Just needed a going over and a magazine,which he found. Not sure what he's asking for it, I believe like $250.00 or there abouts? But if it's missing the bolt, I'm thinking not much at all as it can't work without it. DOH!

jimkim · 05-04-2008, 05:37 PM

Damn your smart GM I know that people have never even bought a reciever by itself in the entire history of the world. Duh indeed. It is several parts not a whole rifle. I guess parts are free in FISHville.

GlockMeister · 05-04-2008, 05:45 PM

What, you didn't like my HOMER impression? Or was it the comment about not working without the bolt? Cuz if so, wasn't the only one. lol Guess they're dam smart also.
WOOOHOOOOOOO

jimkim · 05-04-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Other then the kind/style used to assassinate JFK, I don't think they're all that desirable. I could be wrong though? I've been told they really aren't that accurate. A local dealer has one for sale. I just happened to be there when he took it in on a trade. Just needed a going over and a magazine,which he found. Not sure what he's asking for it, I believe like $250.00 or there abouts? But if it's missing the bolt, I'm thinking not much at all as it can't work without it. DOH!

Im thinking not much at all as it cant work without it DOH! I asked a simple question. What's with the DOH!

GlockMeister · 05-04-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimkim

Im thinking not much at all as it cant work without it DOH! I asked a simple question. What's with the DOH!

DUDE, RELAX, IT WAS JUST A HOMER IMPRESSION. DOH! LIKE DOH! NO BOLT! DOH! DOH! DOH!

jimkim · 05-04-2008, 05:56 PM

My apologies to you and your state. I shouldn't get near the computer when I've had a bad day. Just had bad flashback there for a minute. Sometimes this Scot-Irish-German-Native American temper gets the best of me.

GlockMeister · 05-04-2008, 05:59 PM

JIMKIM, can I PM you rather then post here? Nothing big, just think somethings should be said privately is all. Can I PM YOU?

jimkim · 05-04-2008, 06:00 PM

yes go ahead I prob. deserve it.

GlockMeister · 05-04-2008, 06:03 PM

No you don't deserve it. I'm not going to say anything bad or yell at you or chastise you. Just think what I want to say should be private is all. Ok, sending PM.

Rex in OTZ · 05-05-2008, 02:03 PM

I guess just keep an eye out for TypeI parts you never know mabe a bolt will surface.
I had several rifles given to me over time, most all needing bolts or barrels
In NW Alaska the rifles are used as tools and due to the conditions here they get thrashed pretty good, I whad a couple Winchester 88's one in 308 & 243, both had real bad problems not worth putting $ into, a savage 340 in 222Rem that was missing a bolt, several Remingtons and winchesters also missing bolts and showing up at my door step
I guess that's why I store my bolts in my weapons and keep them locked in a steel lock box.

jimkim · 05-05-2008, 07:26 PM

Thanks Rex.

Rex in OTZ · 05-13-2008, 01:29 PM

I was looking thru the Numrich site contemplating parts to tighten up a Carcano and saw they had Carcano/Jap type I parts and they are out of complete bolt assy's but have on hand stripped bolt assy's the rest of the parts one could fabricate over time or scrounge up some place.

jimkim · 05-13-2008, 01:37 PM

hell yeah Rex you da man

04-25-2008, 04:45 PM	#1
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	jap carcano Does anyone have an I idea what a Japanese carcano barreled rec. would be worth. I forgot I had the thing. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

04-30-2008, 12:20 PM	#2
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0)	Value? Does this come with a bolt? The time frame this was Mfg the steels should be good the Value should be 50% of a complete rifle.... less if no sights & bolt

04-30-2008, 12:24 PM	#3
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,128 Trader Rating: (0)	OTZ- Can you tell me more about this rifle? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-30-2008, 12:57 PM	#4
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0)	Italian contract rifle I know what was published about the Italian contract to furnish the Japanese with Carcano's some Forum reports are very favorable accuracy wise as they have been known to out perform the Arisaka type 38's

05-02-2008, 11:28 PM	#5
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	no bolt. just a barreled rec. I have that and a 99 and two 38's. The guy that taught me used to clean his shop out by giving me things. I also have a Chinese Mauser barreled rec.And other assorted stuff. Have you ever noticed bolts seem to disappear. I think they go to the same place socks go. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim Last edited by jimkim; 05-03-2008 at 01:46 PM. Reason: didn't like grammar plum embarrassed

05-03-2008, 04:06 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,128 Trader Rating: (0)	Very interesting OTZ ! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-04-2008, 05:20 PM	#7
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (0)	Not worth much without the bolt. I have two. One with bolt and one without bolt. Both are close to unissued. Over all finish better than regular Japanese or Carcanos. They are called type I (the letter I) not 1(one). The regular Carcano bolt won't fit. DANA

05-04-2008, 05:28 PM	#8
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,937 Trader Rating: (0)	Other then the kind/style used to assassinate JFK, I don't think they're all that desirable. I could be wrong though? I've been told they really aren't that accurate. A local dealer has one for sale. I just happened to be there when he took it in on a trade. Just needed a going over and a magazine,which he found. Not sure what he's asking for it, I believe like $250.00 or there abouts? But if it's missing the bolt, I'm thinking not much at all as it can't work without it. DOH! __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

05-04-2008, 05:37 PM	#9
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	Damn your smart GM I know that people have never even bought a reciever by itself in the entire history of the world. Duh indeed. It is several parts not a whole rifle. I guess parts are free in FISHville. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim Last edited by jimkim; 05-04-2008 at 05:43 PM.

05-04-2008, 05:45 PM	#10
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,937 Trader Rating: (0)	What, you didn't like my HOMER impression? Or was it the comment about not working without the bolt? Cuz if so, wasn't the only one. lol Guess they're dam smart also. WOOOHOOOOOOO __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 05-04-2008 at 05:51 PM.

05-04-2008, 05:56 PM	#13
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	My apologies to you and your state. I shouldn't get near the computer when I've had a bad day. Just had bad flashback there for a minute. Sometimes this Scot-Irish-German-Native American temper gets the best of me. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

05-04-2008, 05:59 PM	#14
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,937 Trader Rating: (0)	JIMKIM, can I PM you rather then post here? Nothing big, just think somethings should be said privately is all. Can I PM YOU? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

05-04-2008, 06:00 PM	#15
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	yes go ahead I prob. deserve it. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

05-04-2008, 06:03 PM	#16
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,937 Trader Rating: (0)	No you don't deserve it. I'm not going to say anything bad or yell at you or chastise you. Just think what I want to say should be private is all. Ok, sending PM. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

05-05-2008, 02:03 PM	#17
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0)	Jap/Carcano type I I guess just keep an eye out for TypeI parts you never know mabe a bolt will surface. I had several rifles given to me over time, most all needing bolts or barrels In NW Alaska the rifles are used as tools and due to the conditions here they get thrashed pretty good, I whad a couple Winchester 88's one in 308 & 243, both had real bad problems not worth putting $ into, a savage 340 in 222Rem that was missing a bolt, several Remingtons and winchesters also missing bolts and showing up at my door step I guess that's why I store my bolts in my weapons and keep them locked in a steel lock box.

05-05-2008, 07:26 PM	#18
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks Rex. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

05-13-2008, 01:29 PM	#19
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (0)	Numrich's stripped Type I bolts in stock! I was looking thru the Numrich site contemplating parts to tighten up a Carcano and saw they had Carcano/Jap type I parts and they are out of complete bolt assy's but have on hand stripped bolt assy's the rest of the parts one could fabricate over time or scrounge up some place.

05-13-2008, 01:37 PM	#20
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastman GA Posts: 1,774 Trader Rating: (0)	hell yeah Rex you da man __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim